Old Fart Cruisers Posted July 20, 2023 #1 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) It looks like nearly all of citizens of most countries in North and South America will be required to have a Visa for travel to the EU starting in 2024. I sure some people on this site will have more information about this change. Click for more information: Who Needs ETIAS? Edited July 20, 2023 by Old Fart Cruisers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallasm Posted July 20, 2023 #2 Share Posted July 20, 2023 It is actually not a replacement for the Schengen Visa but a Travel Authorization for all nationalities who doesn’t need a visa today. When is not yet known (ETIAS is currently not in operation) - it has been postponed several times. Check when it becomes a requirement. This is the official web: https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias_en 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach1213 Posted July 20, 2023 #3 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Nope, not a visa. In fact, ETIAS will (whenever it actually start) be quite the opposite...an authorization for people who are visa-exempt. Visas can be complicated and often expensive to get, and ETIAS will be neither. Visas also often live in the passport as a sticker, and ETIAS will not be that. For some places, like Australia, US citizens have had to do it for many years...it's incredibly simple and takes less than a couple of minutes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted July 20, 2023 #4 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Yep.Notavisa. And no start date yet. It's been postponed annually for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccio Posted July 21, 2023 #5 Share Posted July 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Zach1213 said: For some places, like Australia, US citizens have had to do it for many years...it's incredibly simple and takes less than a couple of minutes. I can attest to that for both Australia and New Zealand. They were also relatively inexpensive compared to visas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB999 Posted July 21, 2023 #6 Share Posted July 21, 2023 To add, the US has been requiring this of European visitors for nearly 15 years. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new_cruiser Posted July 21, 2023 #7 Share Posted July 21, 2023 10 hours ago, Zach1213 said: Nope, not a visa. In fact, ETIAS will (whenever it actually start) be quite the opposite...an authorization for people who are visa-exempt. Visas can be complicated and often expensive to get, and ETIAS will be neither. Visas also often live in the passport as a sticker, and ETIAS will not be that. For some places, like Australia, US citizens have had to do it for many years...it's incredibly simple and takes less than a couple of minutes. It took me more than a couple of minutes button probably less than 15 minutes to submit each one. Each country had a phone app to do the submission you have to download that. The app says processing is usually complete within 72 hours. The acceptance emails came within way less than 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bull Posted July 21, 2023 #8 Share Posted July 21, 2023 13 hours ago, Zach1213 said: Nope, not a visa. In fact, ETIAS will (whenever it actually start) be quite the opposite...an authorization for people who are visa-exempt. Visas can be complicated and often expensive to get, and ETIAS will be neither. Visas also often live in the passport as a sticker, and ETIAS will not be that. For some places, like Australia, US citizens have had to do it for many years...it's incredibly simple and takes less than a couple of minutes. Yes, ETIAS is a visa-waiver, and is being introduced as a new requirement for visitors who currently don't need a pukka visa. The current start date is sometime next year - it has already been pushed back twice, Visitors who need a visa will continue to need one. ETIAS will mirror the ESTA that Europeans & others who don't need a pukka visa have had to complete for about the last 12 (?) years to enter the USA. Done on-line, very simple, a small admin fee. You' can print off your ETIAS to put with your passport, altho in theory (and usually in practice) your ETIAS will show up on your immigration status when your API (Advance Passenger Information) is forwarded to your destination country and when you present your passport at Immigration Control. Unlike the vast majority of ESTA applications, my first ESTA took a couple of weeks to come thro' - probably because of the need to check the similarity of my name to that of an undesirable. JB 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted July 21, 2023 #9 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I'm a lot confused by this possible new requirement for our British Isles cruise for July 2024. Any idea what we'll need...help please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallasm Posted July 21, 2023 #10 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Ashland said: I'm a lot confused by this possible new requirement for our British Isles cruise for July 2024. British Isles is not part of Schengen. Nor Ireland. Edited July 21, 2023 by hallasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted July 21, 2023 #11 Share Posted July 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ashland said: I'm a lot confused by this possible new requirement for our British Isles cruise for July 2024. Any idea what we'll need...help please. There is a list of Countries that will require the ETIAS https://travel-europe.europa.eu/system/files/2022-11/These 30 European countries require ETIAS_en.pdf If you are stopping at any of those then you will need to apply for the ETIAS (providing it is available when you are travelling) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bull Posted July 21, 2023 #12 Share Posted July 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, Ashland said: I'm a lot confused by this possible new requirement for our British Isles cruise for July 2024. Any idea what we'll need...help please. The only thing you'll need as well as your passport will be an ETIAS - if your cruise includes any French or Belgian etc ports (Le Havre is frequently included in British Isles cruises), and if ETIAS has been introduced by the time of your cruise. If you do need an ETIAS it'll cost you ten minutes to apply on-line and a fee of a few Euros. The Channel Islands (Guernsey is often included in those cruises) are part of Great Britain & Northern Ireland, and altho' the Republic of Ireland is in the EC it won't be part of the ETIAS scheme because its border security is part of a Common Travel Area with Great Britain.. Great Britain and the Republic of Ireland