bgoff60 Posted August 27, 2021 #1 Share Posted August 27, 2021 What is the current sailing passenger capacity of the Allure OTS? Is it Full capacity or is it going to be a graduated increase? (60%, 75%, 90%...) If so, does anyone know that the steps are and when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 27, 2021 #2 Share Posted August 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, bgoff60 said: What is the current sailing passenger capacity of the Allure OTS? Is it Full capacity or is it going to be a graduated increase? (60%, 75%, 90%...) If so, does anyone know that the steps are and when? Under 2000 this week, so about 30% 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DISFANS3 Posted August 27, 2021 #3 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Hope it stays that way? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 27, 2021 #4 Share Posted August 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, DISFANS3 said: Hope it stays that way? Umm, that would put Royal out of business no doubt. I sailed Allure with 600, ship had no soul. 4000 would still be quite roomy in my opinion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted August 27, 2021 #5 Share Posted August 27, 2021 No one ever found out the REAL number that were on the Mariner this week. It ranged from just under 900 to 1000 but works out to be basically 25% Wondering in the next few months when they attempt to increase capacity if the people will come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted August 27, 2021 #6 Share Posted August 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Umm, that would put Royal out of business no doubt. I sailed Allure with 600, ship had no soul. 4000 would still be quite roomy in my opinion. Mariner this week with under 1000 was wonderful Plenty of soul for me AND bar seats😇 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampurp85 Posted August 27, 2021 #7 Share Posted August 27, 2021 By many reports Oasis class ships need to be at 35% to brake even. I would guess that it will hover at 50% until Dec. I doubt Allure will see more than 2750 pax unless it is a holiday sailing. I believe ships won't be close to capacity until March 2022. 1st allure sailing was supposed to be 2000 pax but with protocols I believe it was barely 1800, the next sailing less. With ports being more restrictive I can see it hovering at 35% until the CSO expires...aka Nov 1st. Fain said each month after restart would see an 10% increase but lots of factors to consider. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 27, 2021 #8 Share Posted August 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, ampurp85 said: By many reports Oasis class ships need to be at 35% to brake even. I would guess that it will hover at 50% until Dec. I doubt Allure will see more than 2750 pax unless it is a holiday sailing. I believe ships won't be close to capacity until March 2022. 1st allure sailing was supposed to be 2000 pax but with protocols I believe it was barely 1800, the next sailing less. With ports being more restrictive I can see it hovering at 35% until the CSO expires...aka Nov 1st. Fain said each month after restart would see an 10% increase but lots of factors to consider. That 35% is without corporate expenses and debt service. Royal is currently mortgaged to the gills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted August 27, 2021 #9 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: Umm, that would put Royal out of business no doubt. I sailed Allure with 600, ship had no soul. 4000 would still be quite roomy in my opinion. Current numbers on board are ~1850. Royal’s announced game plan was to increase capacity by 10% each month. You are right John, there is no soul on this cruise. The energy just doesn’t exist. Edited August 27, 2021 by orville99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 27, 2021 #10 Share Posted August 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, orville99 said: Current numbers on board are ~1850. Royal’s announced game plan was to increase capacity by 10% each month. You are right John, there is no soul on this cruise. The energy just doesn’t exist. Rumor is that WJ dinner comes back when they exceed 50% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted August 27, 2021 #11 Share Posted August 27, 2021 41 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Rumor is that WJ dinner comes back when they exceed 50% We are hoping it is back by the time e board in October. If they stay on plan, they should be between 50-60% capacity by October. BTW, what we were told by the concierge is they had about 300cancellations because of the vaccine mandate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADunk Posted August 27, 2021 #12 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Here my tracker for the Allure since starting. Hoping to be near 2000 for our 9/12 sailing Date Passengers Capacity 8/8 1700 31% 8/15 1520 28% 8/22 1770 33% 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted August 27, 2021 #13 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Umm, that would put Royal out of business no doubt. I sailed Allure with 600, ship had no soul. 4000 would still be quite roomy in my opinion. I would be extremely happy if it was 50 or 60% occupancy, we sail in November 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 27, 2021 #14 Share Posted August 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, ADunk said: Here my tracker for the Allure since starting. Hoping to be near 2000 for our 9/12 sailing Date Passengers Capacity 8/8 1700 31% 8/15 1520 28% 8/22 1770 33% We board October 3rd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgtp Posted August 27, 2021 #15 Share Posted August 27, 2021 more than happy for it to stay 60% and under for all sailings thru Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 27, 2021 #16 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, alexgtp said: more than happy for it to stay 60% and under for all sailings thru Jan. Laura sailed Oasis with around 2800 after Hurricane Mathew in 2017. Said it felt empty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted August 27, 2021 #17 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, John&LaLa said: Laura sailed Oasis with around 2800 after Hurricane Mathew in 2017. Said it felt empty But nice IMHO😇 We were there as you know Did she not like it? Too empty ? Edited August 27, 2021 by molly361 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 27, 2021 #18 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, molly361 said: But nice IMHO😇 We were there as you know Did she not like it? Too empty ? Oh, she liked it. Better than being at condo with no water, power, or AC🤣🤣 And it may have been Irma. We didn't lose power for Matthew Edited August 27, 2021 by John&LaLa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbschultz Posted August 27, 2021 #19 Share Posted August 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Laura sailed Oasis with around 2800 after Hurricane Mathew in 2017. Said it felt empty Sounds perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 27, 2021 #20 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, rbschultz said: Sounds perfect. That may not qualify for WJ dinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk04 Posted August 27, 2021 #21 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Since we are blue-sky-ing here, what do you think capacity percentage will be on Oasis class in December? Trying to treat my Dad to a cruise on Oasis at the beginning of December Edited August 27, 2021 by jk04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 27, 2021 #22 Share Posted August 27, 2021 26 minutes ago, jk04 said: Since we are blue-sky-ing here, what do you think capacity percentage will be on Oasis class in December? Trying to treat my Dad to a cruise on Oasis at the beginning of December 50 - 60 percent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk04 Posted August 27, 2021 #23 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: 50 - 60 percent Hopefully that is enough to have all the venues open and it doesn't feel quite like a ghost town but also some elbow room. OP, I hope you get a cruise capacity you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mac_tlc Posted August 27, 2021 #24 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Was about 1510 last week. Plenty of soul for me. mac_tlc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joanne59 Posted August 28, 2021 #25 Share Posted August 28, 2021 We board next Sunday, and I’m perfectly fine with 2000 passengers, if it reaches that level. Our weekend on Freedom last month, was just perfect for us. Don’t mind the extra attention from the staff, and less crowding considering the COVID was very nice. Was onboard Allure in 2015 for 2 nights, so really looking forward to a full week with less passengers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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