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  1. On 7/13/2021 at 4:13 PM, Minorhawk said:

    Ok...I am the OP here. I asked the question because in the 14 cruises I have taken in the past, I never had a boarding time. I did not check in earlier, because I booked the cruise only 6 days in advance. These boards used to be a place where one could ask a very honest question and get a very quick, non-judgmental response. It amazes me in the threads how quick people are to come down on others. I wasn't whining about the boarding time...I was trying to understand if this time was etched in stone because I have never seen a boarding time before. 

    Thank you to those who took time to respond to my question. To the "Keyboard Cowboys," I hope your day gets better!!

    Well said. “Keyboard cowboys”, apparently have all the wrong answers.

    For those that implied attempts at line jumping,  need to remember that those with earlier times assigned would not be denied their time.

     

    I’m reading these posts because we too are looking for advice, not snarky answers. We have a concierge luncheon that starts at 12:30pm and that’s our check in time. We will arrive a bit earlier and take our chances. We don’t want to miss the luncheon opportunity!

     

    I hope you were able to check in earlier!

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  2. On 4/24/2019 at 7:01 PM, hvbaskey said:

    I originally placed the Tracker in the thread initiated by CruisingChick on April 23, 2018.  However, the tracker gets lost amongst all the many questions/comments (understandably).  Thus, I have decided to create a single thread for tracking purposes only (filtering out everything else).  

    The purpose of this thread is strictly for compiling information into a spreadsheet.   I will be running this tracker for ~ 6 months to see if any interesting trends come about and/or for general information purposes.  Will reevaluate its usefulness thereafter. 

    IF you wish to participate, answer the following questions as best as you can and I will transfer the info to the Tracker. 
    Please do not ask questions here (redirect your questions/comments to the CruisingChick thread of April 2018).

     

     

     

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  3. While researching our next cruise, tier benefits and protocols, I noticed a change. Previously, The Retreat was open to suite passengers and Captains Club top tier members, Celebrity is changing access to suite passengers only to insure social distancing.

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  4. 4 hours ago, Georgia_Peaches said:

    While Bo has been active on this thread and responsive to your situation, he is not the only one who feels for your plight or the others who are in similar, albeit even more dire situations.  As this situation is fluid and ever changing, I hope you get a favorable outcome...whatever that me be for your circumstance. 

     

    I don't claim to be the solo sufferer, many here chose to be "civil" others chose to lash out. I'm most sympathetic to everyone that has been affected.

     

    No insurance covers epidemics, period. We keep reading uninformed opinions about insurance, this does not apply. 

     

    Celebrity has been making bad decisions in the 2/1 Sailing and about to repeat in the 2/15 sailing, failing their costumers, at a loss, I'm sure. At the same time, they are not easing their costumers concerns, yet, SOME, keep defending their bad decisions. Dozens or more of their passengers have been displaced and forced to handle their own expenses. 

     

    Celebrity has failed their costumer base by delaying decisions in favor or their own interests, there is no other logical explanation, especially when obvious news reports, other travel operators such as airlines and Cruise lines have acted swiftly.

     

    Celebrity has NO excuse for dropping the ball.

     

     

  5. 2 hours ago, omeinv said:

    I really try to empathize with you.  However, the more strident your statements become, the harder it is.

     

    You have a strong opinion of how Celebrity should handle this situation, but Celebrity must consider that for every customer (not costumer) that wants to cancel, another wants the cruise to go forward.  Witness the fact that on the current cruise, there are many passengers in place to receive the full refund plus 50% cruise credit. 

     

    You decided early on what you wanted, and confused your desire with the best possible resolution for all.  That's a textbook example of entitlement.

     

    You repeatedly complain that others on this message board - the very forum you chose to publicly address this issue - are "flaming" you.  In fact you've repeatedly insulted many who offered insight.  The fact that someone sees that the cruise line has a huge stake in the outcome, and is taking measured steps to respond as events unfold does NOT mean they have "drank Kool-Aid".  your first post accused Celebrity of criminal activity.  If you make unreasonable claims, why would you expect others to think you are a reasonable consumer?

