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Yeah but the weather up here isn't all that much better. 

I'll be getting on the Majestic just as you guys are getting off so definitely following this thread :)

Iliad of the Seas?

7 hours ago, chengkp75 said:

Lifeboats are designed to do one thing: get people away from the ship as quickly and easily as possible, once.  Everything else is gravy.  Retrieving lifeboats is one of the most dangerous jobs seafarers do.  The mechanisms that allow the boat to leave quickly and easily, make getting it back that much harder.  In addition, the boat and it's engine are really designed to keep the boat in one place, not take you to shore.  The ship transmitted its last location prior to abandoning, so that is where the search will start, so that is where the boats should remain.  The engine only has 24 hours of fuel.

We had a pelican hook blow out once and left the boat dangling by only one cable. Fortunately the ship was alongside and no-one was on it. 

1 hour ago, Flatbush Flyer said:

Start here: https://www.maritime.dot.gov/ports/office-security/office-maritime-security
 

Historical tidbit:  the development (funded by federal/state DHS) of post-9/11 US ship security training/exercising was undertaken at the California Maritime Academy using the TS Golden Bear.

As some might expect, the initial exercise of the proposed standards was a very eye-opening experience about the challenges of a maritime environment (picture a fully outfitted bomb disposal officer wrestling with a companionway or a SWAT team unfamiliar with “seven shorts and a long” horn sequence).

I remember reading that report at work once. We had a few good chuckles over it.

1 hour ago, ronrythm said:

Because the longshoremen seem powerful, a lot of people assume that all maritime unions are powerful. It’s the only one they ever hear about in the news. 
An aside on the longshoremen; one of the local dock operators was talking about the increase in longshoremen pay. Someone mentioned that over a certain number of years the pay had tripled.  The operator replied that wages had tripled, but the tonnage moved had increased 10 times. Do the math.

Enjoy

⤴️⤴️⤴️This 💯

10 hours ago, capriccio said:

This was posted by chengkp75 on the Princess board.  I hope he doesn't mind me sharing it.

 

I remember when I was being trained on lifeboats, they used alot of oil to start these things up because they sit unused for a while. They always spew out black smoke when you first start them up, so this makes sense. (course these weren't the partially enclosed lifeboats they use here so....)

4 hours ago, BigAl94 said:

According to Corfu Fire Chief Kolovos, the main achievement of the operation was to prevent the fire from spreading to the interior of the cruise ship. The heat had even destroyed the windows but eight firefighters and crew members fought from within the ship to stop it spreading inside!

The fact that the fire was on the side of the ship facing out to sea made matters more difficult and meant that it would have to be tackled from the sea - but the Coastguard's firefighting boat is based in Igoumenitsa. A fire engine was loaded onto an open ferry boat so as not to lose any time and was able to help get the fire under control before it could do more damage to the ship.

Plus the fact they were able to handle a fire this high up in the ship without any noticeable list happening. 

Kudos to them!

Here's a close-up of the damage.

Definitely started in a lifeboat.

1 hour ago, FreestyleNovice said:

 

You sir are the best!  This makes puzzling way easier!

 

So, currently at VARD Tulcea there's only an unidentified block with the large Leo atrium windows, which can only be the 2nd Leonardo class ship.

 

Leo 1 is going steady in Venice.

 

Go kart track, check.

Tallest slide at sea, check.

 

Deck plans, name, hull art, nope..

Anything on sale 1½ year out, nope..

What's interesting is when I was investigating this. I was comparing hulls (portholes, lines protruding out, holes cut for the mooring deck, etc.) and the Leo is EXTREAMLY similar to the Seaside classes. Makes me think they're build on the same platform. 

1 hour ago, FreestyleNovice said:

 

Debunking my speculation; the bow block does not looks like it's Leonardo, although I still can't figure out which ship it is.. it may be under Vard or Fincantieri in the online cruise ship order books with a launch date in 2022, 2023?

 

Unless NCL changed the design LOL, hmm..

 

 

Aren't these pictures of the the 4th MSC Seaside class (referred to as MSC Seaside EVO #2) and not the Leo?

17 minutes ago, Extra Kim said:

Wasn't Singapore one of few ports in Asia that let crew disembark?

They were closed originally but in June were one of the first to allow full crew changes with a strict set of rules and requirements.

