Only One Bar ??????

[beer1234]

Am I to understand that only one bar or lounge permits smoking! This is silly. Bars and smoking go together like babies and diapers. I,d be happy with half being smoke free. Guess this will be my last NCL trip!!!

[LemurCat]

Am I to understand that only one bar or lounge permits smoking! This is silly. Bars and smoking go together like babies and diapers. I,d be happy with half being smoke free. Guess this will be my last NCL trip!!!

 

 

Huh? Last cruise I was on (Gem), you could smoke at any of the outdoor bars, at the casino bar, and in the smoking lounge.

 

And as for your bars and smoking theory ... yeah, I thought that too until they banned smoking in bars in NY and NJ. And then I learned to deal with going outside for a smoke. And then I quit.

[dukejr]

Am I to understand that only one bar or lounge permits smoking! This is silly. Bars and smoking go together like babies and diapers. I,d be happy with half being smoke free. Guess this will be my last NCL trip!!!

 

There are very few states in the US that allow you to smoke in any type of public building - Restaurants, bar, offices, anywhere. It has to do with lawsuits resulting from second hand smoke...

[beer1234]

It will be like drinking black coffee when you're used to cream and sugar. So far here in Pa we've had the brains to allow both so far but I'm sure that will change too. What's the difference if you kill yourself with booze or smoke.

[DAGVBSB]

Am I to understand that only one bar or lounge permits smoking! This is silly. Bars and smoking go together like babies and diapers. I,d be happy with half being smoke free. Guess this will be my last NCL trip!!!

 

Well, I guess you won't be coming to Ohio either. In 2006, Ohio passed one of the toughest no smoking laws in the country. It passed by a 70%-30% vote of the population in an election where Democrats won a huge victory in our state elected offices and had a huge voter turnout.

 

In Ohio, it is illegal to smoke inside any public facility, including all bars, bowling alley's, restaurants, bingo halls and even fraternal organization buildings like the VFW, Elks, Eagles and Moose Clubs. Business and their employees can and have been fined for allowing smoking in their facilities.

 

It is so nice to be able to go to a bowling alley or bar and not come out with your clothes smelling like smoke.

[Toyz711]

it may be your last cruise, NCL is not the only ones....the rules are changing all over the industry.

[Stillfloatin']

Am I to understand that only one bar or lounge permits smoking! This is silly. Bars and smoking go together like babies and diapers. I,d be happy with half being smoke free. Guess this will be my last NCL trip!!!

 

I suggest you do like us; book a balcony, order an in-cabin bar setup, and sit out and smoke and drink all you want as you listen to your iPod and watch the sea. Very nice.

[garycarla]

Hello!

 

Agree or not, the laws and general population have changed, and are changing rapidly. Though one of the cruiselines or cruiseships tried "no smoking" totally a few years ago, and it failed, it will be back again.

 

Again, no preaching, just stating what is happening.

 

Good luck finding another cruiseline that is much more lenient with smoking.

[ZoneHPH]

yes something about the smokes adds to the atmosphere. since the ban in NJ:

 

- my bowling average has gone down. can't get into the mood without the smoke. so i retired from league bowling.

- my pool skills have dwindled...so i just use my hands instead of teh pool cues.

- i can't focus in the casinos of Atlantic City, unless it's in the 25% smoking allowed area. but what if the hot tables are in the smoke banned area?

- i still use the term "smoking section" or "first available" in restaurants just to be mr. funny guy.

 

i don't smoke, but i think smoking has a place in society. true what the previous poster said...what's the difference liver or lungs?

 

oh...how about this...can we sue those people who wreak of smoke when they enter a public building? wouldnt' that be like tertiary or quartenary smoke?

[muwarr90]

true what the previous poster said...what's the difference liver or lungs?

 

Well, when you drink a scotch, it doesn't harm the liver of the person sitting next to you. ;)

[ZoneHPH]

Well, when you drink a scotch, it doesn't harm the liver of the person sitting next to you. ;)

 

i dunno. ask the guy that was across the aisle from me during an easter vigil church service after i had been drinking brandy all day.

 

for sure his BAC was elevated just from smelling me wreak of alcohol! hehehehehehe

[SakeDad]

What's the difference if you kill yourself with booze or smoke.