     

    You have complained that Celebrity has not treated you the way you wanted.  You also claimed that you feel travel insurance is a bad deal, and thus didn't purchase any.  As is true in any case, if one chooses not to insure something, they are accepting the risk.  Many people do this, but then - as you are doing - want someone else to make them whole when their gamble results in a loss. 

     

    Your feeling that Celebrity is driven by greed hardly bears up under reasonable scrutiny.  I can assure you that regardless of your (uninsured) investment, Celebrity, the other cruise lines, airlines, and countless other businesses have lost untold amounts of money, and will lose more.  This is the nature of an unforeseen event. 

     

    Harris

    Denver, CO

     

    Your opinion is meaningless to me and those that have been affected. Celebrity has acted in their own interest, there are many others that feel the same way. 

     

    Airlines acted quickly and offered passengers many options, Celebrity has not. 

     

    What is you motivation for defending Celebrity vs those that have been inadvertently affected, losing thousands of $$ to manage what Celebrity should have easily foreseen , or even those that are still to come? Yet they continue to repeat themselves. 

     

    You want to stay on these sailing? Your choice. I should not be attacked for having a different opinion, especially when our safety as at stake.

  6. On 2/7/2020 at 9:56 AM, Bo1953 said:

    Clearly I must not be seeing the same thing you are, yet on X's website there is news for this sailing and sailings through 17 March 2020.

     

    Have I missed something there, the official 'information outlet' of what is going on with sailings?

     

    Or, do you have another X 'official source' that you would care to share so we can verify your information?

     

    bon voyage

     

    Bo, and may I say we are contemporaries (1953).  You seem to me a reasonable person. With all due respect, some on these boards have been drinking the Celebrity "Kool-Aid".

     

    Please, the Celebrity published itinerary for the February 1, 2020 cruise on the website is inaccurate, it was never updated. Over the past 9 days it changed multiple times, two closed ports and two diverted ports, please read the 2/1 Roll call. Ultimately these new ports turned the Millennium away, leaving no choice but to cut the cruise short at 9 days because there was no where to go. This sent the ship to Singapore 2/9 and everyone was to go home 2/10/20. This is all over the Millenniums Roll Calls for February and March.

     

    There were passengers (several reporting on CC) on B2B cruises, meaning they were also on the 2/15/20, that posted that they were told by the ship's costumer service "go home the 2/15/2015 sailing is cancelled", the crew reported that the ship is being re-routed to America".

     

    Yet other posts quoting Celebrity officials are asking for "names" and denying the sailing is cancelled. I've been monitoring Millennium Sailing, 2/1 through 3/14, our sailing. The bottom line is that if I/you cancel they only have to offer FCC, if Celebrity Cancels, they must refund, the math is simple as to what they prefer, keep our money. They don't care about inconveniencing passenger in favor of doing the right thing by their costumers in favor their interest.

     

    Celebrity continues to make bad decisions, risk the uncertain itinerary, the cost of the failed cruise, full refund PLUS FCC, (this is what they offered the 2/1 sailing) rather than just cancel the cruise to begin with and save their costumers the aggravation and bad press.

     

    Celebrity is about to do the same thing to their 2/15 sailing AND the ship is about half full. Many have cancelled for FCC, Celebrities preference, maybe it all works out for them, I truly don't understand. 

     

    All in all, it makes no sense, Celebrity sent a letter (read the 2/1 roll call) giving these passengers a full refund and 100% FCC. This makes no sense, Celebrity is willing to take a chance in case events turn in their favor and willing to pay double plus rather than offer viable options.

     

    China is underestimating all statistics, there is no doubt about this and most responsible sources are in agreement about this, it is not my opinion. This crisis is far from over. 

     

    In view of huge financial loss, China is grossly under reporting new cases, deaths and over reporting those "recuperating". This is not over. 

     

    Celebrity is waiting until the very last minute and does not care about the anxiety their costumers are going through, nor care about the safety of their costumers or crew. Many costumers traveling out, missing a once in a lifetime vacation and Celebrity has so far refused to cover above and beyond expenses for the 2/1/20.

     

    Wait till Monday and read the Roll Calls, the 2/1 scenario WILL play again for the 2/15 sailing. 

     

    What Celebrity is doing is IRRESPONSIBLE. Time will prove me correct. How many more sailings need to be impacted before they make the right decision?

