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9 hours ago, Texas Tillie said:

Whatever floats your boat. Personally, I'd rather be in the "cheapest" cabin on any of the truly luxury lines than the fanciest "suite" on Royal Caribbean. Perhaps you might try that sometime and see the difference for yourself.

Not sure what makes you think I haven't tried both already.

4 hours ago, Silver Sweethearts said:

We would imagine that any such list would become full of inaccuracies over the months due to  concessions the cruise lines might make in price.

Sure, but small inaccuracies are fine. I did find one solution since starting the thread and it did work out, allowed me to identify several options that were within the price range I was looking for when comparing the third party site with Celebrity and NCL pricing.

5 minutes ago, Texas Tillie said:

Sorry but suites on mass market lines should not fall under "luxury".

Yeah, it goes down to notions of being the biggest fish in a small pond. I'm pretty sure that in (almost) any quantifiable metric I've experienced better luxury on Royal Caribbean than whatever else lines there are under the 'Luxury' category.

Happy to work through that line by line if you have some sort of criteria (price/cabin/F&B/service/etc)?

40 minutes ago, LHT28 said:

Maybe look for  a TA site that has the breakdown  by cabins

 

Yeah, that was kinda that question.. IE, do you have a website recommendation that has such a breakdown that I can look at.

36 minutes ago, LHT28 said:

Not sure what  your post has to do with Luxury lines🤔

Has nothing to do with "Luxury lines" the forum title is "Luxury Cruising".

Is there a quick way to sort prices of cruises by Suites? 

For example, I want a list of all Celebrity Retreat (or NCL Haven) level rooms for the next 12 months listed by price. At the moment I am searching cruise by cruise which is quite time consuming, and I'd like to be able to see if there is a 'bargain' on something (anywhere in the world, at any time) with the cabin choices that I'm looking for.

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I do appreciate your effort to help, but I'm just not sold on the answer yet :)

Each port charges fees based on different calculations. You are assuming that every port uses the same formula, but the truth is the exact opposite. Each port charges based on a number of variables, including any contracts a cruise line may have for services, like water, fuel or power received.

 

So, there is no hard and fast rule, like per passenger, or a percentage. Remember, on a given 7 day cruise you might be dealing with 5 or 6 different ports/cities/countries, so you might have 5 or 6 different ways of assessing taxes and fees.

No, in my question I assumed each port charged a different amount. I've been on many cruises and know the difference between a prime spot and a secondary location. STT is a good example of that.

My thinking was that if each port has a tariff the you could ballpark the fees- then the taxes ought to be somehow a percentage of that.

That way, if cruise 1 had 4 ports and cruise 2 had 5 you could work out a ballpark, and if you knew 5 was Charlotte Amelie you could further refine.

As a concept it's no different from flying through different airports, each has their own fee and tax schedule that can be broken down. Fly from NY to Istanbul via Frankfurt costs more than direct for taxes due to German departure and (air)port taxes.

Fair point about contracts to discount, but again shouldn't that be something that can be observed?

Even if you don't know the source of the pricing, I'd have thought there would be enough empirical evidence from a segment of the size of cruise critic to be reasonably accurate.

Each country/each port sets their own port fees and they can change them whenever they wish. Thus, the cruise line has to be free to change them. Not everything always 'makes sense' or is carved in stone.

 

Just to be argumentative, would a more accurate answer be as per above, that there is a system, but you don't know what it is?

Thanks for the replies folks.

So, I can conclude:

Tax, in regard to cruises is not calculated as a percentage? This seems unusual.

The port charges part, regarding hours in port/pax is interesting, but does it really change?

If Port of Miami Pier 11 charges a price to dock there, I would imagine that is a constant, even if the hours in port and the pax# might be variable.

I'm really surprised that there isn't more clarity on this, with airlines the fees are reasonably consistent (once you understand the codes and rules).

Hi,

I am looking at several cruises that are on offer, and wanted to see if someone could help breakdown the actual amount charged for port fees/charges/taxes. The goal is to be able to take any base fare from a discounted TA, and then be able to add a set number to it to get to a final price, therefore being able to see if it fits into my budget or not.

I would imagine it to be a case of Port X charges Y per diem, plus a tax of Z% on either the base fare or the fare+charges.

Is there a list of the taxes and charges per port anywhere?

Thanks,

Matt