On 8/22/2020 at 7:26 AM, Biker19 said:

Maybe the layup is planned for several months and they are getting a better deal on resupply in this area. 

100% this ☝️☝️☝️☝️

That's why she's in Greece. 

Also why there's a lot of ships in Curacao, around the English Channel, and Singapore amongst others. 

Ships don't share electricity.

Also why is the hotel director still o/b?

Notice they're using "Carnival" in front of the name for this ship, unlike Mardi Gras. 

Also important to note that the Bahamas isn't an ECA (Emissions Controlled Area) so they're not running it through the scrubbers.

[I see a certain someone on twitter is willfully ignoring that fact.]

I agree with the above that staying on south beach is both overrated and just not that nice, even in a boutique hotel. I've always had great experiences at both JW Marriott's. The two W Hotels I tend to think are overrated and lost a bit of their flare.

1 hour ago, sparks1093 said:

The US Navy has renamed ships if they underwent enough of change in structure, etc. If the changes are substantial enough then yes, I think renaming is appropriate. I've seen the before and after pictures of the ships that have been redone and I think they fall into that category.

From a technical standpoint I think we should consider if she changed her IMO number or MMSI. (In this case no) That occurs when, like you said, there's significant structural changes to the vessel.

Also Kelly Arison didn't really christen her. She 'renamed' her with a champagne salute which is hardly has any impact.

2 hours ago, RRLLAL said:

 

I’d it was only greed, why did they add so many “free” things like restaurants? Can you list everything they added? 

From a business perspective, the free things they added, did save costs in other ways. The additional free venues alleviate passenger traffic from the typical busy areas, therefore they don't have to pay more to expand them etc.

3 hours ago, jimbo5544 said:

What the heck are you trying to say....I read this 4 times and have no idea...

Over 90% of this guys posts I always have to ask myself that 

23 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

I was going to suggest the "fat finger" error, but didn't want to cast stones, but I looked at our Furuno AIS, and the selection for NUC is right below "At anchor" and above "restricted maneuverability", so this definitely could have been an error on the watch officer in entering data, in the heat of the moment.

I didn't even think of that.

Being a deckie I guess I always give the benefit of the doubt, but now in this job, there's some mind boggling things I've seen done on bridge's we've worked on.

On 7/4/2019 at 5:06 AM, chengkp75 said:

As for the AIS indication of NUC, it would be normal for the engineers to reduce remaining power to the azipods before trying to reclose the "tie" breaker, as this would create an instantaneous huge power draw as the half power to the pods was restored, unless you slowed down to reduce this load.  I can't remember if the AIS defaults to NUC when at sea and drifting, or whether the bridge officer may have input this into the system.  There is no power interruption to navigational equipment during power losses, as the battery banks are always connected and charging.

 

I just looked up in our AIS manual and there's no mention of status automatically changing or anything like that. 

Here's how we define NUC:

"Vessel not under command means a vessel which through some exceptional circumstance is unable to maneuver as required by these Rules and is therefore unable to keep out of the way of another vessel."

I would think during one of these 'outtages' they perhaps didn't have maneuverability as they were trying to either get another engine online or switching power supplies (but I think that's instantaneous.)

Hoping you guys can help me with this one. I have to work onboard one of the ships this weekend but just for the day. Can anyone recommend an hourly parking site close by?

Looking at the cam now, they painted over the dents. 

(at work now so can't post images. I'm sure someone else will.)

Epic dropped her lines and are having two tugs maneuver her out.

1 hour ago, MMJMM said:

The moorings were destroyed. But it was like an elephant stepping on a mouse . Nobody on board even noticed until we got off. I talked to the Coast Guard on the pier. It’s a joint CG/NTSB investigation but just some superficial damage to the ship. 

 

What i cant figure out is why the CG let us leave San Juan with engine problems. Whatever. 

The Captain of the Port would have no reason to hold you guys. Machinery breaks all the time on ships. As ironic as it may seem, there was no deficiency in the ships maneuverability. Not sure on the timeline of the portside prop going offline but thats actually not enough for the USCG to hold a ship.

That's the only damage. Two scratches.

Also looks like prop wash only on the starboard side. Tough to confirm though.

12 minutes ago, Palmetto Pilot said:

how much damage did the ship sustain?

That's just it. It was merely a scratch. If the Freeport rumour is true, then I would conjecture that it's more about getting the engine fixed than any repairs to the hull.