Rare ohioNCLcruiser Posted July 30, 2008 #1 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hey everyone, I posted this question in the continental forum at flyertalk but thought I would also ask here. Does anyone have any idea what the Worlds longest domestic flight is in any country? Is it the NYC area to Honolulu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisenOne Posted July 30, 2008 #2 Share Posted July 30, 2008 If domestic means within borders of a country; then, I would say a flight in Russia. Russia has seven time zones, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted July 30, 2008 #3 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Does anyone have any idea what the Worlds longest domestic flight is in any country? Is it the NYC area to Honolulu?Off the top of my head, I think that the longest non-stop domestic flight is Paris-Reunion, at about 5,050 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klfrodo Posted July 30, 2008 #4 Share Posted July 30, 2008 JFK to Guam (which is a US Territory) ((may not be a "Domestic" flight though)) is 7950 miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorex Posted July 30, 2008 #5 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Middle seat, coach, between two sumo wrestlers each holding a screaming baby and the air conditioning doesn't work while on a ground hold for hours....oh, you meant long as in "distance"??? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parody Posted July 30, 2008 #6 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Off the top of my head, I think that the longest non-stop domestic flight is Paris-Reunion, at about 5,050 miles. Would you know which airline flies this nonstop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted July 30, 2008 #7 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Would you know which airline flies this nonstop?OAG (on a random date - 30 August) has this operated by Corsair (SS) with a 747, Air France (AF) with a 777, and Air Austral (UU) with a 777. I'm not sure that they are all daily; the AF is certainly daily but the timetable for the other two airlines would take longer to decipher to work out whether it is daily or not, and how seasonal the frequencies are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parody Posted July 30, 2008 #8 Share Posted July 30, 2008 OAG (on a random date - 30 August) has this operated by Corsair (SS) with a 747, Air France (AF) with a 777, and Air Austral (UU) with a 777. I only have the North American edition of the OAG and not the World edition, but to the extent that other online sources are correct, it appears that only AF operates this route nonstop. Corsair does some code-sharing so it's not entirely clear what they actually operate. At least one source indicates that while they do have direct service from Paris to Reunion, the aircraft stops in Lyon enroute. Air Austral is a big unknown. Their website shows no nonstop service, but I wouldn't go to the bank on what it is saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted July 30, 2008 #9 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I only have the North American edition of the OAG and not the World edition, but to the extent that other online sources are correct, it appears that only AF operates this route nonstop. Corsair does some code-sharing so it's not entirely clear what they actually operate. At least one source indicates that while they do have direct service from Paris to Reunion, the aircraft stops in Lyon enroute. Air Austral is a big unknown. Their website shows no nonstop service, but I wouldn't go to the bank on what it is saying.What I get from the AF website (now that I've tried the airlines' own websites) is that they are currently on 10 nonstops a week, reducing to 7 (ie daily) in the northern winter. Air Austral's website says they have a daily nonstop, with an eighth nonstop in high season. But I can't get hold of Corsair's timetable - something in their website doesn't like my computer (or vice versa). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF-1 Posted July 30, 2008 #10 Share Posted July 30, 2008 By domestic let's look at within the lower 48. The longest most likely would be miami-seattle. If u want to go outside the lower 48 then probably miami-honolulu or Bangor Maine-Hawaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted July 30, 2008 #11 Share Posted July 30, 2008 By domestic let's look at within the lower 48. The longest most likely would be miami-seattle. If u want to go outside the lower 48 then probably miami-honolulu or Bangor Maine-Hawaii.Miami-Seattle is a paltry 2,700 miles. There is one airline currently operating a NYC-Hawaii flight: Continental's flight from Newark to Honolulu. But this is (just) under 5,000 miles. There are no airlines operating Miami-Honolulu non-stop (and it's shorter than New York-Honolulu anyway), and there aren't even any direct flights from Bangor to Honolulu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parody Posted July 31, 2008 #12 Share Posted July 31, 2008 There is one airline currently operating a NYC-Hawaii flight: Continental's flight from Newark to Honolulu. But this is (just) under 5,000 miles. About 10 years ago I took this flight. It's duration is 9.5 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ohioNCLcruiser Posted July 31, 2008 Author #13 Share Posted July 31, 2008 By domestic flights I mean from Take off to landing, not a stop in between. So in the states it would be Continental flight 14/15 to and from Newark to Honolulu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeyer418 Posted July 31, 2008 #14 Share Posted July 31, 2008 JFK to Guam (which