 

i don't smoke, but i think smoking has a place in society. true what the previous poster said...what's the difference liver or lungs?

 

The difference is, unless you drive drunk, drinking only hurts YOUR liver. If you smoke around ANYONE else, whether in public or at home around your own kids the second hand smoke IS and WILL harm everyone who comes in contact with it. THAT'S the difference! Geez, are we really still trying to get smokers to understand this??? I smoked for 18 years and knew this.

 

I suggest you do like us; book a balcony' date=' order an in-cabin bar setup, and sit out and smoke and drink all you want as you listen to your iPod and watch the sea. Very nice.[/quote']

And hopefully my balcony won't be downwind of your second hand smoke & ashes as I won't be able to enjoy the balcony I paid just as much as you to enjoy. Just saying.....:cool:

[ZoneHPH]

being from henderson, nv i thought you'd be sympathetic to smokers in public places.

 

there's plenty of them in the casinos...local and tourist casinos.

[Cruise_More_Often]

being from henderson, nv i thought you'd be sympathetic to smokers in public places.

 

there's plenty of them in the casinos...local and tourist casinos.

Perhaps that's why he's not!

[mikedw]

The law here in Maryland is like the one in Ohio. Took effect here last month and it's wonderful. Going to rejoin the American Legion now that I can eat in a smoke free enviroment.

[SakeDad]

being from henderson, nv i thought you'd be sympathetic to smokers in public places.

 

there's plenty of them in the casinos...local and tourist casinos.

 

Not as sympathetic as you think!!! Last year Las Vegas (including Henderson!) residents voted overwhelmingly to limit smoking!:D You can no longer smoke in ANY bar or lounge that serves food. There is no longer smoking in the mini-casino/slot areas at grocery stores, conveinance stores and pharmacies. There are many non-smoking areas at some of the major casinos now.

Gaming facilities, like restaurants and bars, benefit from smokefree indoor environments. Gaming industry workers typically suffer higher occupational exposure to secondhand smoke, putting them at greater risk for lung and heart disease and DNA damage. As has been proven time and time again, ventilation does not eliminate all the poisonous toxins and chemical components of secondhand smoke. Even in casinos with ventilation systems, because of the high levels of smoking, casino employees have higher levels of cotinine (metabolized nicotine) than do employees in other smoke-filled workplaces.

There are also a couple of hotels that have become smoke free not only in their casinos, but property wide. The next time you plan on a trip to Vegas don't think you'll be able to smoke anywhere and everywhere anymore. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas...including second hand smoke, and we locals are tired of breathing it.:p

[ZoneHPH]

Not as sympathetic as you think!!! Last year Las Vegas (including Henderson!) residents voted overwhelmingly to limit smoking!:D You can no longer smoke in ANY bar or lounge that serves food. There is no longer smoking in the mini-casino/slot areas at grocery stores, conveinance stores and pharmacies. There are many non-smoking areas at some of the major casinos now.

Gaming facilities, like restaurants and bars, benefit from smokefree indoor environments. Gaming industry workers typically suffer higher occupational exposure to secondhand smoke, putting them at greater risk for lung and heart disease and DNA damage. As has been proven time and time again, ventilation does not eliminate all the poisonous toxins and chemical components of secondhand smoke. Even in casinos with ventilation systems, because of the high levels of smoking, casino employees have higher levels of cotinine (metabolized nicotine) than do employees in other smoke-filled workplaces.

There are also a couple of hotels that have become smoke free not only in their casinos, but property wide. The next time you plan on a trip to Vegas don't think you'll be able to smoke anywhere and everywhere anymore. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas...including second hand smoke, and we locals are tired of breathing it.:p

 

and there you have it! the one place i thought would still be intact...guess not. ok i can understand the food service areas. and i never did understand slot machines at Lucky's and Vons...etc.

 

in this case then everyone is a winner in vegas.

[LOWTYD]

I live it CT ,which has pretty much been smoke free for quite some time. The legislators have a bill now which would not allow smoking in your own car if their are children in it. I dont smoke anymore, (12 years and counting and I feel great, and smell better too!) but now it getting to the point where they won't allow you smoke in your own home anymore...Big Brother is watching:eek: .

 

Port side of ship (outdoors), where posted, is designated smoking area.

