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I have not read any threads about roulette yet..so I thought it will be all right for me to start one. If this is not okay, please let me know. Anyways I am a huge roulette fan...anybody play on the Carnival Cruise Ships? I am leaving for my first cruise in 18 days, so I am super excited about the experience. I am also excited about the casino..and I know it is nothing like Vegas, but maybe I can get rid of some of my gambling bug...Anybody have any experience playing roulette on the ships??? Thanks

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Hello and welcome to the casino section!

Yes, it is OKAY!!!!!

Great thread. I was thinking about adding a roulette thread but I didn't want to add too many threads at one time. You made perfect timing though.

I don't play much roulette but will bet black or red if I see that there have been many blacks or reds in a row. I will just slip by and put down a bet to try to win even money. That is my play. :D

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but will bet black or red if I see that there have been many blacks or reds in a row.

 

What does that have to dowith the next spin:confused:?

Well if there are six reds in a row, chances are better a black will come up, right? If not, who cares? HAHA!

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Let's all get along!!:( Yo ELeven..I have to thank you for getting the Casino forum started.. There are numerous times that my husband and I do the same thing when it comes betting black and red. Sometimes luck is all you got....I play the numbers, and see if I get lucky....it has worked in Vegas and we will see how well it will work on the bet. Someone in a different thread put a link for all of the different cruise ships and what the casinos had in them. I absolutely love that link, but I am a little bummed, cause I think it stated that Ecstasy only had 1 roulette table. Anyways, welcome to roulette and it doesnt matter how we play as long as we get to gamble!!!!!:D

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Let's all get along!!:( Yo ELeven..I have to thank you for getting the Casino forum started.. There are numerous times that my husband and I do the same thing when it comes betting black and red. Sometimes luck is all you got....I play the numbers, and see if I get lucky....it has worked in Vegas and we will see how well it will work on the bet. Someone in a different thread put a link for all of the different cruise ships and what the casinos had in them. I absolutely love that link, but I am a little bummed, cause I think it stated that Ecstasy only had 1 roulette table. Anyways, welcome to roulette and it doesnt matter how we play as long as we get to gamble!!!!!:D

Thanks for chiming in, Rodney! :D

Glad you like the section. Don't worry about us in here. We are all buddies though.

 

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Well if there are six reds in a row, chances are better a black will come up, right? If not, who cares? HAHA!

 

Actually that is a very common mistake, so let's look at it.

 

On a double zero roulette wheel there are 18 red numbers, 18 black numbers and 2 green numbers, so you place a chip on red, the chances of winning are 18/38

 

The ball lands on a black number, you lose, so following on with a very common betting pattern you place 2 chips on red, following the line of thinking that it is now more likely to land on a red number than it is to land on another black number, the dealer spins the ball and the odds are now 18/38 that you will win, exactly the same as before, the wheel has no memory, it's good to remember that.

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Actually that is a very common mistake, so let's look at it.

 

On a double zero roulette wheel there are 18 red numbers, 18 black numbers and 2 green numbers, so you place a chip on red, the chances of winning are 18/38

 

The ball lands on a black number, you lose, so following on with a very common betting pattern you place 2 chips on red, following the line of thinking that it is now more likely to land on a red number than it is to land on another black number, the dealer spins the ball and the odds are now 18/38 that you will win, exactly the same as before, the wheel has no memory, it's good to remember that.

Well let me clarify-I hardly EVER play roulette. If I am at the craps table next to a roulette table and see that there were six reds in a row ,"just for fun" I will simply toss a $5 chip on the black. There is no rhyme of reason to it. It is based on gut feelings. I am not suggesting this is a strategy to WIN in roulette. That is simply the way I play, IF I play. Does it win? Not too often because I hardly ever play roulette. Have I won before? Yes. Is it a roulette strategy? No. It is Yo Eleven's.