is a US Territory) ((may not be a "Domestic" flight though)) is 7950 miles I don't believe there is a non stop doing this. I had a friend who had to routinely go to Guam and the shortest way in time from NYC was a flight through Narita. But hey they might have added a flight. My personal longest non-stop has been NY to Tokyo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ohioNCLcruiser Posted July 31, 2008 Author #15 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I don't believe there is a non stop doing this. I had a friend who had to routinely go to Guam and the shortest way in time from NYC was a flight through Narita. But hey they might have added a flight. My personal longest non-stop has been NY to Tokyo.... Im 98% sure the only flight from the US directly to Guam without going to Japan or Hong Kong is on Continental from Houston-Honolulu-Guam. PS I just have you beat, my longest is from Newark-Hong Kong. Its 8,060 miles vs 6,732 to Tokyo.:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeyer418 Posted July 31, 2008 #16 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Im 98% sure the only flight from the US directly to Guam without going to Japan or Hong Kong is on Continental from Houston-Honolulu-Guam. PS I just have you beat, my longest is from Newark-Hong Kong. Its 8,060 miles vs 6,732 to Tokyo.:p LOL but that isn't a non stop from JFK. Yes I know the other way to Guam is through Hawaii but I am told in time that is longer than going through Narita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_in_Spain Posted August 2, 2008 #17 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Perhaps not so long but definitely non-stop is Paris to Guadeloupe (4200 miles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbee Posted August 3, 2008 #18 Share Posted August 3, 2008 HNL-EWR is probably going to win most 'longest domestic' battles. Reunion (to France) and Guam (to USA) are slightly different, as they are not necessarily part of the country, but merely a protectorate. (and then you could start adding stuff like Brize Norton-Ascension) If you take HNL (and the odd situation of the USA having a state 2000+ miles from any other) out of the picture, I think the longest domestic flights then become things like SVO-VVO, ANC-ATL and YYC-YYT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted August 4, 2008 #19 Share Posted August 4, 2008 HNL-EWR is probably going to win most 'longest domestic' battles. Reunion (to France) and Guam (to USA) are slightly different, as they are not necessarily part of the country, but merely a protectorate.I don't know about Guam, but Réunion is not "merely a protectorate". Réunion is a departement outre mer, which makes it an integral part of the Republic with the same status as the departements situated on the European mainland. Réunion is an outermost region of the European Union, and thus the currency used is the euro. In fact, due to its location in a time zone to the east of Europe, Réunion was the first region in the world to use the euro. Its relationship with France is, in fact, little different from Hawaii's relationship with the USA. And this is why PAR-RUN is probably going to win most "longest domestic" battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeyer418 Posted August 4, 2008 #20 Share Posted August 4, 2008 EWR to HNL is longer at about 5000 miles.... BTW its closer from HNL to Tokyo than it is to the East Coast.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted August 4, 2008 #21 Share Posted August 4, 2008 OK, finally some precise numbers, courtesy of the Great Circle Mapper:- JFK-HNL is 4,983 miles. EWR-HNL is 4,962 miles. CDG-RUN is 5,809 miles. ORY-RUN is 5,802 miles. I think that the "5,050 miles" I had before must have been the nautical miles figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmgriffin Posted August 9, 2013 #22 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I realize that this post might come off as borderline spammy (as I'm reviving a dead thread and linking to a blog), but I used a few of the suggestions I found on this post when researching and wanted to share the end result. Hopefully someone will find it interesting! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Could only include 6 images, the full post can be found here: Weekend Blitz - TOP 10: LONGEST DOMESTIC FLIGHTS IN THE WORLD You'd think that this was a cut and dry topic, but it's far from it. What flights should count? Non-stop only? Contiguous countries? Territories and dependencies (they do often have the same currency and government as their mother country). As a result we've had to categorize the list a bit. We'll start with a little background: the IATA (International Air Transport Association) defines "domestic" as two places with the same ISO country code. Contrary to the IATA definition, however, the regular passenger considers domestic flights as those where they do not need to pass immigration on departure and arrival. LONGEST NON-STOP DOMESTIC FLIGHT The winner: St. Denis, Reunion-RUN to Paris-CDG operated by Air Austral covering 5,809 miles in 11h 10mins on a B777. This is same ISO code to same ISO code, so quite technically it's the longest non-stop domestic flight in the world. In addition to the CDG-RUN route, Air France, Air Caraibes and Corsair International operate flights from Paris-ORY to Reunion-RUN, which is just 7 miles shorter than the CDG-RUN route for a total of 5,802 miles. Runner up: USA coming in for a strong second with New York-JFK to Honolulu-HNL at 4,983 miles in 10 hours and 50 minutes. Operated by Hawaiian Airlines on an Airbus A330. Worth noting: Either France had a much larger Empire