     

    DISCLAIMER: I will not read or respond FLAMER'S  posts. Save your time.

  7. 1 minute ago, Bo1953 said:

    b - once the credit card company receives X's response, you do realize that it will be denied, correct?

     

    Yet I support the exercise of trying to prevail, even if frustrated in the end...

     

    bon voyage


    Denial is yet to be determined. We did our due diligence documenting every step, and there were many, this is not a frivolous claim. There’s a dire global emergency, the likes of which have never been seen before, there is no cure and a vaccine is several months in the future. We’ve taken many cruises and this is the first time we’ve taken steps to cancel. We’ve had less than a handful of issues in over 30 years with my credit card company, they have come through every time. They either negotiated an acceptable resolution or a full refund. 
     

    Thank you, we’re not about to give up on our hard earned money. It is true that the virus is not Celebrity’s fault, but neither is ours. They have miss handled this whole situation. There is no news yet for the 2/15/20 sailing, mere days before passengers travel out with two ports closing to cruise ships.  

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  8. 1 hour ago, jelayne said:

     The OPs original post said their cruise was 3/14.  As far as I know that cruise hasn’t been cancelled but the itinerary has had major changes.  With some  ports closing to ships its unknown what will happen to a lot of cruises, not just Celebrity’s.


    Thank you, this was the expected outcome from the start, passengers have been bounced around by Celebrity for their own financial advantage.

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  9. 17 minutes ago, Bo1953 said:

    I believe, that if you knew as early as 11 January and you have CFAR insurance coverage and you are a medical professional, you could have canceled your sailing... and be ahead of the game at this juncture.

     

    Similar situations are being discussed on the Insurance Forum on this board, have read or posted there?

     

    Most of us now understand that your plans were not 'flexible' enough to accept the new sailing/routing, so be it.

     

    We also understand and accept that nothing short of a 'full and nonrestrictive' refund will satisfy you, in this situation, so be it.

     

    I also believe that you have failed to understand the reason many posters reacted the way we have, I think once you have time to cool down a bit AND reflect and read every thing you posted, you may come to understand the somewhat lack of sympathy which may have been written.

     

    Most of us wish you luck, a great resolution to your issue/claim/distress and truly trust that you and X can come to a resolution which YOU are happy with or at least to a greater degree than which is currently on offer.

     

    bon voyage!

     

    Did you read my response? I'm not looking for "sympathy" each person is entitled to make their own decisions, my motivation was to expose Celebrity's lack of costumer service. It looks as though some have drank the Celebrity Koolaid, sorry.

     

    How in the world being a medical professional makes me exempt from Celebrity's arbitrary decisions? Misinformed.

     

    Its not a matter of "cooling down", its a matter of health safety. Are you scheduled on an Asia cruise? Probably not. Your opinion is irrelevant unless your health and $$$ is at Celebrity's judgement.

     

    I was still hoping to go on the sailing and no, I did not choose insurance I was able to get refunds from every other reasonable operator, except Celebrity.

     

    I was flexible, Celebrity declined. I just refused going into a pandemic, did you read my post?

     

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  10. On 1/31/2020 at 2:15 PM, BelloMundo said:

    SHAME FULL! March 14, 2020 Sailing on Celebrity Millennium. We were very much looking forward to taking this cruise of a lifetime, but not under the circumstance caused by the current health crisis, the Corona Virus.

     

    Spoke to TA, Then Celebrity's One Touch Customer Service, on to Resolutions, no help. Celebrity REFUSES to make any changes, offer any options or edit any current adjustments to current itineraries to Point Zero China ports. Or simply waits until the last possible minute.

     

    They just want to steal our hard earned money or force us to voluntarily go into a life threatening situation.

     

    https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2020/01/articles/disease/coronavirus-celebrity-holland-america-line-and-seabourn-cruises-refuse-to-cancel-or-refund-cruises-to-china/

     

    Celebrity pushes forward and refuses to give options to passengers booked on cruises docking in CONTAMINATED  China ports, putting all passengers in danger, taking our money without the benefit of the planned vacation and not being able to visit the promised ports.

     

    Celebrity stance, of not providing custumers twit timely options, shows the lack of respect for our valuable vacation time and exposing us to Asia ports, considering the fluidity and fast moving spread of virus, Celebrity does not value their passengers safety.

