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thanks ~ what helps is that expedited processing is now 2-3 weeks instead of 6-8 weeks like it was last year and if there was any hiccup with a 6-8 week timeline, she would definitely would have been without a passport in time to fly ! and I knew England would have let her into the country with her old passport with 5 months validity.... hence my hesitation to renew ..... but 2-3 weeks processing time + overnight mailing is easy peasy .... so that's the way we'll go .....

must be a different website than listed above https://www.usa.gov/renew-adult-passport 1st screenshot below then i go to https://pptform.state.gov/passportwizardmain.aspx 2nd screenshot - "which says fill out online and then print" second page says: - This form filler tool is not an online passport application. - Instead, the form filler allows you to electronically enter your data and print a paper form with a barcode unique to the data entered. Once you electronically complete your answers and print the form, you will then submit the form by mail, or in person, depending on the form type. (DS-82 and DS-5504 forms by mail; DS-11 form in person) what am i missing ? thank y'all !

thanks - just checked and it's temporarily suspended ? like all things with the government, just when it makes sense, someone bad comes along and ruins it for the rest of us !!!! 😏😉

well mom's at 88, I wish she has at least another 10 and she outlives her new passport !! 😎

Thanks all for the quick replies. Here are my takeaways ... - Princess makes up rules that do not necessarily follow governmental requirements because they can for whatever reason, as long as they are not more lenient than government rules and in general, the 6 month rule + visas are probably the most common strict denominator (although Princess can't demand a visa if the country doesn't issue any !) - even there is no "departure date + 6 month" rule for UK and Ireland, and England/UK will have already legitimately admitted my mom into the country when we fly in to London and embark the ship, Princess can decide to refuse her entry onto the ship if she doesn't conform to the "departure date + 6 month rule" - although the Princess agent said to call CIBT for guidance, I can see that CIBT's interest is in getting money to do passport and visa processing, so they are probably going to quote me the same thing as Princess (departure date + 6 month rule) just to take my money, so not only will I not waste my time with CIBT, nor will I waste my time to find out if this advice was worthwhile in the first place by calling another Princess agent - My brother had to do an expedited passport renewal last year and it caused a great deal of anxiety, but in the end, the US government did deliver on its 2-3 week commitment (phew !). Had this not been the case, I would be even less willing to go this route because she would then have NO passport available (🤞they don't lose the passport during processing ! For sure i will take photos before sending it in) - in the interest of looking at the big picture and not having a vacation ruined over $200 when we're spending way more than that for the holiday, I'll have mom go to the post office tomorrow to start the process for this reason and the reason above Sometimes it's not worth fighting for what's right ! but better to look at the big picture. I hope this information is helpful to others. Thank you all for taking the time to give me your perspectives and guide me toward the right decision for us in this case. I appreciate your help.

updated to include mom's passport info

ooooooops ! sorry - US passport; will edit the question ... thanks !!! and thanks for the points guy link and airline info .. will check them out .....

first, thanks all for your expertise; been lurking for a while and hope to contribute more in the future as I cruise more ! QUESTION: UK and Ireland cruise - starts in UK, stops in Ireland, ends in UK - Mom will have about 5 months validity on her passport on her arrival in England and about 4.5 upon her departure from England (flying in and out of London) - UK and Ireland governments only require valid passport through planned departure (which she will have as we are flying in and out of London) - At almost 90, thinking her international travel days may be ending (hopefully not!) so would prefer to not get a new passport under rush conditions whose rule regarding 6 month passport validity after planned departure applies - Princess or national government immigration / visit rules (which does not have a 6 month rule) ? I'm trying to reach CIBT, but I think they are more motivated to get you to use their emergency services than to observe national regulations We're not in compliance according to Princess' month rule, but since we are starting the cruise in England and she got into the country just fine, does the UK rule apply ?? Does anyone have a definitive source of information which i can quote and print for embarkation staff (website, Princess procedures, etc) rather than conjecture ? I'd rather not have her denied boarding in Southampton over a couple of hundred bucks, but if there is no risk, I'd rather skip the fire drill to get a rush passport done .... thanks all for your knowledge and sharing !!