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We use a service called 24/7. They are fast and reliable. We'll never use Princess shuttle ever again!
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It depends on which port you want to leave from. The Star Princess leaves out of San Francisco and is a 10-day cruise. This is the one we cruise on because we can drive to the port. I believe she's in good shape, clean, and find no fault with the food. We always book a Caribe cabin due to the balconies being larger than others. I can't tell you about activities for children. There will be a naturalist on board who will point out wildlife (whales, dolphins, etc), during the cruise.
Also, San Francisco has many things to see and do for children: The zoo, museum, Alcatraz, Angel Island, Fisherman's Wharf, just to name a few.
Good luck in whatever you choose. Princess is more laid back and you will find more senior citizens than children.
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OMG....go to YOU TUBE and punch in "Pier Runners" you will see so many of them on video. Cozumel is FAMOUS for pier runners and people missing the ship. I guess it is the tequila.:eek:
Some of those utubes are hilarious to watch. The funniest part are the people on board heckling! :D
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I don't normally click on the reviews unless the title says "with pictures." Very nice pictures, and you really make it sound like you and your dad were having a blast. Thanks for sharing.
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My name is not on the list.....:confused:
Onthehighseas606--CA
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Present.... :D
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We take a baggy full of D'Vita Cappucino (powdered). You can get it in a big can from Costco. You can put it in your coffee of just add water - it is yummy! Nothing better than sitting on our balcony and sipping coffee mixed with some D'Vita. :p
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29 crusinsusan - PA
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73 SCUBA Mark - Texas
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80 smarks & DH oldfart - GA.
81 Floatway and Hubby - Friendswood, Texas
82 Luv2cruz44 - Redding, CA
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84 irishgirl - Michigan
85 Candigirl41 - So. CA
86 luv2cruise777l - So Ca.
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88 Joel (Cruzman), LA (Lower Alabama)
89 Amanda, also from Lower Alabama
90 75Vette - Missouri
91 SadieN & DH & DD - San Bernardino County, CA
92 JaguarGirl - Jacksonville, Florida
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97 cruisergirl2002 - Indiana
98 Deaf Dude - New Orlean
99 Dan40&Barb-Florida
100 G'ma-Voorhees NJ
101 JMW / MJW MB SC
102 MelBCroozer - Covington, LA
103 Shawnie - Canada
104 Mikel1733 & Sally - Nebraska
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106 Southbayer - So Calif
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108 MarylandLady - Maryland
109 Smoofdaddy and Mama Linda - Tennessee
110 FunShipFan - New York
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112 S.S. Oceanlover - PA
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114. CWcruisers - San Diego, CA
115. MDR Cali Cruisers - SoCal
116. DGP1111 - Florida
117. Crazycath - SoCal
118.M&J-Florida
119 keene state mom New Hampshire
120. Bigboataddict - E. TX
121. nowendy - Marrero, LA
122. Chigirlcruzin - Chicago
123. Georgiagolfer & DW - Augusta, Georgia
124. "Copvet" Wayne & Debbie, Jax.Bch., Fl
125. Manmachine & DW - Melbourne, FL
126. Julienatul - FL
127. Alberta_Cruiser & DW & DD(19) - Calgary, Alberta
128. sjones0920 Virginia 129. GTVCRUISER - San Diego
130. scperk-Collierville,Tennessee
131. PatfromPa - Pennsylvania
132. grey's girl - Pennsylvania
133. jerrymac - Florida
134. LPLRN76& DH -Florida
135. Cruises42 - Virginia
136. imacruiser2 - Washington State
137. funcruzck1 - Atlanta, GA
138. cruisng4fun- Boston, Ma
139. gfsmith- Oklahoma
140. Gracie65 & family, North Myrtle Beach, SC
141. kicia (& George) - Indiana to Florida
142. bots99 - Florida
143. Bobby & Mary-South Carolina
144. CheerBelleMom-Texas
145. gottacruise - Not currentLY from anywhere - full time RV'er
146. Victory2020 - Los Angeles
147. Bill & Leila - Georgetown, KY
148. Kaseyoz- Sydney Australia__________________
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150. Little - Atlanta, GA
151. Linda Lu (&Jerry & Sandra) Texas
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153. Mike and Pat, San Clememte CA
154. Harlekuin & Dcon, Sacramento, CA
155. Salty Dawg (Ken & Nancy) - Michigan
156. cheepwrent - Oklahoma
157. Gatorman - Florida
158. Susan (vidimom) & Scott - Gainesville, Florida
159. Charlotte (Charbill) & Bill - OHIO
160. Host Terry
161. LindaJSteele and DH - Jacksonville, FL
162. Jim & Claudete - TEXAS
163. we're sailing away - Jacksonville, FL
164. SHOLLY (Steve)- Kansas
165. Tertog(Joe and Terry)- Kennesaw, GA
166. mom2girls-Orlando, FL
167. Loisann - South Carolina
168. legalmom and Ben - Jacksonville, FL
169. Beth - Bob and Beth - Georgia
170. Bruce & Pam - Midland, TX
171. cantw82cruise - Michigan
172. Crdtrnr - Shreveport, Louisiana (hubby will be on next cruise)
173. CwuzCwazy & DW - Florida
174. Uncle Doug, Dayton, TX
175. UncleDougsDonna, Dayton, TX
176. allenee-Mary Ann & David, Cheifland,Fl.