Any more questions you barroom brawlers? :D

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Well let me clarify-I hardly EVER play roulette. If I am at the craps table next to a roulette table and see that there were six reds in a row ,"just for fun" I will simply toss a $5 chip on the black. There is no rhyme of reason to it. It is based on gut feelings. I am not suggesting this is a strategy to WIN in roulette. That is simply the way I play, IF I play. Does it win? Not too often because I hardly ever play roulette. Have I won before? Yes. Is it a roulette strategy? No. It is Yo Eleven's.

Any more questions you barroom brawlers? :D

 

Good that you don't play roulette regulary.... That strategy offers no advantage to you.

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OK, i'm playing the outside......1-12 13-24 and 25-36 these bets pay 2/1.

I place bets on 1-12 and 13-24. I now have 2/3 of the numbers covered but my odds are now 1 to 1, because if it hits I lose one bet but get back 2 to 1 on the other. The problem starts if luck is going bad and I am losing at twice the normal clip.

I have used this "strategy" and played for hours. It is a grind and rather boring, but I have walked away happy more times than not.

I prefer faster paced and excitement like craps. This poses a problem when I have been drinking and start playing the numbers and other bets. Once I do this my "strategy" is out the door.

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You know, it's just dawned on me, I seem to always be bringing doom and gloom to these threads :( Honestly I am not trying to, I am just trying to pass along some wisdom and insight from the other side of the table.

 

Ok, to answer the strategy posted above.

 

your covering 24/38 numbers meaning you are giving the casino a large shot at your money, yes on paper it sounds good covering all those numbers, however one miss means you need to win twice to cover a loss.

 

Roulette is not a great game to play, however you do have the chance to win a healthy chunk of change in a short time due to the 35-1 payout for a straight up bet, it comes down to my being in the right place at the right tim rule.

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jetwet you are okay. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. How do you think I feel? Me being a darkside player and all. Hahaha

 

Hey, when it comes down to it that's what I do, or just lay the 4,10 if I am being boring.

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Quick thoughts-(from memory so I hope all my numbers are correct)

 

-Roulette has a 5.2% house advantage on a wheel with 0 and 00-or about three or four times worse than blackjack or craps.

 

-The wheel has no memory. The take on roulette went up about 30% when casinos installed the boards to show previous rolls. I saw 27 reds in a row once-the casino made a killing as people throughout the casino heard about it and rushed over to bet black.

 

-I had a guy come to my table one night and buy $1200 in chips. He then bet $2 on red and it came up red. I paid him and he bet it again. He lost and bet $4-lost and doubled the bet again. In about 10 spins I had his $1200. The theory will always work-if there is no table limit and you have millions to cover a bad series. The same should apply for all casino games.

 

-The only way to consistently win at roulette (my opinion) is to find a wheel that is not completely balanced so that some numbers come up more often. This is not uncommon (again, my opinion) But it may take days of tracking to determine these numbers and the casino may re-balance the wheel in between. There was a European group that pulled this off years ago-until the casino started swapping wheels from table to table when they went home.

 

-An experienced dealer can hit an area of the wheel (a section of about 8-10 numbers). They won't hit it every time (sometimes the ball bounces across the wheel)- but often enough for you to make a profit if they like you. Roulette is the one game (if I play it and that's not often)-that I make sure I tip heavy and will often put an additional tip on the numbers for the dealer to play along with me.

 

-Your best bet if you don't have days to track a wheel is to find a beginning dealer. Their main concern is to get the ball around the wheel without it flying out and often they do not realize that they are spinning the same speed each time and can create a pattern. Other than craps, roulette causes more stress for new dealers than any other game.

 

-All games are streaky. I took $22k from a guy one day dealing bj. His average bet was around $100 and I don't think he ever bet more than $200 on a hand. I tried to talk him into going to another table, but he "felt the cards would change."

 

Again, my thoughts and opinions. I hope something may be helpful.

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If you have nothing but time and enjoy just watching for the "right" time to place a bet here is what I do.

