39august Posted December 8, 2023 #1 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Since Mer Soleil is no longer available by the glass, what other chards are available by the glass please? I know Elegance is. But that's not a premium wine to me. Is Villa Maria sauvignon still on premium? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare asnaleah Posted December 8, 2023 #2 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Onboard Eclipse now. Both Villa Maria Sauvignon Blanc and Steele Chardonnay are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39august Posted December 8, 2023 Author #3 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Thanks. Are you familiar with Steele Chard? I don't think I've every heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare asnaleah Posted December 8, 2023 #4 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I had it last night with dinner. It’s French, not oaky, food friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare markeb Posted December 8, 2023 #5 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Steel Chardonnay is as stated French. No oak, no butter. Perfect for food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39august Posted December 8, 2023 Author #6 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I'm more interested in Chard for sipping without food. I looked up Steele and on line it shows as a California Sonoma wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgabriel Posted December 8, 2023 #7 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) @39august Steel without the e - Steel Chardonnay is a Louis Jadot wine. I absolutely detest oaky Chardonnays and given my druthers, I'd drink a white Burgundy or a nice Chablis. Steel Chardonnay is always my choice onboard since I don't want to spend a bunch of money buying bottles of Chablis. They don't always have it in every restaurant. Edited December 8, 2023 by mrgabriel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted December 8, 2023 #8 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Current premium and classic wine by the glass menus Sillhouette December 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare markeb Posted December 8, 2023 #9 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 hours ago, 39august said: I'm more interested in Chard for sipping without food. I looked up Steele and on line it shows as a California Sonoma wine. No. French. And it’s Steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39august Posted December 8, 2023 Author #10 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Thanks for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazerboy Posted December 9, 2023 #11 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) Steele with an extra "e" was a Lake County winery founded by Jed Steele, former wine maker(many years ago) at Kendall Jackson. It's since been sold to Clay Shannon of Shannon Ridge. It was a decent Wednesday night wine. I think, given the list, I'll see if the Reserve Pinot from Kendall Jackson is drinkable, and stick with the Louis Jadot for white. O.k., and I might have to try the Mlabec! 🤣 Edited December 9, 2023 by Blazerboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39august Posted December 9, 2023 Author #12 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Any comments on the Louis Jadot chardonnay on the premium menu? In past years I found that the French chards were not my cup of tea, so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare markeb Posted December 9, 2023 #13 Share Posted December 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, 39august said: Any comments on the Louis Jadot chardonnay on the premium menu? In past years I found that the French chards were not my cup of tea, so to speak. That’s the Steel. It tastes wonderful. Crisp, clean, some nice fruit notes. It does not taste like a stick of butter left in a wooden churn. Which is a good thing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marieps Posted December 9, 2023 #14 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I had Steel from the PAL pkg on Silhouette's TA and it was lovely at dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wineoclock Posted December 9, 2023 #15 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Louis Jadot is perfectly good Chardonnay. I don’t drink Californian wines as just don’t find them very good. Can’t compare them to French or Italian wines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrgabriel Posted December 9, 2023 #16 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, 39august said: Any comments on the Louis Jadot chardonnay on the premium menu? In past years I found that the French chards were not my cup of tea, so to speak. Is there something in particular that you don’t like about French Chardonnay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39august Posted December 9, 2023 Author #17 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Haven't actually tried a French chard in a few years, but when I did, they seemed thin to me. No body. But anyway, thanks for all the good comments on Steel, aka Louis Jadot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CruiseRQA Posted December 9, 2023 #18 Share Posted December 9, 2023 53 minutes ago, wineoclock said: I don’t drink Californian wines as just don’t find them very good. So the whole category of California wines just aren't very good? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wineoclock Posted December 9, 2023 #19 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Not the ones I’ve tried. I thought the Mer soleil was dreadful! I did blind wine tasting at berry brothers and I only liked the old world wines - I think it says my palate isn’t as varied as I’d like. I accept my loss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39august Posted December 9, 2023 Author #20 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Interesting. Mer Soleil was my go to on X. Different strokes as they say! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CruiseRQA Posted December 9, 2023 #21 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, wineoclock said: I thought the Mer soleil was dreadful! Mer Soleil is a $15 Monterrey chardonnay. It isn't going to match a good French white. You need to try a good Napa or Sonoma chardonnay, a Napa cab or a Sonoma zin. Saying you don't like California wine because you didn't like Mer Soleil would be like saying you don't like Kentucky Bourbon because you tried Old Crow and didn't like it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare markeb Posted December 9, 2023 #22 Share Posted December 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, wineoclock said: Not the ones I’ve tried. I thought the Mer soleil was dreadful! I did blind wine tasting at berry brothers and I only liked the old world wines - I think it says my palate isn’t as varied as I’d like. I accept my loss! Try something unoaked or neutral oak from Russian River or Carneros. Totally different animal than Monterey (or the heavily oaked 100% malolactic chards from Napa). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomMike Posted December 9, 2023 #23 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 1:16 PM, cruisestitch said: Current premium and classic wine by the glass menus Sillhouette December 2023 They misspelled ‘Malbec’. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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