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  1. As much I tend to agree with you on giving "the talented folk" a chance to mess up the utilities in the staterooms, I am wondering - what was wrong with the old glass top oval tables of the S class? Now we have an ingenious design of flip-over plastic cheap IKEA table, that a)cannot be lifted by the top to move it (because the top obviously is detached from the three-prong leg podium), and b)why would I need to flip it with handles up in the first place?! What is the use of those handles to be flipped up and down? At least on the part of this odd piece and even more odd socket box - I believe the talented folk have dreamt too much and too long... Sorry, I did not mean to be disrespectful on your account, I just got flipped like that IKEA table...
  2. I know that my post will not be met with cheers that are quite popular in this Edge thread. But I feel that in a few weeks many of you would notice the things that I am going to write about, and would agree with me. Whoever designed the Edge staterooms, is a hotel designer, NOT a cruise ship stateroom designer. Inside the cruise ship, it is all about the SPACE, storage plus horizontal space to put your stuff on. Edge staterooms – regular, not the suites – do look like a European hotel, where people drop their bags for a couple of nights without unpacking, go around the town, eat out, sleep, and then keep going. The “sleek” design that X is touting and promoting, and that some of you have mentioned as a fresh gulp of air, is good for such “Eurotels”… but personally, I am disappointed. Please do not take me wrong. I am totally happy with modern design, colors (to a certain point) and layout (how one could mess the fleet-accepted positioning of 4-5 main furniture pieces?!). I am not happy at all with spacing. I was still unclear about the real look of the stateroom, because my impressions were mostly based on renderings, but once the detailed USA Today photo report appeared, I feel that X took a step back in designing the Edge. Again, I am sure many of you would disagree but I just want to voice my opinion, and I bet some of you will change their mind once they hear what I have to say. Cruise ship stateroom space is precious, and Edge’s stateroom wastes this space - obviously. I give you several examples. 1. Ugly – cannot say this in a different way – socket box. Whoever came with this idea, has to be fired. It eats a lot of space and it is a sore spot for an eye, no matter how you look at it. It looks odd as it is (empty),but now try to imagine multiple wires “octopussing” out of it… and you can’t keep anything atop of it, because eventually you would need to disconnect and re-use the adapters docked inside. What was wrong with keeping the sockets on the side of the “storage isle”, as it is on S series ships? Why it had to be moved on the top of the drawer/fridge unit? Beats me… 2. The closet is far smaller than on S ships, particularly due to the curvature where the useless niche sits – in renderings, there was either a vase or a coral placed, but I’d rather have there a couple of corner shelves for keeping small things like sunglasses or binoculars etc. 3. Why would one change the glass door-covered shelves in the bathroom (on S ships) with the open ones, without even small rails, like it is accustomed on the ships EVERYWHERE, to protect your stuff of falling down on the rough seas… 4. Many of us have already sighed about the pullout vanity desk – this is a cheap and definitely not a smart decision, because you CANNOT store anything on it, it has to be tucked in during the day to give space forgoing around the bed. I like to keep my laptop on the desk. DW likes to keep her makeup bags on the vanity desk. Stationary desk of S ships was good enough for that. Where this has to go now - on the "octopussy box"? 5. Where did the glass top small table of S ships go? Where the room service tray would land – that pitiful trunk-alike “chair” won’t hold it, and the balcony table has side handles popping up, so the standard room service tray will not fit there – unless Edge would have a special ones, but then you all know that even a standard hotel room service tray is about 2 ft wide… 6. Balcony “chairs” are a joke – what happened to good, sturdy, reclining S ship balcony lounge chairs? Yes, I got an idea of using these new ones inside the stateroom, but come on, they look even cheaper than IKEA-made, and just imagine trying to “sit back and relax” in those! Watch out for those backs! 7. Overall lack of HORIZONTAL space in the Edge stateroom is obvious – and yet the hotel designers still placed a relatively big table lamp on the chest of drawers. Why not just adding a sconce on the wall? (somebody already had mentioned this before, and it is really an obvious choice... but not for a “Eurotel”!) 8. There is a very strange positioning of a/c outlet, at least on the photos posted by the USA Today - I feel there is a cheap solution for alternating the couch and the bed (by the balcony or by the closet), but this observation needs more feedback from you “first-goers” – please pay attention to that. What I mean is that is looks like the position of the air ducts is fixed (next to the closet), so if your bed is there – next to the closet– then the a/c ducts are right above you, while for those who have beds at the balcony, will have the ducts will be over the couch. Not sure how this would affect the feel of the airflow, but again, recall that on S ships they are located over the closet, and therefore the airflow goes from the deeper end of the stateroom to the balcony. There are a few other small things that I have noticed… However, the ones above are those I PERSONALLY feel would not be well accepted by me. I like the new design of the Edge a lot, I just think that the staterooms could have been arranged far better. But that’s me.