     

    We will not cruise Celebrity again. I may loose my $$$, but I will NEVER sail Celebrity again unless they make the right decision.

     

    We offered to swap cruises for safer ports and were flatly refused.

     

    Celebrity notified their February 1, 2020 cruise passengers yesterday, when many had already flown out, with a number of passengers connecting through Hong Kong being denied boarding in Singapore, due to last minute measures put in place at that port.

     

    This is a health emergency!!! Shame Celebrity!

     

    I’ve stayed away from this topic because I have better things to do. After reading the posts, I’m so sad to read SO much misinformation, assumptions as to our motives and plain wrong information. Thank you to those that even partially saw part of our point. To the trolls, naysayers and attackers calling my posts “rants”, I say “I told you so”, too bad some who are all knowing , have all the answers, ridiculed my post and made this a personal attack. We are all here to plan a wonderful trip, some let by their blind loyalty to Celebrity let them ignore their fails. I do hope everyone comes back healthy from these sailings.

     

    A little background, I’ve traveled, flown and cruised for over 40 years, for both pleasure and work, making all our own arrangements.

     

    Years ago I worked as a part time travel agent concentrating on cruising, mostly for the discount. I’ve cruised on nearly a dozen cruise lines, more than once, on several and have mid to high status, I don’t see the need to list then on my signature.

     

    I’ve worked in the health industry, for over 40 years, and had ample experience with all kinds of medical claims including international and travel insurance claims.

     

    Unless you have a condition/accident that may necessitate being medivacked, travel insurance is a crock. First, the passenger is required to pay for most services in advance and then file a claim with the travel insurance company, then hope to be covered, AND at the Insurance companies’ payment schedule, be prepared to have “valid” documentation for every expense. I’ve had to deliver the news of non-coverage, many a time. So if you invest in CFAR travel insurance, be sure to read the fine print. Working in the industry, insurance companies are in the business of taking money in, not paying it out, most, including CFAR, do not cover, epidemics, riots nor wars. Do your homework. No, we did not buy travel insurance, we’ve taken dozens of cruises and this is the first time we encountered this type of mess. ALL my travel expenses were cancellable or refunded, and I DO my homework, except for Celebrity, who continues to hold our fare hostage in spite of an impossible situation and we cannot make alternate plans.

     

    No, the epidemic is not Celebrity’s fault, they just failed to do right by their passengers, especially with the available advance data and daily escalation of the crisis. They are trying to salvage their loss, period at the expense of their guests. Passengers are on pins and needles waiting for Celebrity’s decision regarding our travel plans and ultimately our safety. Loss of vacation, denied disembarkation at planned ports of call with pre-booked tours, additional days at sea with nothing to do, cabin confinement are just some of the unknowns, undesirable outcomes and the real prospects we may have to look forward to, not to ignore the potential for quarantine upon arrival in the USA are just a few of the uncertainties. No, we don’t want to expose ourselves to this. After the way Celebrity has ignored our safety on this trip, we do not want to sail with them again.

     

    Celebrity’s “offer” to cancel and their restrictive FCC is ridiculous, they took our payment in less than 10 seconds, then to cancel and being issued a FCC, which is their only offer, after drastically changing the itinerary, it takes a minimum of 2 to 3 weeks or longer to get the FCC issued, which comes with numerous restrictions on our hard earned money. This is not a cancellation on a whim, there is a declared world emergency, and there is a level 4 CDC advisory in place. Celebrity keeps saying they are monitoring the WHO and CDC, what else do they need to take action as the virus cases continue to spread?

     

    Main points in my original post, Celebrity’s late reaction to the epidemic/pandemic and their lack of timely responsiveness, especially sending the February 1st sailing on a “Mystery” cruise is irresponsible. Even when the sister company, RCC acted timely a week earlier, along with the fast spreading of the positive cases putting everyone at a very high risk, Celebrity did not. Should we decide to continue on with this adventure, is more than certain that our original and revised itineraries will change. Definitely in the future, we will plan a China trip, for now we are definitely out, all the best to those that brave this sailings and unknown circumstances.