177. Bandman - Larry & Melinda - Franklin, TN
178. Tess2cruz - Teri - Houston Texas
179. MszKitty - SoCal
180. Doug & Pat, Wichita Falls, Tx.
181. Michael and Michele, Vermont
182. LornaT (and Mom Olga & DD Jessica) Van Nuys, CA (SoCal)
183. Jessemon-Tampa
184. Navarrecruiser - Bob & Lynda Navarre, FL
185. sa7776 - Mississippi
186. PA Dutchman- PA
187. breenw (Bill and Marsha), New Palestine, IN
188. Beezalar (skip and trisha) gastonia nc
189. bp traveler - MN
190. umwife11--South Florida
191. jmss1950 - Simpsons - Georgia
192. rbrb1951-north Alabama
193. CalifCruiser1 - California
194. Donna n Francis - Nova Scotia, Canada
195. familyof4cruising - NY
196. Spikester- Alexandria VA
197. DEL67 - NJ
198. ScootsMom - Florida
199. MickMac100- Scotland UK
200. rm4778- Auburn, AL
201. Catrin (Cathy and Steve) - Rhode Island
202. Beverlyf - Pittsburgh PA
203. Cruiser@Heart - Illinois
204. Natk - New York (13 done, 14 and 15 booked..looking for 16-20)
205. Flynlo - Oklahoma Go Sooners!!
206. Villagers70 - The Villages, Florida
207. jess2245 - Leesburg, Florida
208. lp343-Woodbury, MN
209. c&d -Ohio
210. CruiseSpecialist03- Miami, Florida
211. cruisecop2006
212. scfcruiser - Steve & Cheryl - Trenton, Ohio
213. Jaxonboy - Ft Smith, Arkansas
214. augie - Melbourne, Florida
215. winddawn - Tennessee
216. Chris64 - Bama....Rollll Tide!
217. OKGIRL - Dallas, TX
218. OKGIRLs Sister - Dallas, TX
219. Au48 - Auburn, AL -- War Damn Eagle!
220. Luckycruzer
221. Funship Freddy - USVI
222. duck512 - Ohio
223. gazingm42 - Stuck in the South
224. yesaCCasey - Go Gators, Florida
225. Rocky123 - NJ
226. Sweetnell and Oldmedic- Texas
227. BuggyStuff - Brad, Iowa
228. LynneL (and family) - Long Island, NY
229. Louisiana Joe (The Original) Geaux Tigers!!
230. Ship Addict - Katy Texas -- Go Tigers
231. CathysCruisin' - Cathy & Dan, San Antonio, TX
232. Denville Dave - NJ
233, MSQPON - Jo - NJ
234. cruizer4662 - Merritt Island, FL-- "GO BLUE, Michigan"
235. Cuizman1 - FL
236. Tallcruiser - CA
237. Stepbrod-MD
238. JoeSmooga and Wife of JoeS - Sioux City, IA
239. Kids of JoeS (2... went Plat. at ages 5 and 7!) - Sioux City, IA
240. ahoys- Dave and Kathy- Tampa, FL
241. can'twaittacruise - Lynn and Dave - Hollister, FL
242. demos-GA
243. Fofita01 - Miami, FL
244. GOTTA CRUISE NOW - Lancaster, PA
245. Volzcruiser - Tn Go Vols
246. Cruizier4662 - Merritt Island, Fl.
247. Jetskier-Lumberton, Mississippi
248. Barbados1999 - Maryland (DC suburbs)
249. glrounds - So Cal
250. Julie McCoy - Fairhope, AL
251. TTz - Tony & Karrie - Mesa, AZ.
252. ADATL & DH both - Angie & Doug - Atlanta, GA
253. KatSt - Kathy & Bill (Both Platinum) - Gilbert, Az
254. Dell08-Adelle - Fort Lauderdale, FL
255. Donan54 - Columbus, GA
256. djacobson - Baton Rouge, La.