are formulating their own "visa waiver" scheme, similar to America's ESTA and the EU's proposed ETIAS, but that is a few years off yet. JB 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanger727 Posted July 21, 2023 #13 Share Posted July 21, 2023 On 7/20/2023 at 2:49 PM, Zach1213 said: Nope, not a visa. In fact, ETIAS will (whenever it actually start) be quite the opposite...an authorization for people who are visa-exempt. Visas can be complicated and often expensive to get, and ETIAS will be neither. Visas also often live in the passport as a sticker, and ETIAS will not be that. For some places, like Australia, US citizens have had to do it for many years...it's incredibly simple and takes less than a couple of minutes. Yes, but again, for people who are visa-exempt - doing nothing is the easiest thing. Up until now US citizens didn't have to do any more than buy a plane ticket to go to most places in Europe. So it is a change and will be somewhat more difficult. Yes, certainly easier than a visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teechur Posted July 21, 2023 #14 Share Posted July 21, 2023 A new entry application and fee will be required for visitors to Schengen countries next year. Called an ETIAS instead of a VISA, you will need one to go there. The initial fee is only $8.00, but we all know what happens to low "initial" fees. 😠 New requirements to travel to Europe will be a ‘pain’ for travelers in 2024: Lee Abbamonte | Watch (msn.com) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jwattle Posted July 21, 2023 #15 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Have you ever been to Australia, especially if your flight had a layover in New Zealand? It would appear that Europe is catching up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoozecrooze Posted July 21, 2023 #16 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I know it seems really unkind, but countries in the US's Visa Waiver Program (such as the UK, Italy, Australia, Singapore, etc) all have had to pay $21 for the US's ESTA. It's literally all about playing catch up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers36 Posted July 21, 2023 #17 Share Posted July 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, Teechur said: A new entry application and fee will be required for visitors to Schengen countries next year. Called an ETIAS instead of a VISA, you will need one to go there. The initial fee is only $8.00, but we all know what happens to low "initial" fees. 😠 New requirements to travel to Europe will be a ‘pain’ for travelers in 2024: Lee Abbamonte | Watch (msn.com) Affects Canada as well. The fee is actually 7 EUR and the ETIAS registration is good for 3 years. Seems like a minor process to do online and a very di minimus amount all things considered. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted July 21, 2023 #18 Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 hours ago, LHT28 said: There is a list of Countries that will require the ETIAS https://travel-europe.europa.eu/system/files/2022-11/These 30 European countries require ETIAS_en.pdf If you are stopping at any of those then you will need to apply for the ETIAS (providing it is available when you are travelling) Fingers crossed we'll sail from Amsterdam July 2024. Dover, Inverness, Lerwick, Glasgow, Belfast, Holyhead, Liverpool, Appreciate your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted July 21, 2023 #19 Share Posted July 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ashland said: Fingers crossed we'll sail from Amsterdam July 2024. Dover, Inverness, Lerwick, Glasgow, Belfast, Holyhead, Liverpool, Appreciate your help. Then you will need the ETIAS if it has been rolled out by then Just keep checking the site next year As others have posted it has been delayed for several years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted July 21, 2023 #20 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, LHT28 said: Then you will need the ETIAS if it has been rolled out by then Just keep checking the site next year As others have posted it has been delayed for several years Correct, they will need it for Amsterdam in the Netherlands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPacificbound Posted July 21, 2023 #21 Share Posted July 21, 2023 6 hours ago, LHT28 said: There is a list of Countries that will require the ETIAS https://travel-europe.europa.eu/system/files/2022-11/These 30 European countries require ETIAS_en.pdf If you are stopping at any of those then you will need to apply for the ETIAS (providing it is available when you are travelling) Thank you for the link I printed that out and put it with my 2024 cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted July 22, 2023 #22 Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) Before the date was extended to 2024, we thought this would apply to us for our Prima cruise form London (Southampton) to Iceland including the Netherlands, Belgium (which has now been cancelled due to low tides), and Norway. I called our TA and he thought it would be taken care of with the airfare as that its how it is presently done with Australia.. I then noted we would be flying to the UK which is not part of the EU. He said he'd have to think about that. Edited July 22, 2023 by ontheweb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseryyc Posted July 22, 2023 #23 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Visitors from Europe coming to the US have had to get an ETSA for years now; its nothing new to the rest of the world. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallasm Posted July 22, 2023 #24 Share Posted July 22, 2023 6 hours ago, ontheweb said: I called our TA and he thought it would be taken care of When flying to the UK, the airline will not worry about ETIAS (once required for travel). The actual registration of the ETIAS will be quite simple, but possible to let a TA do the registration on your behalf. I believe TA’s will know once ETIAS required for travel to the Schengen area. When checking in on a cruise ship visiting Schengen Area , they will check ETIAS in the same way as they have to check visas for travelers where a Schengen visa is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fart Cruisers Posted July 22, 2023 Author #25 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Next year we will be on a B2B to England, Belgium, Holland, the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Scotland, Ireland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Will we have to apply for ETIAS for each country, or will it be one form where you check of what countries and dates you are visiting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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