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You tip anyone that helps you. Normally I take lyft and I bring my luggage on board to avoid any issues with the porters. First since I have priority check in I can go directly to my cabin and put the luggage inside. No chance of losing my luggage or having my luggage tags cut off. The atmosphere at the luggage drop off has changed....it was clear when our lyft dropped us off. We took our luggage directly to ship.
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Update. I am at terminal 2 for princess cruse. We got drop off at baggage drop off. The porter ran to the car. We told the porter no thanks. We took our luggage on board. Good thing because cabins ready early so we put stuff in cabins and went to lunch.
The porters move the baggage 10 feet to the bins. Based on what we read and observed we did not feel comfortable leavin our luggage. We saw others with luggage. We have a medium size luggage which fits fine . 25 or 26 inch luggage.
If your need assistance just use the porters and tip them well.
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2 hours ago, Stmar said:
I don't know about all ports at disembarkation but at Port Canaveral they stack your luggage in an area and you can pick it up and stand in a long line or you can get a porter to load all your bags on a cart and escort you through customs. Much faster and he also takes your bags to your pick up point, in our case we had parked our vehicle and we drove it to a pick up point to get our luggage and other passengers. It was worth a tip to me, don't know if $10 was enough, like I said I thought the other guy was going to add to it.
Not the same issue. Your tipping to expedite service from the terminal. That is ok. My issue is when you arrive at cruise line your tip determines if your bags get on board with tags and not damaged. Some folks may think the daily tip or port cruise tax pays for this service. It does not. The porters are middle men. If your luggage is lost the cruise line will not be able to help you since there is no luggage tracking like at airport. If your tags are missing because you did not tip enough then you have to go after the porters. The porters not the cruise line have full control of your luggage. Only when it reaches the inside of the ship does the cruise line take over. Since there is no tracking...What's your proof.
At long beach they wanted money to get my bags on board. It's not a tip but demand for payment. Instead the porters should post signs with price to put your luggage on ship. Everyone should pay the same amount if porters tear off tags for low tips. Low is relative
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I never see any porters in the luggage area . I just grab my luggage and go. Last time I brought my luggage on board and off the ship myself since the porters were demanding payment before I boarded.
I will not tip any demanding porter or porter with a bad attitude enough to screw with ur luggage. Perhaps porters could wear arm bands. Red means they need 5 dollars per bag. Green would be 3 dollars per bag and yellow for 1-2 per cruise line recommended bag tip. You can of course give more. That market forces. Maybe the yellow and green bands get more business. Seems fair. Then no porter could complain about tips. Problem solved.
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22 hours ago, Kingofcool1947 said:
Huh?..
“For 300 bucks that does sense unless your filthy rich.”
What are you trying to say?
“Also you could go to 99 cent store and buy and use and donate clothes. Then you have nothing to drag. Or take old clothes use abd dump”
Are you suggesting to wear used clothes on your cruise?
King
No. Pack lite. Buy new clothes on trip.
300 bucks pay for new clothes versus paying 300 to ship your used clothes.
Unless your going to a wedding on board you can pack lite. Now I know ladies want to dress nice for formal nights and bring a ton of shoes. That does not work well with packing lite. However you can find thin dress clothes. Or buy a nice dress in foreign country and wear that.
Most travel advisors recommend carryon size. Easy to store if needed. Easy to move. Will not get lost by airlines or cruise ship.
If I had a dollar for every time I seen folks with lost luggage at airport or cruise ship....I be a millonaire.
The rule is not if your luggage will be lost....it's when....
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What..it be cheaper to have backpack with minor clothes and buy new clothes on your voyage. Buy a duffle bag for trip home. For 300 bucks that does sense unless your filthy rich.
Also you could go to 99 cent store and buy and use and donate clothes. Then you have nothing to drag. Or take old clothes use abd dump
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Yeap. ...I told my wife we going to bring on board as well so we using a smaller luggage. Just want to avoid the porter drama and any chance of lost of luggage (Porter or ship crew). A bit of hassle but far less risk. I figure next cruise would have close to 4500 pieces of luggage and some will get screwed up...damaged...lost...theft. figure I eat and when done my room be open. Maybe 1 hour inconvenience.
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33 minutes ago, foflocruiser said:
Hello,
They are NOT Port Employees. The cruise lines hire a stevedoring company, the stevedoring company hires the stevedores/longshoremen/porters. Local ILA 1526
Interesting....that explains why I see so many comments like the one below. If you have a problem you contact the cruise company..they then direct you to stevedoring. Thats where it ends.
At Miami last week, they use little phrases like I hope you appreciate all the work I am doing for you. When that occurs run away...if you dont tip enough...your hosed like below cruise critic comments. Unless there is adequate supervision, you have to be careful which porter you get. We will see at our next port,
However, we are packing medium bags just in case we need to bring it on board ourselves. Its a bit of a hassle but actually guarantees delivery. I bring my carry on to plane as well. The hassle is we have to bring it up to the food deck and get our food and bring it down to our room at 1:30 when it opens. Since not much is happening on the ship we can put our stuff away,
I will not tip any porter that would do anything to someones luggage. I can pick up a bad vibe in less than 2 minutes from anyone. If someone rushes to your car to help you...thats a bad sign. The porters are rushing to fight over tips.
