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2 hours ago, Janet76 said:

CCL was not prepared financially for this.  RCL and NCL same boat. 

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CCL/balance-sheet?p=CCL

 

 

Not many businesses have the ability to return 3-6 month deposits. Assets an cash on hand are different .

If your FCC is posted on HAL website i cant find it My agent says the first one is credited under our mariner number.

Originally i would been on the Westerdam cruising Japan . Then we were supposed to be going to the Airport  today on the way  to Barcelona to meet the N Amsterdam to Venice . I am planing a fall cruise but for now I’m taking a wait and see attitude . Not so sure travel will even be allowed. The travel restrictions will be lifted last. I read EU will be closed to visitors till September . Might have a better idea in a month .

17 minutes ago, Nymich said:

They need to hold onto the money right now as long as possible.  Waiting myself.

I saw a news report that the credit card companies don’t what that many refund transactions. With all the refunds from the amazingly amount of travel refunds. That is the main reason refunds are slower .

42 minutes ago, nyceve said:

I am booked on BTB cruises on Nieuw Statendam beginning on April 19th to Amsterdam, then May 10, RT Amsterdam.

 

I have Platinum insurance.  I have sent countless unanswered emails to everyone I could possibly think of at HAL.  Today, I sent an email to Guest Relations.  I have not received a single response or email from anyone at HAL. I have not even received an email informing me of the official cancellation of the April 19th cruise. It's as if I don't exist.

 

I am sad to say, but it is clear HAL wants to do everything in its power to delay refunds as long as possible.  We have paid close to $20,000 for the two cruises.

 

It seems that I paid for very expensive Platinum insurance (cancel for any reason) for no reason, since I have not even had a single acknowledgement of all the emails I've sent asking about my Platinum insurance coverage.

 

I have read plenty of threads here and elsewhere about Carnival possibly having to file for bankruptcy. The equally important issue is, how do these companies think they will continue to keep us as loyal cruisers which such atrocious treatment now?

you should be able to reuse your insurance on replacement cruise . Your insurance should not be  how you are refunded. The insurance would have only been 90 percent should be 100 percent.

1 hour ago, HappyInVan said:

At the moment, I'm not that pessimistic. Germany has finally stepped up social restrictions. Most European nations are in lock down. Might peak in Europe by late April. Might reduce most social and travel restrictions by June/July.

 

The citizen is the most factor during this time. The iron discipline to avoid infecting each other. The social distancing and personal hygiene. To learn to wear a mask the moment you feel symptoms coming on.

 

The Asians have already acquired the etiquette. Westerners will have to learn.

 

Cruising will be annoying. The repeated thermal inspections. The possibility of self-isolation and missed ports. IN effect, the first cruises might just be days at sea.

 

 

 

 

First we need to be able to purchase masks .

HAL is really slow at making decisions as are most of the other cruise lines . Have canceled every thing exempt the cruise part on our April 17th . They seem to think its still a possibility . The Airline cancelled the flight yet HAL is doing nothing . My guess is July 1st at the earliest . Pretty sure though if not by next spring the existing companies will not be around without a 50 -100 billion dollar bail out. 

1 minute ago, Rnmomof03 said:

We are scheduled on the 4/29/20 cruise to Alaska out of Vancouver.  I have been trying to be patient and give them time to sort all of this out.  Have been on here several times and read suggestions about waiting til we are closer.  However, as I am reading about people's experiences, deadlines, etc with further out dates, I AM SUPER NERVOUS, as I have heard NOTHING from Holland America.  No email, no nothing.  Can anyone tell me what my options are.  Guess I'll be calling later?

Im thinking there are overwhelmed I'm waiting as well for information. When they canceled Asia  i received a email right away . With all thats happened i would think there is no way they will have enough money available to offer every one refunds without government help. I rebooked the Mediterranean so i'm in the same boat financially . Hope they get enough help to remain viable.

9 hours ago, rafinmd said:

I'm not sure what the technical distinction is but when QM2 sailed from Fremantle to Southampton with just a handful of passengers she declared she was sailing not as a cruise ship but as a merchant ship.  Don't really know if there's a legal distinction there or if it was just to bring home the reality of the situation to those remaining pax who were declared medically unable to fly, that the services would be VERY limited.

 

If it is a real legal distinction, Westerdam should clearly qualify as a merchant ship and not a cruise ship.

 

Roy

The last i heard Mexico has the virus why would anyone think they would allow passengers ? I’m really  hoping  to get our closed business is open in 30 days but not holding my breath. The whole thing is terrible and i hope they are doing the right thing. I would think  they would let them dock . It would be less expensive to wait there than Juno.

Never bought Holland America insurance . I do Think it’s usually a cheque as the business  is separate from the cruise line. What good would the insurance be if it was invalid if the cruise line went into  bankruptcy .

1 hour ago, CruiserBruce said:

Businesses, particularly large businesses have other, non-liquid assets that can be changed into cash. They commonly also have lines of credit, and lastly other avenues for borrowing. That is why many have called for lowering interest rates, so that businesses can deal with cash shortages during crises like this.

