howiefrommd Posted December 30, 2021 #1 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just received this. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-30/cdc-says-avoid-cruise-travel-regardless-of-vaccination-status-kxt8rvd8?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google Does anyone know how this affects travel insurance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong1 Posted December 30, 2021 #2 Share Posted December 30, 2021 And yet, flying on airplanes (with masks...just like we're now doing on Regent) I guess, is "perfectly safe"?? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy46 Posted December 30, 2021 #3 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I see you live in Surprise...have you met our dear friends from Dryden? Withholding name since this is a public forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseluv Posted December 30, 2021 #4 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) The CDC setting the table to shut down cruising again Edited December 30, 2021 by cruiseluv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wristband Posted December 30, 2021 #5 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Reuters: "The CDC raised its COVID-19 travel health notice level for cruise ships to four - its highest warning level - from three, citing reports of COVID-19 outbreaks on cruises. "(CDC) said people should avoid traveling on cruise ships regardless of their vaccination status, as daily COVID-19 cases in the country climb to record highs..." Hopefully, Regent will asap revise its no refund policy for early 2023 cruises. It is a personal decision to willingly assume the risk. For me, as Sam Goldwyn famously said, "INCLUDE ME OUT!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy46 Posted December 30, 2021 #6 Share Posted December 30, 2021 What do you all think Regent will do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlevin Posted December 30, 2021 #7 Share Posted December 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, crispy46 said: What do you all think Regent will do? Absolutely nothing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FengShui@Sea Posted December 30, 2021 #8 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) The CDC is acting like Chicken Little (“The sky is falling!”). I think they just come out with these things to cover their own butts. I feel safer cruising than going to my local grocery store. We are on the Oceania Riviera right now and while we have had positive cases Oceania’s response has been immediate and responsible. Edited December 30, 2021 by FengShui@Sea 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseluv Posted December 30, 2021 #9 Share Posted December 30, 2021 The cruise companies should contact the airline companies and find out how they’re able to influence the CDC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellaggio Cruisers Posted December 30, 2021 #10 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, cruiseluv said: The cruise companies should contact the airline companies and find out how they’re able to influence the CDC. How true…. Why do the airlines have so much power over the CDC? Their letter was responsible for the lowering of number of days from 10 to 5 for isolation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseluv Posted December 30, 2021 #11 Share Posted December 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bellaggio Cruisers said: How true…. Why do the airlines have so much power over the CDC? Their letter was responsible for the lowering of number of days from 10 to 5 for isolation. Yep, from the CEO of Delta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiefrommd Posted December 30, 2021 Author #12 Share Posted December 30, 2021 In due respect, in getting back to my original question, does anyone have any idea what happens to travel insurance with an edict like this? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlevin Posted December 30, 2021 #13 Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, howiefrommd said: In due respect, in getting back to my original question, does anyone have any idea what happens to travel insurance with an edict like this? Thanks Absolutely no impact, not a justification for canceling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiefrommd Posted December 30, 2021 Author #14 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, mrlevin said: Absolutely no impact, not a justification for canceling. Thanks. I was just concerned that if I am on a cruise and something was to happen (i.e. medically) that I would have coverage. Never a dull moment. Thanks and Have a Happy and Healthy New Year. Howie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy The Wanderer Posted December 30, 2021 #15 Share Posted December 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, FengShui@Sea said: The CDC is acting like Chicken Little (“The sky is falling!”). I think they just come out with these things to cover their own butts. I feel safer cruising than going to my local grocery store. We are on the Oceania Riviera right now and while we have had positive cases Oceania’s response has been immediate and responsible. I'm glad you're feeling safe and having a good cruise. But think about being one of those pa who tested positive? That would not be a good experience, no matter how good Oceania's response was. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolebludger Posted December 30, 2021 #16 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I’m not sure that the CDC is wrong to recommend against cruising at this time, given that there are 90 cruise ships now sailing with Covid aboard. But the CDC has been wrong from the start in not requiring distancing on airlines. IMHO, distancing is the most overlooked and perhaps the most important prevention tool. And there is far, far better distancing on a Regent ship than on an airliner, even in business/first class. Of course, with airlines cancelling 1000 flights per day since December 23, we are “distancing” ourselves from airlines! We wouldn’t fly now I’d we were paid to do so. And the CDC is overlooking the greater distancing on ships in Regent’s class when compared to the packed-in lines and crowds on so-called mass market and budget lines. We quit considering them two decades before anybody even heard of Covid. The CDC is treating Regent and the cattle car lines as though they were the same, and they aren’t. Not even close. