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  1. 1 minute ago, arxcards said:

    All that is built into the slide at the start of the post. No daily grats means they pay their staff direct and you pay a higher upfront fare.

    The trick is to notice when you are getting squeezed, and to let other passengers take the hit instead.


    Norwegian charged the higher upfront fare and daily grats separately. 



  2. 7 hours ago, arxcards said:

    The table is not a daily value. It is not defined very well but would appear to be profit per passenger per cruise. CLIA says the average cruise length is approximately 7 days.


    So, Viva will generate a net annual profit (before some degree of ebitda) of around $US27.5 million on an asset that cost them over $US850 million.


    +1 - not an amazing raking


    They were making money by not paying any crew which they mentioned. They said our $20 to $25 daily gratuities was to pay staff. They did a roaring trade in the casino and the raffles. I'm sure they skimmed profits from the stores and speciality dining rooms that charged over US$100 per person. They took payments for return shuttle boats directly into the city at some ports at US$20 when the regular price was 4 euros. We even had to pay for shuttle buses to get out of wharves which you couldn't walk out of. The food was no frills which saved them money too, so over the life of the ship they wouldn't be losing money. This ship also had a large Haven section for passengers paying first class fares.


    We managed to get a discount during one of their promotions which saved us several thousand on the initial price we booked at. But the total cost was on par with a concerige class fare on Oceania for a similar length cruise which wouldn't have been no frills and would have included gratuities, some tours and thermal suite). 

  3. 1 hour ago, arxcards said:

    You could select a cabin, but not the ones you wanted. Your comment holds the answer - it isn't possible to sell the same cabins on the 7 & 4 night individual cruises and also sell them on the 11 night combo cruise. I think it holds true that of those cruises on offer, that the 7 night Brisbane to Brisbane cruise will be the most popular, it made sense that more cabins were allocated to that option.


    We did consider booking the 7 and the 4 night cruises separately. There wasn't a big difference in pricing, and it is still an option to anyone wanting to book a b2b specific cabin. 


    I understand what you are saying, but it still doesn't make sense to me. If we want one of those cabins for the 11 nighter all they have to do is let us select one and it becomes unavailable for the shorter cruises. 

  4. Just now, arxcards said:

    If they wanted that, they wouldn't be offering a combined 11 night cruise option at all.


    Then why not let us select a cabin? It makes no sense that passengers on the shorter legs can book cabins, but we can't. It could even get to the stage where we end up having to change cabins during the cruise depending on which ones are sold to the passengers on the shorter cruises.

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  5. 15 minutes ago, arxcards said:

    BA & BB balconies will normally have selectable cabins. They are midship, upper balconies. They are also more expensive. BD, BE, BF are more likely to be guarantee, but are less expensive. All the same, if you tell an agent you will only book if you can get specific cabin numbers, they can usually shake one out of the booking system.


    We tried the TA contacting Princess method, but with no luck. The class of cabin made no difference as we could have selected our own cabin if booking the shorter segments.


    Maybe Princess was hoping we'd book the two separate legs individually in order to get more money out of us.

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  6. 4 minutes ago, arxcards said:

    If you book early enough, you can book a specific cabin, although not in all grades. Once those allocated cabins are filled, they will default to guarantees so they can be more flexible in how they sell the remaining cabins. Even then, get your T/A or PCP to shake the tree for you.


    No big deal. If you book late, all of the preferred cabins are already taken, so you may as well settle for pot luck anyway. Be wary though. Most T/As will pitch you their best price, and those will be on bookings with non-refundable deposits for guarantee cabins. There will often be specific cabins, but at a price.



    We booked two cabins when they went on sale, so by the time they are allocated we will probably end up with two reject cabins that are nowhere near each other.

  7. 1 hour ago, Chiliburn said:

    There seems to be a big hole in our 25-26 season,there’s just about no southern Australian cruises. Anthem does one night in Hobart and that’s it.

    I reckon we can expect Serenade doing southern Australia.


    If that's true, why wouldn't they have mentioned it during last month's big publicity campaign for Voyager and Anthem? It would have made a greater impact if they had included all the ships being deployed in Australia for the season (assuming more are being deployed here).

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  8. We have a Japan cruise coming up in 2026 so this is very interesting. We were last there over 25 years ago on a land based tour. We used a lot of public transport (trains) then and are planning to do the same this time.


    We haven't thought about a hotel yet, but it will be near a station and we will most likely catch a train to the cruise port.

  9. 7 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said:

    And that is exactly why I want a table for two for breakfast! I am not civilized until I've had a pot of strong tea. Even Rolf knows not to ask me anything serious before I've had some food and my tea!


    See you on the Diamond, I'll keep away till after breakfast though. We'll have to have a meet and greet.

  10. 2 minutes ago, cruiser3775 said:

    Undoubtedly not. Having a sense of entitlement because you paid more than the peasants in steerage is unlikely to be the criteria used in evacuating people in a major emergency.


    Actually the way classes are segregated nowadays, it is quite likely suite guests will be ushered into to lifeboats first, whilst others have to wait in their respective lounges / muster stations till they are called.

  11. 5 minutes ago, Yaya_in_Oz said:

    Seriously, I just think the bigger the ship the more life rafts they probably have and there would be almighty chaos on the Icon if passengers did have to abandon ship in any sort of hurry. if you are in a suite to do get first choice of life boat?


    Icon of the Seas would be unsinkable, rendering any lifeboats or rafts necessary only to comply with current laws.

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