As long as they have enough assets you can always borrow. It hurts any business ours were just coming out of our two slowest months of the year. I’m sure we will lose money at least tell June. Makes it really hard to make up for a poor showing five months long. As a owner you either have to use reserves if thats not enough a cash injection is required. They are big  enough that  government assistance will come. 

2 hours ago, sevenseasnomad said:

Agree with earlier post that closing the cruise ports without also limiting in-coming flights makes no sense if the idea is to protect Canadian citizens or to limit possible exposure to the virus.  

The planes will stop on there own who wants a two week Quarantine .Anyone arriving that is what is required .

1 hour ago, Happy2cruise said:

we cancelled our 4/5 cruise 2 days ago and we charged a penalty!!!!

Thats not fare maybe they will look after you. My wife told me to cancel i told her it was to early as this a fluid situation . I was more concerned  about the money we put out for business class air. Still waiting for the flights to cancel pretty sure they will. Virus is getting out of control were its going.

9 minutes ago, albingirl said:

But, what if HAL cancels on me?  Am I out the amount of the insurance, even if they suspend April sailings?

They are letting you transfer the insurance to another cruise .It pays 100 percent when its covering for reason coverage. They need you to have some skin in the game. 

43 minutes ago, Tampa Girl said:

 

I think it is clear from Ashford's message that all cruises are cancelled.

That is after the 30 Days

11 hours ago, wyobean said:

I really hate to see people expecting extra for compensation in this situation. This is no one’s fault. I will be happy to get a FCC or refund...whatever they decide. I am just hoping they don’t have to declare bankruptcy...then you get nothing.

I agree with you FCC is fine with me we cruise  lots. Refunds for the people that want it. Airlines need to give choice as well.

I’m  wondering if it’s going to be governments forcing the issue. The cruise lines should look around and see what other venues and events with high density are doing. If they don’t act soon it’s shame on you.

I would take FCC if they Guarantee same length of cruise same categories as booked. To easy to raise prices to make up some losses . But they should get some government assistance i do think that should be from all counties that benefit from the industry.

1 hour ago, kcscrapper said:

How will this ship board in FLL?  

Americans are banned from European travel; Europeans can't get to American for the voyage.

It’s taking a chance lots of sea days things can really change in eight days. Two doctors a few nurses at least the cruise will most likely have a light passenger load. The two transatlantic cruises i have done were met at the first European by about six ambulances to remove passengers . I’m still wondering how they could do a transatlantic without a port guarantee. Although there is still time to change there plans. Europeans could fly through London doesn’t mean for sure the cruise line would allow them to board. Lots of cases in Europe . Americans can get back may require a fourteen day quarantine . As long as it stays the same as now.

Just now, Hlitner said:

You really need to read all the fine print of your insurance policy.  Look for exclusions for Pandemics or epidemics.

 

Hank

i know it does not cover but it wasn’t a pandemic yesterday. And if was the day before and if your insurances will not cover you now the cruise line is negligent if they take you into that area .

1 hour ago, darstamp said:

We were scheduled to go on the 18th as well and cancelled today.  There were 10 of us. I am so sad about it because we probably won't ever get to do the trip as it isn't being offered in spring break next year.  However, I appreciate the FCC, they didn't have to do that.  Now to tackle the airlines as we have cancellation insurance for both but we are concerned just the same that they won't give us back our money now that WHO has labelled it a pandemic.  As for Princess, it's too bad but seven people died.  They changed crew with another ship and spread it around.  I just don't believe they were careful enough.  

 

Air Canada most likely will change destinations and dates. I thought the insurance would  cover our cancellation the Westerdam Japan. So i booked a Mediterranean cruise. Changed the flights no change fee they had a agreement with the cruise line. Now when you cancel your flight i heard they insist you rebook immediately . The reason for not giving a credit to use within a year is what i would have expected. Especially with this fluid situation . 

What really concerns me is one person has it they are not letting the ship dock. I could easily stay an extra 14 days. What i don’t  want is being stuck in my room 14 days . Even if its a Neptune suit. Put in a plane then quarantined another 14 days. The ports are only going to look after them selves. If the cruise lines can’t get the ports to handle this differently cruising is not viable. We could live with having a cruise shorted by illness . That has never happened to us but you buy insurance for that. Even the medical evacuation is not being used. Love cruising 7 days at sea are okay with me but not without being pampered 

I would take FCC if they Guarantee same length of cruise same categories as booked. To easy to raise prices to make up some losses . But they should get some government assistance i do think that should be from all counties that benefit from the industry.

Im a really big Holland America fan ,but they are just delaying the inevitable . Will not be long before ports will not allow them. I hope they make the right decision and pause operations for 60 days. I love cruising but this scares hell out of me. I'm also concerned about our business that we will have to pause it. Its a big financial hit lets hope there is some government assistance .

What if there are no flights Back.