 

I wait untill I see a patter. I have watched a table for hours if needed. I wait for re-peater, within 2 #'s of the pervious spin, or dealers who plays across the wheel 0 then 00 or 9 then 10. Once I find this there is 1 area of the table to play. This is beaucew it is the only area where the entire streets are right beside each other on the wheel and the felt. It allows to block betting to allow for greater covereage or the area for multi bet wins on all numbers.

 

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I will bet $15 on a spin. You bet all the Straight ups, splits and corners in the 25 to 30 block and if you see the spinner is a repeat area or cross wheel, I will bet another $5, $3 on the straight ups I think will be hit (odds or evens) and 2 on the 25-30 street.

 

If I have a few more $$$'s to spend I will also cover 0-00, 9-10 and 11-12 as these #'s are the brackets to what I call the top and bottom of the wheel.

 

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If you need more info ask.

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Quick thoughts-(from memory so I hope all my numbers are correct)

 

-Roulette has a 5.2% 5.26% house advantage on a wheel with 0 and 00-or about three or four times worse than blackjack or craps.

 

-The wheel has no memory. The take on roulette went up about 30% when casinos installed the boards to show previous rolls. I saw 27 reds in a row once-the casino made a killing as people throughout the casino heard about it and rushed over to bet black.

 

-I had a guy come to my table one night and buy $1200 in chips. He then bet $2 on red and it came up red. I paid him and he bet it again. He lost and bet $4-lost and doubled the bet again. In about 10 spins I had his $1200. The theory will always work-if there is no table limit and you have millions to cover a bad series. The same should apply for all casino games.

 

-The only way to consistently win at roulette (my opinion) is to find a wheel that is not completely balanced so that some numbers come up more often. This is not uncommon (again, my opinion) But it may take days of tracking to determine these numbers and the casino may re-balance the wheel in between. There was a European group that pulled this off years ago-until the casino started swapping wheels from table to table when they went home. Are you thinking about the group that hit the Golden Nugget?

 

-An experienced dealer can hit an area of the wheel (a section of about 8-10 numbers). They won't hit it every time (sometimes the ball bounces across the wheel)- but often enough for you to make a profit if they like you. Roulette is the one game (if I play it and that's not often)-that I make sure I tip heavy and will often put an additional tip on the numbers for the dealer to play along with me. With the new Huxley's that is not so easy not, the frets are very low, in the old days sure

 

-Your best bet if you don't have days to track a wheel is to find a beginning dealer. Their main concern is to get the ball around the wheel without it flying out and often they do not realize that they are spinning the same speed each time and can create a pattern. Other than craps, roulette causes more stress for new dealers than any other game.

 

-All games are streaky. I took $22k from a guy one day dealing bj. His average bet was around $100 and I don't think he ever bet more than $200 on a hand. I tried to talk him into going to another table, but he "felt the cards would change." I had the opposite, a guy sits down at my table ($25 min), plays for 40 minutes, he must of lost 3-4 hands in the whole time, he has about $1500 in front of him and he never raised his bet ! I was ready to come over the table at him !!

 

Again, my thoughts and opinions. I hope something may be helpful.

 

Answers in bold as I am heading to bed :D

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.......I took $22k from a guy one day dealing bj. His average bet was around $100 and I don't think he ever bet more than $200 on a hand. I tried to talk him into going to another table, but he "felt the cards would change."......

 

Nice to have $22K to lose in 1 day.... I wish he had the brains to know not to lose that much though.

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We're heading back out on Adventure of the Seas in September. I can't remember as it's been a few years since our last RC cruise, what are the table chips/minimums? I think last time was $1 chips but only $1 minimum.

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  • 4 weeks later...

I'll be on the Carnival Splendor next and will be "checking out" the roulette tables.

 

Does anyone think that the movement of the ship, due to rough seas, will have an effect on where the ball lands? Like giving the ball an extra bounce?

 

Yeah, I know this probably doesnt matter for me winning/losing, but just a curious thought.

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