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I have once on the Miracle room 5299. Told staff and still waiting for Carnival to respond. My family had to go to doctor upon getting home. Took pictures and sent them to Carnival let's see if they blow me off. Will update after they receive my letter. If no action the will send to the BBB

A little different if a plane goes down for maintenance you get on a spare plane they dont put you on a pkane on the tarmac for 3 days. If Carnival would have brought in another ship we would not be having this issue but then again there are no spare ships in existence. You are trying to compare apples and oranges. I have been crusing since 1980 and my mom has been crusing since the 70s with her own travel agency so i have seen how things play out over the years. Just saying:cool:uote=Palmetto Pilot;56144148]Exactly we don't advertise specifics with the planes, it's a maintenance issues is all i usually say.

Wonder if that was intention so they could get all the work completed. They now backed up the embarkation time by 3 hours. Oh well is what it is guess we can explore an empty ship.

We cancelled

According to the rep that I spoke to yesterday over half the ship has canceled

 

 

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Cannot believe that Carnival is not coming clean as to why the delay. We live local, diamond passengers and will have a good time whether docked in Tampa or on an island.

The reason for delay is one issue, I am also curious about the prorate statement versus two day refund. Might be the same, but representative told us adjustments would be made once on ship. Carnival is not exactly a leader in refunds so this whole deal is interesting.

I called WFLA to see if they could find out what is really going on.

Might help if others did the same.

Fun reasons for delay: Captain lost the map, Chef ate his own food and has food poisoning, propeller keeps falling off.

Feel free to contribute delay reasons.

Carnival said take you rate without taxes and divide by seven then add two days that will be your refund amount plus the two port fees so you should be able to get a ruff amount you will be getting back.

Not sure what you mean that the ship "received a entire new system". Miracle has had azipods since newbuild, and still has azipods. While in drydock, ships with azipods routinely exchange the thrust shaft sub-assembly for a reconditioned one, but that is no guarantee that it still wouldn't break down 2.5-3 years later, especially given that these are the older version of azipods.

 

I highly doubt there is a "concealed" security threat involved. As for "staff shortages", there are pools of crew waiting in their home countries for the call from the crewing agencies to get right on a plane and get to the ship. Unless the ship had a hundred unexpected crew quit with little notice (they normally don't because then they have to pay their own way home), this isn't the issue.

 

Given that the last drydock was in 2015, and that Miracle is under 15 years old, I suspect this is the statutory UWILD (Underwater Inspection in lieu of Drydock), since this is the last UWILD Miracle can do. After 15 years, UWILDs are no longer acceptable, and the ship must drydock twice in 5 years. This can take 2-3 days of divers examining and filming virtually every inch of the ship that is underwater. Frequently, this is done over 2-3 turn-around days, but Carnival may have found themselves up against the time frame limit and had to do it all at once. It requires the sufficient dive infrastructure to get the inspection done, and the necessary visibility in the water, as well as the required permits to do the inspection from the port. This will also involve things like polishing the propellers and renewing zinc anodes that require permitting (removal of the marine growth on the propellers is an EPA regulated task)(welding in port requires permits from the USCG).

That is great information thank you but if that is the case then Carnival just needs to come clean. Some of us had to put in over 5 months in advance to get this time off and due to work can't reschedule. I just expect honesty no more no less. Again thanks for the great info.

Considering how many people have cancelled on this cruise I would it could not hurt to ask.

Spoke with the Carnival Diamond staff today. They said it is maintennce that needs to be done and had be scheduled but also said it was not a safety issue. When I pressed for more information she told me that the corporate office was not giving more to them. She did verify that we will be having 2 elegant nights and the Platinum/Diamond party. I was also told that Carnival is still working on the time logistics while in Tampa but said we will have to be on the ship by a certain time and might not be able to get off on Sunday since they have to get an accuate count and luggae delivered but that is still being decided. I was also told over 100 people did cancel so far and others still had until Weds. That's all I got but it' a start for now until furher information is released.

So, is this now a 5 day cruise, going to Grand Cayman, and Cozumel? If so, I hope they make Grand Cayman. It took us 6 tries before we finally got there. We've been on a 5 day cruise out of Tampa once, on Paradise, and we only ended up going to 1 port. It wasn't fun.

Us to on the Paradise the did an overnight in Couzeml. Guess we need to hope for the best.

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Not into conspiracy theories alerts have been issued and I have seen them since I'm in that field. Miracle has had propulsion issues in the past but last dry dock in 2015 it received a entire new system. Anything is possible but we should be told the entire truth about why it changed. I had to put in 5 months ago for time off and get change it. I'm in law enforcement and assigned to special operations so I can't get time off easily.

It seems funny because a co-worker of mine leaves today 5/20/18 and has a full itinerary without any deviation. I also do not think it is maintenance because its Memorial day. Now I feel it can be only one of two things either they have a staff shortage and need the extra days to get the ship fully staffed or the received a possible security threat from one of the two ports either Belize or Rotan. If the second is true they would need to make another excuse because they would not want to spook the guest since it would cause a mass Exodus and the truth would be told by every media outlet. They need not be shady with us and tell us what is really going on so we can keep our family's safe and relax during the cruise. Stay tuned hopefully come Monday they will let us know since they put the email out on Friday night after everyone has gone home and have had the weekend to get a story prepared.

I just got of the phone and was told to call back Monday because they only have the e-mail we received. I also called our travel insurance and was told the Itinerary change portion only takes affect once the ship leaves port then changes in mid sail so that's a bust too. My co-worker leaves on May 20th and has a full Itinerary so I am lost on this.

What reasons were they giving you?