So why dont they mandate using all porters at Airlines....because of the airline rule.,....Have you been in possession of your luggage at all times.
We had our luggage tags ripped off once. We did not know why ....but after reading this forum....Now I know. Some folks may think the tips are included since your port taxes pay for the porters. And some folks might think the porters are cruise line staff where your daily fee is used to tip them. At our recent trip at Long Beach, the Porter said if you want your luggage on board you have to pay us. We took it on board ourselves.
For me, charge me more for the cruise. Pay the porters the extra money. Eliminate tipping and eliminate porters fighting over tips. Thats the true cruise experience from beginning to end. You never open up your wallet. So a cruise that costs 1500 bucks...just charge 1510 and give the 10 to the porters. That's there tip. Why is that so hard to do. They get paid if they do or do not take your luggage. No abuse...no reason to tear tags...no anger...
"We tipped the porter in Port Everglades and one of our suitcases was slashed and ruined. I guess we didn't tip enough!
Kathleen
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Hey. That porter got u front of the line pass. Tip is a no issue. That is performance. Same as taking luggage out of car and rolling to terminal.
Perhaps the porters that cut tags did a huge service and we're not tipped. Still wrong but if you make the porter work hard and you don't tip then it's your fault.
Normally, we rolled our luggage to the terminal baggage bin area. The bin are like 3 feet away. Most folks are told to dump luggage and someone will come by and load it into a bin. No porter assistance is needed.
You cannot do that at long beach pay enough or pray your luggage gets on board
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1 minute ago, Colo Cruiser said:
Yeah I want to unpack before 6pm.
Why does there have to be a reason?
You sound angry.
If on my last cruise a few days ago the porter try to shake us down in front of our family to get our luggage on board. Basically, he said if you want your luggage on board you better pay up. Wow...yeah...pretty pissed off.
I though it was just me...or perhaps I am overstating what occurred.....until I hit this forum...and I am just shocked at what has occurred to other passengers. I dont mind tipping but extortion is a different situation. Its not the money...5 bucks is nothing...its the shakedown for the money by highly paid porters who are also paid from my port taxes.
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1 minute ago, Colo Cruiser said:
Huh?
the reason is why you take it on board yourself....unless you have 5000 bucks worth of camera equipment....there is a reason
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On 10/20/2015 at 3:38 PM, IECalCruiser said:
Carry-on bags for airplanes are limited by the size of the carry-on bins on the planes, not the airport scanners. The scanners at almost every port are large enough to handle 28" or 29" bags or even larger. Even so, in Vancouver they used the airport sizing frame and if the bag was too large you were forced to go back to the curb and check the bag with the porters. The scanners could handle much larger bag but that was the rule at the port.
Perfect. We bringing our medium bag so we be ok....I thought those scanners only took the 22 inch airplance carryons...I know they got a couple of inches either way. We might bring our luggage on board. Its a hassle but we dont have to deal with porters who will cut our tags unless we tip at least 5 dollars a bag (yes...I know that sounds crazy). What we end up doing is going to lunch and then run to the room the first 2nd its open. that way we put everthing away early and not worry like sometimes getting the luggage at 6pm. Bad enough you have lost luggage due to non porter issues ....worse if you also have porter that would cut tags. At Long Beach we always bring our luggage on board....if you seen the porters there...you would too.
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On 10/20/2015 at 12:13 PM, Colo Cruiser said:
We have carried ours on many times at many different ports, we have never had issues with the size of the xray, and we carry large 29" bags.
If there is an issue they will take it and check it.
Or really....29 goes through....great....Do you take it on to avoid the Porters shaking your down for money or just to avoid it getting lost?
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Everyone has missed the point I have been trying to make. It's not tipping anymore if the porter would screw with your luggage. The fact you say I pay 5 dollars a bag to make sure it goes on board is not a tip but a additional insurance policy again porters who rip off your tags if you don't tip enough. It's like here is some money please don't rip off my tags. Your paying before service is performed and if you don't pay enough you get a penalty. Not a tip if porters act that way. I cringe when I hear what's another 5 or 10 bucks to make sure your vacation is not spoiled. Wow..sounds like extortion. ..not tip. By the way I don't mindd paying extortion just so long as it's not a tip. I won't tip anyone who remove luggage tags but I would pay extortion fee to prevent removal.
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11 hours ago, Optotronics said:
Actually, our luggage could carried by the cruise tag and won't tear off.
do your research and you can find the starting pay grade of the local ILA-1526 longshoreman; you too would see well they are well taken care of and would not risk tearing any labels or pulling stunts that could cost them their career.
Really....you dont know how unions work. The porter would have to seen peeing on your luggage in full site of 1000 people with video and even then he probably would not lose his job. Obviously he smart enough not to do it everytime. Do you think Cool Cruiser comments about all 5 luggages not having tags is a lie. I had my tags removed and seen other luggages with tags removed and wonder how that could happen when I use a very strong tag reinforced.