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mariners Posted December 30, 2021 #17 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I realize that insurance coverage is different for people living in different countries. As well, insurance policies within countries have different disclaimers and coverage. We live in Canada, and our insurance coverage will, currently, cover medical insurance for COVID under specific circumstances. However, we are not eligible for trip cancellation costs or trip interruption costs. Within the past few weeks, insurance coverage has changed as rapidly as the restrictions put in place, as well as the guidelines provided by the government (federal and provincial). I would be reading any insurance policy very carefully, and getting updated information in writing. Two of the policies we use no longer cover anything related to COVID. Of course, if you self insure, that's a whole different ball game. My heart goes out to all of you who will be sailing soon as you try to navigate these new waters. Those curve balls just keep on coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giustot Posted December 30, 2021 #18 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Here's why I think this is important. "Between Nov. 30 and Dec. 14, cruise ships operating in U.S. waters reported 162 cases of COVID-19 to the CDC. Between Dec. 15 and Dec. 29, cruise ships sailing in U.S. waters reported 5,013 COVID-19 cases to the CDC. That's nearly 31 times the number of cases reported in the first two weeks of December, the CDC said." As for the airplane comparison, experts have been saying since this began that flying for a couple of hours on a plane is not the same a living on a cruise ship for a week or two. Tom. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellaggio Cruisers Posted December 30, 2021 #19 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, wristband said: Reuters: "The CDC raised its COVID-19 travel health notice level for cruise ships to four - its highest warning level - from three, citing reports of COVID-19 outbreaks on cruises. "(CDC) said people should avoid traveling on cruise ships regardless of their vaccination status, as daily COVID-19 cases in the country climb to record highs..." Hopefully, Regent will asap revise its no refund policy for early 2023 cruises. It is a personal decision to willingly assume the risk. For me, as Sam Goldwyn famously said, "INCLUDE ME OUT!" What are you referring to… no refund policy for early 2023 cruises. Please explain. Edited December 30, 2021 by Bellaggio Cruisers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonedaddy Posted December 30, 2021 #20 Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 hours ago, pingpong1 said: And yet, flying on airplanes (with masks...just like we're now doing on Regent) I guess, is "perfectly safe"?? or malls or bball games or theaters and the list goes on. This is not ebola, denge malaria .... let's move along. omicron is basically a bad cold. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wristband Posted December 30, 2021 #21 Share Posted December 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, Bellaggio Cruisers said: What are you referring to… no refund policy for early 3023 cruises. Please explain. Typo - should be evident its "early 2022." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellaggio Cruisers Posted December 30, 2021 #22 Share Posted December 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, wristband said: Typo - should be evident its "early 2022." Got it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio007 Posted December 30, 2021 #23 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, giustot said: Here's why I think this is important. "Between Nov. 30 and Dec. 14, cruise ships operating in U.S. waters reported 162 cases of COVID-19 to the CDC. Between Dec. 15 and Dec. 29, cruise ships sailing in U.S. waters reported 5,013 COVID-19 cases to the CDC. That's nearly 31 times the number of cases reported in the first two weeks of December, the CDC said." As for the airplane comparison, experts have been saying since this began that flying for a couple of hours on a plane is not the same a living on a cruise ship for a week or two. Tom. Thanks for this information. Where can I find the quoted reference? I'm interested in learning how they are measuring this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunprince Posted December 31, 2021 #24 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, giustot said: Between Nov. 30 and Dec. 14, cruise ships operating in U.S. waters reported 162 cases of COVID-19 to the CDC. Between Dec. 15 and Dec. 29, cruise ships sailing in U.S. waters reported 5,013 COVID-19 cases to the CDC. That's nearly 31 times the number of cases reported in the first two weeks of December, the CDC said." Thank you for posting this….excellent context as to how Covid is evolving and it’s impact on cruising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flossie009 Posted December 31, 2021 #25 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, giustot said: That's nearly 31 times the number of cases reported in the first two weeks of December, the CDC said But no context given as to: the number of passengers & crew sailing during the respective periods the severity of the cases reported whether those testing positive had any symptoms number of passengers or crew requiring hospitalisation the outcome of the “CDC investigations” a comparison between infection rates on cruise ships and those on land cruise ship compliance with CDC rules & guidelines CDCs opinion of cruise line health &safety protocols Edited December 31, 2021 by flossie009 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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