that I realized or they've just maintained control of the territories longer than say Portugal or Great Britain and can therefore be qualified as domestic. Either way, with these two flights below, France's total has jumped to 3 of the longest domestic flights in the world. - Paris-ORY - Cayenne, French Guinea-CAY (ISO Country: FRANCE) - 9h 15m flight - 4,401 miles. Flown by Air Caraibes & Air France from ORY. - Paris-ORY - Fort-de-France, Martinique-FDF (ISO Country: FRANCE) - 8h 50m flight - 4,259 miles. Flown by Air France, Corsair International and Air Caraibes from ORY. Longest non-stop domestic flight within contiguous country Winner: Moscow-DME to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky Airport-PKC clocking in at 4,224 miles. The flight takes 8h 40mins on Transaero’s B777-300. A very close second, but technically the same market, is Moscow-SVO to PKC, coming in just 21 miles shorter at 4,203 miles. This flight takes just 8h 05mins on Aeroflot’s B777-300ER (Rossiya Airlines sells tickets as well). Super impressive that this flight doesn’t pass over borders or water. Runner-up: The second longest domestic flight is from Sakhalin, Russia-UUS to Moscow-SVO for a distance of 4,140 miles. Aeroflot’s Airbus A330 makes the trip in 8h 50 mins. For comparison: The longest non-stop flight in the contiguous 48-states is Miami-MIA to Seattle-SEA on American Airlines at 2,724 miles in 6 hours 40 minutes. So, yes, if there’s one thing Russia is still better than us at, it’s being fricken enormous–really giving Texas a run for its money. LONGEST DOMESTIC FLIGHT WITH STOP The winner: Paris-CDG to Papeete-PPT with a stop in Los Angeles-LAX. The cool thing? LAX couldn’t be anymore perfectly in route: the total distance with a stop at LAX of 9,765 miles – exactly matching the total distance if it could be flown directly. The flight is operated by both Air France (on a B777) and Air Tahiti Nui (Airbus A340) and takes a total of 22h 30mins: 12 hours from CDG-LAX, a 2 hour stop and a final 8h 30 mins on the LAX-PPT leg. Now should this officially count? Ehh, French Polynesia is just a territory but…Francois Hollande is the president. They do use their own currency, though. Either way, it’s on this list and pretty cool that you can fly CDG-LAX-PPT all on the same Flight #, without ever having to deplane (I think), although I’m sure you would at least want to! Runner-up: Houston-IAH to Guam-GUM with a connection in Honolulu-HNL. Flight #201 is operated by United Airlines and is technically 7,705 miles, though you could argue that only the direct distance of 7,446 miles should be counted. The total westbound trip takes 17h 1min: IAH-HNL in 8h 12mins, a 1hr 4 min stop and a 7hr 45 min flight from HNL-GUM. Same debate applies with Guam as did Papeete, should it be included? Well Obama is the President, they have a governor and they use the US $ as their only currency. Sounds like ‘Merica to me. FRICKEN COOLEST DOMESTIC FLIGHT? Winner: RAF Brize Norton, UK-BZZ to RAF Mount Pleasant Airport-MPN (Stanley, Falklands) would come in at 7,840 miles if flown direct but since they have to stop for refueling in Ascension Island-ASI the total is 8,096 miles. But what’s so cool about this flight? The British Ministry of Defence (sic–as with most words in the Queen’s version of English) arranges the flights and sells only between 10-30 seats per flight to civilians. It used to be flown entirely on Royal Air Force (RAF) equipment, but now is contracted out to different charter companies. They fly a few times a week and sell seats that aren’t needed for British Military personnel. Don’t expect any deals, though: the flights will run you about £2,222 roundtrip ($3,450!). More info available here. Weekend Blitz - TOP 10: LONGEST DOMESTIC FLIGHTS IN THE WORLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottbee Posted August 10, 2013 #23 Share Posted August 10, 2013 great article, but... The Netherlands should be #3 with AMS-BON being further (4844 miles - flown by Arkefly) than either; - Paris-ORY - Cayenne, French Guinea-CAY (ISO Country: FRANCE) - 9h 15m flight - 4,401 miles. Flown by Air Caraibes & Air France from ORY; or - Paris-ORY - Fort-de-France, Martinique-FDF (ISO Country: FRANCE) - 8h 50m flight - 4,259 miles. Flown by Air France, Corsair International and Air Caraibes from ORY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmgriffin Posted August 10, 2013 #24 Share Posted August 10, 2013 great article, but... The Netherlands should be #3 with AMS-BON being further (4844 miles - flown by Arkefly) than either; - Paris-ORY - Cayenne, French Guinea-CAY (ISO Country: FRANCE) - 9h 15m flight - 4,401 miles. Flown by Air Caraibes & Air France from ORY; or - Paris-ORY - Fort-de-France, Martinique-FDF (ISO Country: FRANCE) - 8h 50m flight - 4,259 miles. Flown by Air France, Corsair International and Air Caraibes from ORY. Thanks for pointing that out! Update has been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie MeMe Posted August 10, 2013 #25 Share Posted August 10, 2013 By domestic flights I mean from Take off to landing, not a stop in between. So in the states it would be Continental flight 14/15 to and from Newark to Honolulu. Going on this one-- United flight EWR to HNL -- on a frequent flyer seat in late October. We caught a sale and are flying 2 people to Hawaii for $619 roundtrip + the hunk of miles we got for flying to China and Thailand. The problem is it is a domestic flight and no meal is served. Guess I will be carrying a large lunch bag!:eek::p I hope everybody orders those sandwiches with NO onion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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