     

    There were reports as early as January 11th that this virus was a serious concern.

    http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/01/china-releases-genetic-data-new-coronavirus-now-deadly

    There is plenty of early precedence on this type of infection and how unpredictable it is. Please don’t compare it to the Flu, two different animals. It is the cruise line’s business to be on top of world news, especially epidemics/pandemics, which make the cruise industry and their passengers especially susceptible to these threats. This is not their first rodeo.

     

    Making the necessary route changes is also the cruise line’s business, they are experts and do this every day. Yes, it takes planning, but that is their job and the reason thousands of passengers place our trust in them. Celebrity has certainly disappointed many in the handling of this serious world emergency.

     

    We are not novices, we’ve experienced canceled ports of call, re-routing and other inconveniences, and we took it in stride. To compare the current Corona Virus crisis to previous viruses outbreaks, is risky. This is a totally unprecedented situation and it should have been recognized and handled as such by Celebrity. The presentation of this virus is totally different, this was known early on. Compromised carriers can walk around for nearly two weeks and transmit the virus without anyone being aware, as the new cases on the Diamond princes has shown, anyone is at risk.  

     

    It was not my intent to force the Cruise Line to change itineraries with my initial post, in our opinion, all the Asia itineraries were at risk, as resent events are starting to confirm, we decided early not to take a risk. We simply asked for a fair alternative. We initially asked to be allowed to take an alternate cruise and Celebrity declined, stating we would forfeit the full fare, no credit. My TA and we made numerous attempts to reach out to Celebrity to appeal their decision, via phone and their customer service email, including escalation. We were still willing to sail an alternate route. Celebrity again, declined.

     

    I wish nothing but the best for those still on these voyages, but I’m really concerned for their wellbeing. Celebrity can only protect us so much, to those that thank Celebrity for all their safety efforts I say: How can Celebrity protect us while we are in ports, on tours and exposed to an unknown contagion among the population or an infected passenger that boards without symptoms? Too many unknowns and risks.

     

    The Chinese/Asian people are uber prolific travelers, as I can attest from my travels around the world. This population travels extensibly, especially throughout all of Asia, as well as other continents. It is not a farfetched assumption that the spread of this virus, that goes unnoticed for as much as 14 days, will get worse, before it gets better, sadly and unfortunately that is exactly what has happened. There is no doubt in our mind that this WILL get worse sooner than later. This was the motivation in my original post.

     

    Just yesterday, two additional ports (Taiwan and Japan) on our 3/14/2020 itinerary have been impacted, either temporarily or permanently, all the passengers on this cruise had to scramble to make flight changes at a considerable extra cost for some. We tried to stay positive and really wanted to go on this cruise. We checked airfares, it was more than double the original fare we booked over 3 months ago, the $500.00/pp Celebrity offered would hardly cover the expense. Oh yes, and we would still be flying, voluntarily into a very high risk area.

     

    Celebrity only cares about their bottom line and salvaging as much as they can, I get it, and it’s a business. We don’t buy their line “we care about our passengers and crew. A passenger currently on the February 1, 2020 cruise reported that the crew disembarking in Hong Kong on the previous cruise were allowed back on the ship against notices made by Celebrity. Later this passenger also was told that there was a “flu situation amongst the crew” that “Celebrity is handling. Not reassuring at all. Unfortunately, I’m sure this is not the end of this.

     

    Side note: Sadly, Dr. Li Wenliang, who first reported the virus, has died on February 5th, 2020. Don’t believe the China reported statistics for a second, they are grossly understated and likely to be exponentially higher than those published.

     

    If you are hateful or judgmental, or want to provide unconfirmed information, please reconsider responding. I will not reply.

     

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  11. 12 minutes ago, omeinv said:

     

    Wow!

     

    It does NOT say that refunds will only be issued to Chinese nationals.  It says that those who've transited mainland china will be issued refunds because they will not be allowed to sail. 

     

    The short time frame of the letter is the not the result of Celebrity's response, but of the rapidly unfolding nature of this issue. 

     

    You characterize Celebrity's response as irresponsible.  Most would see it as measured and based upon the best information available without knee-jerk reaction. 

     

    It's clear you are unhappy, and likely cannot be made happy. 