The trick is to find the right porter. Someone happy...looks kind. One does not have a grudge because his wife left him....
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2 hours ago, PrincessLuver said:
That's what we tip too ($5.00 a bag) and have never had a problem with our luggage anywhere and it always gets to our room in a very timely manner.....plus it makes them happy!!!
Of course you had no problem. You paid the insurance fee to make sure they dont rip off your luggage tags. They control your luggage so pay up or go without luggage. Its not a tip. You pay for future service when most tips are paid based on past performance. Like I said...its insurance, not a tip. Your luggage could still get loss though. The insurance is too make sure the porter does nothing to your luggage.
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On 3/14/2018 at 11:04 AM, Optotronics said:
I agree, they are not going to risk their high paid union jobs by not doing what they are paid to do.
Its easy to rip off a tag without risking your job. Just pickup the luggage by the tag...and its gone. It will always look like a mistake
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On 2/25/2018 at 3:58 PM, pasto5 said:
We had our luggage tags ripped off both suitcases because apparently we did not tip enough in Miami. There was a sign posted saying tips were not required. We had 5 luggage tags disappear and it delayed our luggage delivery considerably.
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Yeap ....same thing happen to me. We saw the not tip sign and honor it. The porter rip off our tags. We got our luggage after we had to verify it. How big can you luggage be so you can carry it on board in case I see a porter with a mean attitude.
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Tipping the porters is an insurance policy so they don't remove your luggage tags if you dont tip depending upon the porter. Some are just mean. I know for a fact. If you can find a nice one...go ahead and tip. At long beach the porter made it clear. If you want your luggage on the boat....pay up. Did that in front of my family. We took the luggage on board ourselves.
Dont take a chance. Pay the porter the protection money. Its not a tip. Its an insurance policy that they wont rip your tags off.
How do I know....they took our tags off. Apparently despite the signs saying do not tip...that did not work for this porter. I dragged my own luggage right in front of the bins. I thought the no tipping sign was a cruise thing since I did prepay tips...apparently not.
Unless I see a happy porter or can see enough cruise folks that are supervising the porters...I have to drag my luggage on board.
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My tags where remove from luggage. We thought the tipping was part of our daily tip the cruise takes each day. We thought they were carnival employees. Since they cut our tags we had to go down to lost luggage area to identify the luggage. Pretty sad
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Reading other posts on this site I read some pretty bad stories. Common theme for poor tips is lost of luggage tags including your cabin tags. Nice.
On my next trip if I can sense any extortion, I will reluctantly bring my luggage on board. Good thing it won't get lost and also sometimes we waited until 6pm to get our luggage delivered.
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On 2/29/2016 at 12:56 PM, irishgal432 said:
My husband dropped off the bags and didn't have money since we got separated. Lo and behold my son and his friend had no luggage at 8. We went to guest services and there they were without luggage tags.
thanks....wow....just What I thought. Cant you deliver the bags directly to the baggage area?
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29 minutes ago, DAllenTCY said:
In front of me on my desk is a photo of a porter who passed away 5 years ago. He was the nicest porter I've ever worked with in my job as a shoreside employee (now 14 years). His name is John Shaw.
On the other hand....plus 50+ cruises I've taken....(and having worked part time in POM and FLL)....not even the surliest Miami porter can top the rude behavior of those longshoremen in the Port of Los Angeles in San Pedro.
I've overheard some of the conversations that they've offered arriving guests......and they can be very intimidating . In some cases they will just walk away and leave your bags on the curb ....while cussing you out. Eventually the porter boss will instruct one to load them but who wants to start a vacation in that manner?
I wonder if anyone in the ILWU gives a hoot.....and... as a fact, there is nothing that the cruise lines can do about it.
Yes, I agree that it these guys work long and hard....with a lunch break....and $25-42/hr.....and full medical/retirement benefits.
Apparently many of them now think $1/bag is inadequate.
David
Thank you. My point I was trying to make. I know I am not the only one.
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26 minutes ago, thedeadman said:
I just came back from 3 day cruise. The porters basically wanted money to get your luggage on board. Period. This is the truth, Now, they wont say they wont take it but he was so hostile that we could not take a chance and had to bring our luggage on board. I am going to be calling carnival tomorrow. We took another 3 day cruise months before and the same thing happened. The only difference is the porters at this cruise looked like my luggage would never reach the ship. At other ports, a totally different experience. They were excited to take our luggage and get it on board safe and sound with not even a hint of wanting money.
A note to carnival. Raise the price of the cruise and higher your own baggage folks. I pay the higher price. Unless you like them to shake down your customers before they board. Note there was no place for me to put the luggage on the bins or hand it over to a carnival staff to take.
Tipping Porters at Port Everglades?
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If you bypass the porters and put it on the bins you probably piss off the porter. The 5 dollars is insurance.
Lots of folks directly bring their luggage on board. No need to hand your luggage to a Non cruise line employee. After rolling my luggage across the nation I can rolled it into my cabin just like I do for hotel room. No way lose ur luggage or it gets put in front of wrong cabin. Now if it was a cruise employee...that's different situation.