  3. Lloyd, this is great, I agree with your conclusion - it actually is connected in sort of a Moebius loop... DW is very excited to try it. I am very impressed with the design approach - a lot of twists and curves and smooth transitions everywhere, including jogging track, Eden, pool area, etc. On other note, recent photos still show that there is quite a bit of work left to be done. Finishing touches take a lot of time... I am wondering if they could finish as promised. Surely, they will leave interior areas closed for passengers until the last bell, but still...
  4. DW and I tried hard to figure it out - she is an avid jogger... It appears that the jogging track has no loop - at least it seems so from the artistic expressions available so far. There will be incline from the pool deck leading to the upper deck; it then wraps around almost to complete the loop but ends in an awkwardly looking (at least that's what we've figured using strong magnification of the ship's image) round - I guess joggers will make a turn on it and run back. Very unusual idea, if we guessed correctly, but we liked the incline/decline of the track. Perhaps Lloyd has real pics of the top deck???
  5. I tend to disagree with some of your otherwise excellent points, Kearney. Tendering would NEVER be an easy or a pleasant experience unless you are on a ship carrying only a few hundred pax. Windstar (who at some point was btw stopping at Saba - that's how I visited that island) or perhaps Crystal (who makes regular stops there this season) are those where tendering would be less painful. The issue is not much the comfort or the boat, it is its capacity and frequency of shuttling plus the distance from the pier. Local authorities allow only this much of lifeboats to be used by the cruise ship for tendering, and the bottleneck in tendering is still the ticketing system and waiting time. Recall how much time you spent onboard waiting in line (if you really need to go ashore early for private excursion) vs the actual tendering time... Of course, if you are in the suites or bought ship tour or have a status that lets you beat the lines (I am Elite Plus, this helps a bit) - then it is easier, but still would be neither pleasant nor easy even with magic carpet and new boats... Better - perhaps. Saba is a sleeping small piece of the rock - there is nothing there to offer to us cruise folks, there is only ONE beach, which is washed on and off depending on the wind/waves, and 3-4 tiny villages that do not have anything typical for other cruise meccas. There is a school of medicine, and the only reason to have it there - as I figured - is that students would have no nightlife or other distractions ...
  6. I am not sure why it happens, but apparently either when the sea is calm or when there is an overwhelming number of the ships in the port, they allow to use the ship's tenders (there could be up to 8 ships at one day over there!). One of the reasons that they claim for using tenders overall is that the fringe coral reef comes too close to the shore and they don't want the ships to get docked, thus to speed up the tendering process they offer to use larger (~200 pax) local boats. I also saw an interesting suggested project on GC where they consider building remote docking piers - on a distance from the shore - and use cable cars to ship passengers to the shore from those docks...
  7. the pool is long and deep - compare the depth of it with the height of the guy walking near it on the last pic...
  8. Grand Cayman is known for rough winds and bad weather that could hit in a jiffy. I've been tendered there twice, both times it was done by a local tendering company, which uses sturdy tender boats, wider and longer than your typical lifeboats from the ships that are normally used in other ports for tendering - I believe this is because of the rough waves near the Georgetown. Twice (!) the stop at GC was cancelled, last time we even circled a few times near the Georgetown but eventually took off. Tendering service could get delayed well in the afternoon, again because of the weather. With all this in mind, I am wondering how efficient - and how safe! - will be MC when lowered to serve as a tender pad while stopped in GC. This is the only port where I 've seen people had tough times to get on the tender boat. Not saying that it is dangerous to do tendering in GC, but certainly it is best to be ready.
  9. As far as it is known to the cruising public, in Grand Cayman ALL SHIPS have to use the local tenders - big two-deck flat tenders that could host about 200 pax. I imagine that smaller ships can use their own if they are of the Windstar size, but all Celebrity ships for years have used locals
  10. This piece was done far back by some obscure group called PINK FLOYD...... :p:p
  11. This is what I was saying... There was NOT "too many" Elites onboard, and the hostess was saying that this is only an "experiment" for 2-3 ships... Weird but I felt a bit odd, particularly since I had an unfortunate incident with cognac (see my review)
  12. Totally agree - last time on Silhouette (May-June 2018) they invented "three strikes" rule - instead of having unlimited drinks during happy hour, there was only three drinks allowed during 5 to 7 in the evening. Not that I wanted to booze myself "to the Edge" but this was clearly an attempt to control the free alcohol leakout, and I wouldn't say that there were a lot of Captain's Club members on that cruise...
  13. Anybody knows already - how the Elite Captain's Club members will be perked on Edge??? How different this will be - if any - compared to "common" Celebrity ships? Any rumors?
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