Ken at the beach Posted November 8, 2023 #1 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) Royal has changed the benefits for Sky Junior Suites for all but Icon, Utopia and Spectrum. Complimentary Wi-Fi is no longer included. https://www.royalcaribbeanincentives.com/ship/odyssey-of-the-seas/accommodations/ https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-rooms/royal-suite-class Edited November 8, 2023 by Ourusualbeach 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marci22 Posted November 8, 2023 #2 Share Posted November 8, 2023 wow, cheapskates 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted November 8, 2023 #3 Share Posted November 8, 2023 They need to get rid of junior suites. Call them something else since these are not suites. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OCSC Mike Posted November 8, 2023 #4 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Royal has changed the benefits for Sky Junior Suites for all but Icon, Utopia and Spectrum. Complimentary Wi-Fi is no longer included. Won't affect me but that's pretty weak. Edited November 8, 2023 by OCSC Mike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Fan 78 Posted November 8, 2023 #5 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) Removing because I misread initial post. Thanks. Edited November 8, 2023 by UK Fan 78 Removing because I misread initial post. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Newcruiser215 Posted November 8, 2023 #6 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Glad I'm in a Sky Junior suite on Icon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted November 8, 2023 #7 Share Posted November 8, 2023 What other ships, other than Icon, Utopia and Spectrum, have Sky Junior Suites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted November 8, 2023 Author #8 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, twangster said: What other ships, other than Icon, Utopia and Spectrum, have Sky Junior Suites? All of Oasis and Quantum class (they each now have 8 per ship) that start with sailings released for May 1, 2025 and beyond (new sailings) Announced a couple weeks ago with the recategorization of a few categories. Edited November 8, 2023 by Ourusualbeach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted November 8, 2023 #9 Share Posted November 8, 2023 It is disappointing to see Royal further mixing up suite benefits across the fleet. The matrix of "if this ship then these suite benefits, if that ship then those suite benefits" was already inconsistent and confusing. Now, within Oasis and Quantum class it isn't consistent. This is a move in the wrong direction. 22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted November 8, 2023 Author #10 Share Posted November 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, twangster said: It is disappointing to see Royal further mixing up suite benefits across the fleet. The matrix of "if this ship then these suite benefits, if that ship then those suite benefits" was already inconsistent and confusing. Now, within Oasis and Quantum class it isn't consistent. This is a move in the wrong direction. Very disappointing, I wrote a few letters this morning. 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuryan Posted November 8, 2023 #11 Share Posted November 8, 2023 49 minutes ago, twangster said: Now, within Oasis and Quantum class it isn't consistent. This is a move in the wrong direction. Only Spectrum makes sense with this, being in a separate market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmom Posted November 8, 2023 #12 Share Posted November 8, 2023 So it's ok to add more people to the suite lounge/happy hour and Coastal Kitchen, but not ok to toss in the wifi? That's pretty messed up, at least in my opinion. I still think it's wrong that they don't include wifi with all full suites across the fleet. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShillyShally Posted November 8, 2023 #13 Share Posted November 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, rockmom said: So it's ok to add more people to the suite lounge/happy hour and Coastal Kitchen, but not ok to toss in the wifi? That's pretty messed up, at least in my opinion. I still think it's wrong that they don't include wifi with all full suites across the fleet. Agreed, especially on ships that don't have CK and a JS doesn't give you suite lounge access. The cost even on those ships between balcony and JS is significant enough wifi wouldn't break the bank at all. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmom Posted November 8, 2023 #14 Share Posted November 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, ShillyShally said: Agreed, especially on ships that don't have CK and a JS doesn't give you suite lounge access. The cost even on those ships between balcony and JS is significant enough wifi wouldn't break the bank at all. yep, irks me that if you're in a Grand Suite or Owners suite on, let's say, Navigator or Freedom, you need to purchase wifi. The suites on those ships are not 'cheap' by any means. Toss in the Wifi, Jason Liberty....... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-leg5 Posted November 8, 2023 #15 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Ourusualbeach said: All of Oasis and Quantum class (they each now have 8 per ship) that start with sailings released for May 1, 2025 and beyond (new sailings) Announced a couple weeks ago with the recategorization of a few categories. Have some people already booked these suites expecting certain benefits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted November 8, 2023 Author #16 Share Posted November 8, 2023 48 minutes ago, c-leg5 said: Have some people already booked these suites expecting certain benefits? I'm sure they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted November 8, 2023 #17 Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 hours ago, twangster said: It is disappointing to see Royal further mixing up suite benefits across the fleet. The matrix of "if this ship then these suite benefits, if that ship then those suite benefits" was already inconsistent and confusing. Now, within Oasis and Quantum class it isn't consistent. This is a move in the wrong direction. Agree. First, make suite benefits consistent fleet wide and either make a JS as true suite or change the name removing the word “suite”. I still think RCI could carve out part of the MDR on each ship to add CK like Celebrity did with Luminae. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted November 8, 2023 #18 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, rockmom said: So it's ok to add more people to the suite lounge/happy hour and Coastal Kitchen, but not ok to toss in the wifi? That's pretty messed up, at least in my opinion. I still think it's wrong that they don't include wifi with all full suites across the fleet. Agree....Suites across the fleet should include Voom Surf-n-Stream. A cheap shot by RCI...but not surprised. We stay in OS and I've always thought the WiFi should be included and NOT just based on the particular ship I'm sailing on !!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted November 8, 2023 #19 Share Posted November 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ashland said: Agree....Suites across the fleet should include Voom Surf-n-Stream. A cheap shot by RCI...but not surprised. We stay in OS and I've always thought the WiFi should be included and NOT just based on the particular ship I'm sailing on !!! This is why we seldom book above a JS unless it’s a ship that has full suite benefits. Just not worth it. I usually put in a low bid for RU and sometimes we get it. If not, a JS works fine. Celebrity recently made a few changes on the Sky suite but they still receive entrance to Luminae, Premium Wi-Fi, Premium Drink package and the Retreat. Sky suites lost butler service, OBC and gratuities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeOcean Posted November 8, 2023 #20 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Silly nickel & dimeing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted November 8, 2023 #21 Share Posted November 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, cruisingator2 said: This is why we seldom book above a JS unless it’s a ship that has full suite benefits. Just not worth it. I usually put in a low bid for RU and sometimes we get it. If not, a JS works fine. Celebrity recently made a few changes on the Sky suite but they still receive entrance to Luminae, Premium Wi-Fi, Premium Drink package and the Retreat. Sky suites lost butler service, OBC and gratuities. The only benefit we miss is the wifi. Other than that for us the other benefits we have no interest in. We book for the cabin accommodations. Dining... after many years we've become WJ's only now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bretts173 Posted November 8, 2023 #22 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Sorry I'm struggling to see what has been taken away here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted November 8, 2023 #23 Share Posted November 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, bretts173 said: Sorry I'm struggling to see what has been taken away here. Answer: Second sentence of the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeOcean Posted November 8, 2023 #24 Share Posted November 8, 2023 55 minutes ago, bretts173 said: Sorry I'm struggling to see what has been taken away here. Nothing, technically, since “Sky Junior Suites” is a brand new cabin category, but you’re going to pay a premium for Sky class and it doesn’t include the same amenities. And ridiculously it’s the one that probably has the least overhead for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted November 8, 2023 #25 Share Posted November 8, 2023 7 hours ago, rockmom said: yep, irks me that if you're in a Grand Suite or Owners suite on, let's say, Navigator or Freedom, you need to purchase wifi. The suites on those ships are not 'cheap' by any means. Toss in the Wifi, Jason Liberty....... This, exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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