marinewife67

People are so obsessed with finding out how to stiff workers. 

OMG so sorry, people are so ignorant and bigots are out there quite frankly. We haven’t gotten those remarks but I don’t wear hijab. Those kinds of things have gotten worse in this country over the past 2 years unfortunately.

 

 

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It's terrible! We're afraid to travel, even within the US. We live in a relatively tolerant area, but people are so racist and brazen nowadays.

We've cruised Royal and Carnival. On our last Royal cruise a guy got in my face and yelled at me that I was a terrorist (I am Muslim and wear a hijab) in front of my daughter. The cruise line actually handled it very well, but it was scary. As far as Carnival though I haven't really noticed anything.

Poor you.

I love World of Warcraft and play every day for about 2 hours. But I found reading CC more addictive. :o

Pfft. Overwatch is where it's at .

We had loud people on the balcony next to ours last year playing a very loud DVD.

I put YouTube music on my phone and selected Vera Lynn White Cliffs of Dover what we usually play at home for MILs dementia.

After about 30 seconds of my awful voice singing along (lol)they grunted something and turned off their DVD and we never saw or heard from them again.

I like your style. I'd do the same, but I'd pick something more obnoxious, like tunak tunak tun (any 90s kid will know)

Some people need to cut the sodium out of their personality, because these cruises already see enough salt.

We are going on a Norway cruise with Hurtigruten next year. My parents did their South America/Antarctica cruise last year and loved it. 200 pax ship, great service and food, and educational lectures and immersive experiences. I can't wait to try them for Norway!

I get this sentiment. But you are blurring lines of distinction that are critical here. A fellow customer being abusive towards an employee is an issue between that customer and the business for the employer to handle. The LAST thing that is going to help is to have another customer get involved. This is virtually guaranteed to escalate the situation. This would be something that I as an employer would find to be in NO WAY helpful.

I wholeheartedly disagree, but we've made both of our points and I think it would just be beating a dead horse. I do respect what you have to say.

Atmna lk ywma tyba!

I'm on vacation and have no desire to correct the behavior of another person unrelated to me if I am not being personally effected by it. I have seen verbal and physical fights on shore while on vacation and will not intervene. It's not my problem. I have not desire to get into a physical conflict with another person which can easily result. A lot of the above incidents also involve the abuse of alcohol, and I do not which to spend vacation time correcting the behavior of drunks. This is always a lost cause. Instead, we should look at banning or controlling the distribution of alcohol on ships.

The problem with the "not my problem" attitude is that it's far more pervasive than just snotty behavior at the dinner table. Acting indifferent when you see someone being treated poorly, in any aspect of your life, on the grounds that it's not affecting YOU personally, is just as bad. People want the world to be a better place, and one of the ways we can do that on an individual level is to stand up for people out of the goodness of our hearts and by doing what is right.

Sometimes helping isn't helping. In doing so, you have now potentially given an irrational person another perceived target for his or her ire. This rarely helps to calm the situation.

There's diplomatic ways of doing it and still being very vocal. I won't apologize for not being complacent.

The ping doesn't support Overwatch, and if it can't support Overwatch, I don't think it would support Fortnite.

I would be very vocal and defend the staff. I am not silent in the face of injustice.

I wouldn't even worry about "sales" since it's all a marketing gimmick. Just book things at the price level you're willing to pay. :)

I won't knock the OP for being annoyed, the hard upsell IS annoying. I will say that the call center employees have certain QA (quality assurance) criteria that they have to meet, and sales is one of them. If they don't try to sell you a product during every phone call, they get dinged by QA. That's how most call centers work (I have a nephew that works for AT&T and my friend's daughter works for Comcast) and they all have some level of upselling requirements. Just something to bear in mind when you call in and get a persistent agent.

Not sure what your problem is?

Has someone from Britain upset you in the past and is that why you are being derogative by calling a person who is living in the UK "the Brit"?

Or is it because people working in the UK pay higher taxes, that in the US, but get free health care?

Again allow me to repeat that " Not everyone who lives in the UK is British". If you are not intelligent enough, by now, to have figured out that I only live in the UK and I'm not British that's your problem.

Sad to say that a lot of Americans don't realize this...it's embarrassing.

This kind of issue is a catch-22 for the cruise line. If they do nothing, people rabble about the cruise line not enforcing the rules for the children. If they enforced the rules every time and actually did something about it, you'll have parents descend on RCI with their lawyers saying their precious child would NEVER do x/y/z, that the cruise line had no right to tell them what to do or what not to do, how dare they, etc etc.

Husband will usually wear slacks, I wear a black dress with a colorful hijab. That being said, who wants to spend their vacation policing people? What are you going to do, go up to them and say you can't wear that? Do people have NOTHING better to do with their time than obsess over what someone else looks like? It's pathetic.

I'm within eyesight of the Hyatt House currently, it's a really nice hotel .

The internet and 4K TV has convinced me of that. I wanted to do the Hood to Coast run back when I was capable. Someday.

 

 

Don't some Alaska cruise start in Seattle or the area? That would be one way to cross off two states.

They sure do!

I hope you beat all that rain. I have 5 left to get to. Alaska, Wash, Oregon, Idaho, and North Dakota. I can't talk my Sun Goddess wife into Alaska.

As a native to the PNW, who has traveled many places, I can tell you that OR and WA are gorgeous, especially along the coast and in cities like Portland and Seattle. You can't beat it.

I'd like to see some Ninkasi or Hop Valley!

And it hurts who?

One's character.

This is capitalism and the cruise line is doing what they can to make money. Why should we be surprised?

A bigger question is where are the additional personnel going to be housed. Crew housing capacity is one of the fundamental limits that the cruise lines have to deal with. Add more security personnel, means removing some personnel used for another function.

 

Bottom line is "THERE IS NO REASON TO", the cruise ships are safer then most towns in the US. Yet are all of you posting somewhere that your town needs more police, that they should be monitoring cameras on all the streets in your town.

 

This was a single event, that occurred years ago, yet people are acting like it is an everyday event.

 

Crime does occur on cruise ships, but at very low levels. The level of enforcement in place is reasonable for the level or risk. It is already higher then most hotels or land based resorts, and certainly much higher than is in place in the towns in which we live.

Actually there's pretty substantial evidence that cruise lines are seeing an increase in sexual assaults.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40533120/metoo-rocks-the-boat-cruise-lines-see-more-sexual-assault-reports-in-2017

Wow, quite a few responses since I posted this.

Here's where I stand:

There are so many factors here to consider as far as who is at fault for "ancillary blame" with regards to the lawsuit, whether it's the parents for not knowing their child was out, the cruise line for applying too much alcohol or not monitoring cameras, etc etc. The takeaway, however, should be that sexual harassment or assault IS NEVER OKAY. As far as the whole keychain thing, that is appalling, and just chalking it up to "boys will be boys" is a disgusting and outdated response. If nothing else, that boy's parents need to be teaching him to be respectful and that no girl owes him anything. That being said, what the girl's father did was inexcusable and he needs hard time for it. His actions were completely unjustified and not the victim's fault. As far as the cruise line is concerned, I think it will, and should, at least be a learning experience to prevent this from happening again.