257. Mammama - Don and Carolyn - Tennessee
258. Cincy Gal - Cincinnati, Ohio
259. Rosefloater - Los Angeles, CA
260. Ascott318 Newburgh,NY
261. beetle9 - Tim and Tammy, OH.
262. rellersi - Apex, NC
263. LUV'S Crusin - Winston Salem, NC
264. lindanick - Florida
265. DolfanNY
266. maurick Hackettstown, NJ
267. Travel girl23 - Texas
268. Simpleman - Virginia
269. Ccruzer - Chicago, Il
270. Jhale - Houston, Texas
271. rhorhorho - Palm Bay, Florda
272. SeaUonboard - Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas
273. Meowsmurphy - John & M-E, Columbus, OH
274. alberta_cruiser and family - Alberta, Canada
275. Wants to be rich - Massachusetts
276. LRene - Hattiesburg, MS
277. Lifestylecruzer - Hattiesburg, MS
278. popsec - Fair Haven, Vermont
279. thecarnivalkid - Ryan- Windsor, Ontario
280. brcris75 - Arkansas
281. cruising3times - Ohio
282. lidoplease - SC
283. Cruisetobeaches-IL
284. Cruzenagain - South Carolina
285. Shipdogred - Mississippi
286. Jdfireman - New Jersey
287. 007007 - North Carolina
288. SantanaTto - New Jersey
289. KevinKelli - St. Petersburg, FL
290. KelliKevin - St. Petersburg, FL
291. Txsluvscruising-Sanger, TX
292. Cascole - San Diego, CA
293. Grouchpuss - Tucson, AZ
294. TX Southpaw - Plano, TX
295. CruzVinnieCruz - Pittsburgh, PA
296. Astropilot - Decatur, Il
297. ibecruzen2 - Daytona Beach, Fl.
298. Natspawpaw-Florence, AL
299. Lmtrn2001-Florence, AL
300. mulecuizer - Temecula, Ca.