[chrisbd1]

Dallas banned smoking in bowling alleys and Bingo halls-I stopped bowling and playing Bingo. Businesses that sale more booze than food an have smoking, all resturants are nonsmoking. The suburb near Dallas that still allows smoking saw these resturant revenues shoot up 50% when this happened. I stopped eating out as much.

 

I only sail balcony's when I cruise, using the money not spent on bowling, Bingo and eating out :D

[AFT_LOVER]

Restaurants are setting up outdoor dining so you can smoke while eating or having drinks. Good luck in the winter!

 

No smoking outdoors also, at Browns stadium or the former Jacobs Field now sold naming rights to Progressive Insurance.

 

 

Well, I guess you won't be coming to Ohio either. In 2006, Ohio passed one of the toughest no smoking laws in the country. It passed by a 70%-30% vote of the population in an election where Democrats won a huge victory in our state elected offices and had a huge voter turnout.

 

In Ohio, it is illegal to smoke inside any public facility, including all bars, bowling alley's, restaurants, bingo halls and even fraternal organization buildings like the VFW, Elks, Eagles and Moose Clubs. Business and their employees can and have been fined for allowing smoking in their facilities.

 

It is so nice to be able to go to a bowling alley or bar and not come out with your clothes smelling like smoke.

[herb]

We live in NYC which was one of the first to have the "no smoking" law. We're so used to it by now that if we do go somewhere where there are no "no smoking" laws we're actually surprised.

[Preds]

Am I to understand that only one bar or lounge permits smoking! This is silly. Bars and smoking go together like babies and diapers. I,d be happy with half being smoke free. Guess this will be my last NCL trip!!!

Not in NY they don't. They banned smoking in bars here a couple years ago, and what a difference it's made. You can actually have a drink without sucking on 2nd hand smoke.

 

I applaud NCL for doing what they've done to limit smoking on the ships, I only wish they'd ban it on balconies as well so we can breath fresh air instead of our neighbors 2nd hand smoke.

 

:getsflameretardentsuiton:

[DAGVBSB]

Restaurants are setting up outdoor dining so you can smoke while eating or having drinks. Good luck in the winter!

 

No smoking outdoors also, at Browns stadium or the former Jacobs Field now sold naming rights to Progressive Insurance.

 

Come down to the Easton Area in Columbus. Smith & Wollensky Restaurant put tables outside during the winter with propane fired heaters scattered through the area to keep it warm. Now you can poison your lungs from smoking while being suffocated from propane fumes at the same time.....

[coka]

Am I to understand that only one bar or lounge permits smoking! This is silly. Bars and smoking go together like babies and diapers. I,d be happy with half being smoke free. Guess this will be my last NCL trip!!!

 

 

I had already booked an NCL cruise when I found out about the change in their smoking policy. I was nervous. I thought I was going to be stuck in the cigar bar all week. I conquered my addiction to gambling so I was apprehensive about having to hang around a casino to smoke a cigarette. Would I take up drinking again if I could not have nicotene? Would I become overweight again? I seriously thought about having to find another favorite cruise line. How could they do this to me, I wondered? Would I revert to my junior high days and sneak them in the public bathrooms in-between late-night dancing? ...

 

Then I went on the cruise and realized my worries were unfounded. Actually, I have been on three NCL cruises since the change and they seem to have not forsaken us. Outside smoking areas (with ashtrays) are set up very near the nightclubs on Dawn, Gem and Pearl. There are signs in many outside areas that state "You can smoke here."

 

The nice thing about the cruise ships is that outdoor exits are all nearby.

 

Moral of my story: It is not as bad as you think. I travel with smokers and they did not think it was bad either. We all agreed with the changes and it certainly makes sense. We do not mind killing our own lungs, but we do have a problem with killing other people's...

 

You would be surprised at the laws all over the country and the world. Smoking is not allowed on San Diego beach!

 

Coka

[mbisson]

Here in Washington State smoking is banned within 25 feet of the entrances to public building/businesses (as well as in them of course). And moves are underway to ban it in parks. I honestly doubt that it would be allowed here even if a restaurant/bar set up an outdoor area.

 

I don't smoke but think our state may be going "overboard" (hey I had to tie this post into cruising somehow) ;)