Rare MMDown Under Posted November 21, 2022 #1 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Following a Supreme Court decision, NZ Cabinet will draft legislation to lower the voting age to 16. I wonder if this will have flow on ramifications in the future? (Argentina, Austria, Brazil, Malta and Scotland already allow voting at 16.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchhalm Posted November 21, 2022 #2 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Are you on the right (or left) chat group here? We are talking about ⚓⛵🚣♂️🛶🛳⛴🚢 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisers47 Posted November 21, 2022 #3 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I was interested in MMDownUnder’s news. you don’t have to read it!!🥶 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted November 21, 2022 #4 Share Posted November 21, 2022 My big question is what other ages will follow? Age to drink Age to face adult criminal charges Age to marry Age to go to War then how long till they want to lower it to 14, 12, etc, where will it end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lyndarra Posted November 21, 2022 #5 Share Posted November 21, 2022 How would this affect cruising? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted November 21, 2022 Author #6 Share Posted November 21, 2022 27 minutes ago, lyndarra said: How would this affect cruising? I was thinking the age they can share a cabin with a younger sibling in lieu of one parent in each. Drinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisers47 Posted November 21, 2022 #7 Share Posted November 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, MMDown Under said: I was thinking the age they can share a cabin with a younger sibling in lieu of one parent in each. Drinking? Don’t think it could happen in OZ as voting is compulsory and how could you fine a 16 year old for not voting ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted November 21, 2022 #8 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Cruisers47 said: Don’t think it could happen in OZ as voting is compulsory and how could you fine a 16 year old for not voting ! They fine for all sorts of other things, so can’t see the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lyndarra Posted November 21, 2022 #9 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Heard a report on radio this morning. It appears that the voting age is in conflict with NZ bill of rights (?) that citizens over age 16 cannot by discriminated against by age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbenjo Posted November 21, 2022 #10 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Cruisers47 said: Don’t think it could happen in OZ as voting is compulsory and how could you fine a 16 year old for not voting ! Take their mobile phones off them for twelve months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Over from NZ Posted November 21, 2022 #11 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Doesn't matter - it ain't going to happen. Need a 75%+ majority to change electoral laws in NZ and the opposition have already said they won't support it. It's a dead-duck. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bretts173 Posted November 22, 2022 #12 Share Posted November 22, 2022 And should change the laws to stop over a certain age having to vote while there at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell21 Posted November 22, 2022 #13 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, bretts173 said: And should change the laws to stop over a certain age having to vote while there at it. Careful! Edited November 22, 2022 by Russell21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bretts173 Posted November 22, 2022 #14 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Russell21 said: Careful! Wrong audience? 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted November 22, 2022 #15 Share Posted November 22, 2022 8 hours ago, lyndarra said: How would this affect cruising? 18yo Captains?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elorac123 Posted November 22, 2022 #16 Share Posted November 22, 2022 6 hours ago, bretts173 said: And should change the laws to stop over a certain age having to vote while there at it. Compulsory voting is madness for all ages, many just have names crossed off to avoid a fine others write obscenities on the voting papers,high time to revamp it. Cheers Carole 😤😤😤😤 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffroK Posted November 23, 2022 #17 Share Posted November 23, 2022 16 yo drinking would only happen while in NZ waters or in NZ ports, rest of the time it would be local rules (Nothing in Qatar) or ship rules while on the high seas. Or cruise on a line that doesnt impress 16-17 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lyndarra Posted November 23, 2022 #18 Share Posted November 23, 2022 13 hours ago, JeffroK said: 16 yo drinking would only happen while in NZ waters or in NZ ports, rest of the time it would be local rules (Nothing in Qatar) or ship rules while on the high seas. Or cruise on a line that doesnt impress 16-17 year olds. Local rules apply. 16 year old NZs are permitted alcohol under supervision of parents or adults. Can any Kiwis confirm this? Not a good thing on a cruise, too many dangers for kids with immature brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted November 24, 2022 #19 Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 11/22/2022 at 8:44 AM, Cruisers47 said: Don’t think it could happen in OZ as voting is compulsory and how could you fine a 16 year old for not voting ! They fine for all sorts of other things, so can’t see the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted November 24, 2022 #20 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Why do old posts pop up and repeat themselves at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted November 24, 2022 #21 Share Posted November 24, 2022 We often hear what people say and say “They get a vote and Maxy doesn’t?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Over from NZ Posted November 24, 2022 #22 Share Posted November 24, 2022 10 hours ago, lyndarra said: Local rules apply. 16 year old NZs are permitted alcohol under supervision of parents or adults. Can any Kiwis confirm this? Not a good thing on a cruise, too many dangers for kids with immature brains. There's no legal drinking age. There's a minimum legal age to purchase alcohol of 18 (and to enter most licensed premises). The voting age isn't going to change.. nor is there any intent to change the legal age to purchase alcohol or enter licensed premises. You've nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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