301 Mort13ers Boston Ma
302 ccnvcpl - San Antonio, TX
303. Sockmonkey - Central Tx
304. dorinel - Chester, Massachusetts
305 rwilli01 Arkansas
306 Cateyes2u - Oakland CA.
307 Harlekuin - Sacramento, CA
308 Bluehorizonlover - Buffalo Grove, IL
309 travelinggrandma California
310 PaulMedik - Montgomery WV.
311 INCHARGE - Va
312 Ncjeff Cary NC.
313 Scot Griffith, IN
314 Jeff aka DrKleen, Owings, MD
315 Calker, WI
316 Calker's husband, WI
317 kewbrook, SC
318 kewbrook's husband, SC
319 BigDoug, Maryland
320 jenms2000, Georgia
321 thepeach, Georgia
322 aggieastrosfan and DH, Texas
323 framerman, Hendersonville, NC
324 crusinpsychRN, Florida
325 Steveaaaaa, Florida
326 alagirl-- Sally and Donald, AL
327 Babyblue, Harker Heights ,Texas
328 Triplee, Fredericksburg, VA
329 Denisey, Seattle, WA
330 Dennisy, Seattle
331 Jimiam, Dothan,Al
332 Sueiam, Dothan,Al
333 ddoc and spouse Limerick, PA
334 JOEZ Parents, Mechanicsville, MD
335 JOEZ, Mechanicsville, MD
336 Love2Sail - Randy and Tammy, TX
337 Mamma Tennessee
338 RickB, Nova Scotia
339 Margarita Mom, Nova Scotia
340 Ginny & Ray, Cape Coral, FL
341 Cruise-Crazy, Miami, FL
342 Essiesmom, Hinesville, GA
343 BarbaraSails; New Orleans, LA
344 Nieciez; Fredericksburg VA
345 rwilli01 Searcy AR
346 Jim Carroll Fort Myers, Fl.
347 Armando & Ginny - Houst
348 rlkubi - St. Louis, MO
349 bar10der421 Baltimore MD
350 Rotorwinger Doswell Va
351 Lynn & Carla Dallas, TX
352 Cruznlobo-Mike and Vicki North Tonawanda, NY
353 Mach-Texas
354 DqALEX
355 Dave0311-New Jersey
356 GC - Gary & Sarah
357 jeanarch-jean & Archie Oak Grove, Louisiana
358 SnowWhiteNYC - Sue and Bob, West Islip (LI) NY
359 mr0315 Maria - Newark, Delaware
360 Gone_Kroozin-Jersey
361 gcam - Maryland
362 dafuser-Texas
363 Cathy (dafusers DW)-Texas
364 FamilyDoc (Okmulgee OK)
365 Big Daddy (Texas)
366 Captain Ronn and Donna (Birmingham, Al)
367 NCTribeFan - Durham, NC
368 viaggi_per_mare - New York
369 firefly333 - Texas
370 legalmom (Lois and Ben-Milestone)
371 tiggerman101 (Atlanta GA)
372 bettysuetraveler (Memphis TN)
373 Cricket63 (Charleston SC)
374 Jimbo5544 Jim and Mary CT
375 Ashleezmom (Orange County, CA)
376 Robert & Trish (Dallas, Texas)
377 cruzinblondie (Debbie & Pete, Montgomery, TX)
378 AstroPilot (Dave & Diana, Decatur, Il)
379 Frick_&_Frack (New York)
380 Fun 2 Crz
381 Frank12 ( Florida)
382 capndinghy (Fort Worth, Texas)
383 BLUsry - Lee and Cathy (Houston, Texas)
384 LCSeale53 (Leon and Sandra, Lakeland, Florida)
385 BigDformTN - Don & Renee (Bartlett, TN) as of 12/2010
386 Patattack (Pat) Tennessee
387 ROK4U2, Algiers
388 Cruisedogs (Virginia)
389 Jes2245 Leesburg, FL
390 Wnt2bol - Leland, NC
391 Hockeyluver & Hubby~ Emeryville Ontario, Canada (im cheating we will be in February )
392 Avril - Burlington, Ontario, Canada (sailing on my 1st Platinum cruise on the Miracle for New Years, can't wait!! )
393 donsuej - 2 of us! , Fitchburg, MA
394 ManateeMom, Palm Beach, FL
395 Bama Fan - 2 of us, Madison, Alabama
396 Man of Many Hats - Kansas
397 Anjanu - Savannah, GA (sailing on my 1st platinum cruise on Dream, 12/11)!!!
398 Texaribbean Chick - (Chuck and Crystal) Houston, TX
399. CapnDinghy and Pat - Ft. Worth, Texas
400. CruisinSteve and Kathy - Eden, NC
401. LindaJean (2 of us) - South Carolina
402. Legalwife and Hubby - Georgia
403. Tggs726 - Connecticut
404. Cruisin'Lovebirds - Florida
405. xplor97 - Morris, IL
406. rockwood84 - Tennessee
408. INCHARGE - VA
409. misstopgun
410. scubacruiser and 7thchild
411. Mullet and Clo - Statesboro Ga.
412. Sewut
413 scott & marion wyoming MI
414 Mt Lassen - NorCal
415 sunshine002 NY
416 ontheboatagain-CA
417 Lindan1020 - Port Charlotte, FL
418 JHALE - KATY, TX
419 Sandyjabs - Florida
420 1tuckersmom - Steens, Ms
421 wasiii - Long Island, NY
422 l2luv2cruise – Massachusetts
423 Kujobie - Kurt and Karen Clearwater Florida
424 Dave.... Ontario Canada...EH!
425 btorlv - La Verne, Calif.