     

    Your stated decision to not sail with Celebity again is a wise course considering your feelings.  You will perhaos be able to recover payment from you travel insurance, or your credit card. 

     

    Harris

    Denver, CO

     

    This is the notice the February 1 Sailing passengers received: 

     

    Millennium Sailings Out of China and Singapore

     

    2/1 ML – Singapore (14 Nt. Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan)

    2/15 ML – Hong Kong (14 Nt. South East Asia) Includes Vietnam, Thailand, Singapore

    ·         Guests who are Chinese Nationals may cancel and receive a 100% refund.

      • Chinese No Shows will be considered as cancelled.

    ·         Guests of all other nationalities may cancel and receive a 100% Future Cruise Credit.

     

    Chines Nationals Sailing On All Other Sailings in February of 2020

    • Chinese Nationals sailing on the following dates will be contacted by our China IRs and offered to cancel with a full refund.
    • Celebrity does not have Chinese National guests booked on any other dates sailing in February of 2020.

     

    Boarding Denied - Guests denied boarding either from Coronavirus symptoms or having traveled through Wuhan/Hubei

    • Full refund.
    • No other compensation.
    • Only Exception – 1 night hotel to figure out their travel
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  12. 1 hour ago, Fouremco said:

     

    LL-P and her band of highwaymen. "Stand and deliver! Your money or your life!"

     

    Perhaps a little less melodrama and a lot more thought about the global problems created by this outbreak might help you to understand that Celebrity is operating in a very new and extremely fluid environment with few, if any, precedents to guide them. A quick fix is seldom a good one, so give them time to work it out.

     

    Im sure you would not be calling it "melodrama" if this was happening to you, by the way, its not drama, its frustration at the prospect of a ruined vacation or the opportunity to have a reasonable amount of time to plan. Given the announcements of the WHO, the CDC, and the government raising the warning to level 4 and the circumstances of this aggressive virus, making a swift decision is a no brainer, unless greed is a factor.

  13. 14 minutes ago, sippican said:

    Cruise Law News is the National Enquirer of cruise line news.They are known as the ambulance chasers of the industry. Not a good source to quote if you want to lend any rational credibility to your arguments.

    I am so sorry you have been impacted by this, along with thousands of others,  but doubt that Celebrity will make the right decision to keep you happy, nor will they miss you if you never sail with them again.

     

    I confirmed the information by checking several sources and personal experience. Celebrity has refused to enter into any kind of option other than "forfeit your payment", period.

     

    On you other point, no they wont miss us two, the truth is that there is ample discontent among the 8 or so Asia cruises, equaling thousands that are very angry with Celebrity and have vowed not to sail with them again, no, they wont miss us 2, but they are affecting thousands and THAT they will notice. 

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  14. 18 minutes ago, Jim_Iain said:

    Celebrity published a notification to passengers on the Feb 1 cruise yesterday.   Looks like the itinerary has been changed to protect those traveling.     They are offering a 100% refund or modified itinerary.

     

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    Only China nationals are being offered a refund. Other nationalities only get cruise credit. 

     

    Did you see the date on this letter? How are those poor people make any kind of decision? 

     

    They could have taken action days ago, period. Irresponsible.

  15. 1 hour ago, cruising princess 1964 said:

    More people have died in the USA from the flu this season then have even contracted the coronovirus

     

    Lets put things in perspective

    What you think is the right thing to do may not be what others think  Personally I would not have a problem going

    The best way to combat any of these virus's is to WASH YOUR HANDS properly and often 

    No company can keep you healthy

     

     

     

     

    I work in the medical industry, the flu and this virus are to different animals, there are no similarities whatsoever. There are protocols, vaccines and precautionary methods in place for the flu. The main reason for the deaths is lack of compliance in getting the vaccine and identifying the problem too late, that the patients have the flu and not just the common cold. The new Corona Virus manifests itself differently and there is absolutely no cure or vaccine yet .

     

    "What you think is the right thing to do may not be what others think  Personally I would not have a problem going"

     

    That is absolutely correct, I was not asking for anyone else, we were asking for ourselves, we will not voluntarily place ourselves anywhere Asia under the current conditions. Others can do as they see fit. What Celebrity is trying to do is force our hands without recourse.