426 Cruisnmom007- Whittieer, Calif
427. mzloolue - Memphis
428. Lucigo - Pace, FL
429. Arizona Cruisers - George and Judy - Chandler, Arizona
430. crusing3times - Ohio
431- Jetwet1 - Las Vegas
432. shipshape gal - west palm beach
433. AnnMarie58 - Phx Arizona
434. azcruisegurl - Chandler, Arizona
435. Bigsmooth-North Al.
436. Steve and Kay AR
437. nursejean from SC
438. crusinpsychRN
439. Bev - Nova Scotia, Canada
440. Ashleezmom - (Ashley) California
441. StrangeBrew and Wife - Florida
442. Stargateman and family - Florida
443. Dominichunter - Orange County, Ca
444. Relax@Sea - Chicago, IL
445. Idiebabe - Myrtle Beach, SC
446. Pungo3 - Florida
447. mek - Ohio
448. Bamarobbie and hubby- Georgia
449. CorbinCatFan - Kentucky Big Blue Nation
450. Gpop & Nana (Joe & Kim both Platinum)- Houston, Texas
451. Jen_G (& hubby) Virginia
452. wrigley80 (Brianna and Rick) - Kirkland, IL
453. D & D Cruisers - Olympia, WA
454. Luv cruising 007 & MOM! - Henderson/Las Vegas, NV
455. Ladylikes2cruise & DH- New Jersey
456. Jonbgd - SFO/HOU
457. sunsetsand-Louisiana
458. flc & DW - Kansas
459. hues of blue-MN
460. Jana60- Oklahoma
461. Trace911 - Savannah, GA
462. Bluejeans - WV
463. SFNC Cruising - NC
464. Bluemargaritaontherocks -- Chicago, IL
465. Onthehighseas606
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Another OFFICIAL CRUISE CRITIC CARNIVAL PLATINUM CRUISERS
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DH and I were considering a cruise out of San Francisco as well. However, the parking is pretty steep - $15/day. Whenever we fly out of San Francisco for a vacation or cruise we stay at a hotel that gives us free parking for 14 days and $7 for each additional day. Then take a taxi to the ship. There's a free shuttle to the airport. Might be worth looking into.
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I began reading your review and not paying attention to time, it took me 2 hours just to get through page 3. Wonderful pictures and review - I'll finish your review tomorrow.
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I'm overwhelmed at the moment. We are going on the Island Princess Panama Canal sailing November 12. We are flying in the day before. What hotel is closest to the pier and with a shuttle. What about the Comfort Inn, is that close to the pier - a friend recommended it? Thanks for your help.
P.S. First time for us sailing out of Ft. Lauderdale.
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I'm booking tomorrow for the Panama Canal 11/12/12 Island Princess. Thanks for all the info as I told the Princess booking agent that we would get our own flights and insurance. He was kind of pushy and doing the scare tactic on me. We've been on several Carnival cruises and the booking your own air flights and insurance doesn't change. We'll be flying in a day before - maybe even 2 days before.
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Never won a nickel and lost plenty. It's a loser thing for me. So, I no longer play when we cruise.
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Heck she paid for the cruise they better just take her on the cruise! The cost would be astrinomical to get her home from a port. After all the passengers got off they should have a car pick her up and deal with it from there. :( that would suck.
I hope she had trip insurance! :rolleyes:
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In the MDR, they use to sing Happy Anniversary to you." :rolleyes: BFD! I think one year they gave us a cake but I doubt they still do this. Nothing special unless you request and pay for it.
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I had a filet and a lobster tail in the main dining room on the Spirit for NO extra fee! We had a res at the steakhouse but we ended up canceling it cause I saw no reason to pay for what I could get for free.
I had surf and turf in the steakhouse on the Splendor. I've been on many Carnival cruises and I can tell you, that I have never had anything in the MDR like I did in the steakhouse. There's no comparison of the two. I think the lobster (small tails) were rubbery in the MDR. The ones I saw in the steakhouse were the biggest lobster tails I have ever seen in my life. The filet was so tender we didn't need a knife.
For the vegetarian issue, tell the Steakhouse ahead of time that your wife is a vegetarian, and they'll accommodate her.
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I haven't seen this question or answer yet....how would you get the cork back into the bottle? I've never been able to get a cork all the way back into a bottle after opening it :confused: Of note, we were advised by the sommelier at our wine store that many of even the top end wines are going to screw off tops due to a cork shortage.
Reverse the cork the way you took it out. The bottom becomes the top and the bottom is tapered enough to get it back into the bottle. You can tell I've done this before. :D
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Just buy the cheapie wine with the screw-on top and replace that. :p
Never buy cheap wine just to pour it out! Buy good wine, drink it and enjoy it then reuse the bottle to smuggle. If you carefully slice the band going around the top of the bottle, you can carefully reglue it to the bottle after refilling it. If security saw cheap wine in your bag, he/she might get suspicious.
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From the Carnival Spirit deck plan.
Cruising out of San Francisco
in West Coast Departures
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We stayed at the Best Western El Rancho. They will pick you up at the airport and take you to the hotel. You can then book Super Shuttle that will pick you up at the airport the next day and take you to the ship. Best Western will take you back to the airport (free of charge). It's a clean hotel and close to the airport. Super Shuttle might make a couple of pick ups and drop off, but it's no big deal. The taxi is very expensive!!!