     

     

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  16. 32 minutes ago, Pushka said:

    If necessary Celebrity will monitor the situation and adjust it accordingly. They have no choice not to. It’s just that it’s very fluid and the situation changes daily. Other non Chinese ports will refuse to allow ships that have visited China recently a berth. That is already happening in the South Pacific and those cruise lines didn’t even touch China! 

     

    The question is "when". 

  17. 1 hour ago, jelayne said:

     

    The article in your post is dated 1/28, 2+ days ago.  Things are changing rapidly with cases of the virus increasing tenfold in a week.   Airlines, cruise lines, tour companies are scrambling to deal with this health emergency.   There are people whose cruises are in days as you cited and are finding they can't board because they have been in Hong Kong.  Do you think Celebrity decided weeks ago to deny boarding to those who were in Hong Kong pre cruise and chose not to tell the passengers until yesterday?  I don't.

     

    You cruise is about 6 weeks away.  I would keep the reservation cruise/air and wait to see what changes are made to your itinerary or options you may be offered by Celebrity and the airlines.

     

    We have a B2B2B planned for the fall with stops in Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, etc.  So I know the anticipation of a trip like yours and the money and time invested in this adventure.  I hope this works out well for you and the others.

     

    I wrote this 2 days ago, per CC guidance I re-posted it here.

     

    I'm a frequent traveler/flyer,  I have been closely monitoring the outbreak and very aware of the progress.

     

    Several cruise lines acted swiftly and fairly, Celebrity has not.

     

    Celebrity, obviously did not know the HK issue, they did however know same as sister line Royal Caribbean and chose not to act the same.

     

    It has been obvious very early on that this virus is like nothing we have ever seen.

     

    The airlines that have seats are quickly filling up, if I follow your suggestion, we will not be able to book our preferred routes or pay exorbitant fares with very few choices. So forgive me if I don't follow your suggestion to wait. If their handling of the first two Asia cruises, there will be very little chance of salvaging our planned time off. 

     

    The dragging of not making timely decisions and options for their customers is totally reprehensible of Celebrity.

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  18. SHAME FULL! March 14, 2020 Sailing on Celebrity Millennium. We were very much looking forward to taking this cruise of a lifetime, but not under the circumstance caused by the current health crisis, the Corona Virus.

     

    Spoke to TA, Then Celebrity's One Touch Customer Service, on to Resolutions, no help. Celebrity REFUSES to make any changes, offer any options or edit any current adjustments to current itineraries to Point Zero China ports. Or simply waits until the last possible minute.

     

    They just want to steal our hard earned money or force us to voluntarily go into a life threatening situation.

     

    https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2020/01/articles/disease/coronavirus-celebrity-holland-america-line-and-seabourn-cruises-refuse-to-cancel-or-refund-cruises-to-china/

     

    Celebrity pushes forward and refuses to give options to passengers booked on cruises docking in CONTAMINATED  China ports, putting all passengers in danger, taking our money without the benefit of the planned vacation and not being able to visit the promised ports.

     

    Celebrity stance, of not providing custumers twit timely options, shows the lack of respect for our valuable vacation time and exposing us to Asia ports, considering the fluidity and fast moving spread of virus, Celebrity does not value their passengers safety.

     

    We will not cruise Celebrity again. I may loose my $$$, but I will NEVER sail Celebrity again unless they make the right decision.

     

    We offered to swap cruises for safer ports and were flatly refused.

     

    Celebrity notified their February 1, 2020 cruise passengers yesterday, when many had already flown out, with a number of passengers connecting through Hong Kong being denied boarding in Singapore, due to last minute measures put in place at that port.

     

    This is a health emergency!!! Shame Celebrity!

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  19. 1 hour ago, ZellBrad said:

    We started cruising back in the classical days of cruising (2002) 🙂 when there were two formal and two semi-formal evenings per cruise.  We loved “dressing” for dinner, since we never do that at home.  The advantage of wearing tuxes usually got us free drinks at the bar...or that may have been the drink package...no, I’m sure it was the tuxes. 🙂 

    LOL!

    We have been cruising since the early 80s, its never too late to start, LOL!

    For us is all about dressing up once in a while, I don't care about other's opinions or if we get any freebies, although we have gotten some, "no comment". 

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