CraigG

The bar is simply table height and the bar tenders are in a sunken well. Of course it feels low.

I would never know though because I CAN NEVER GET 2 SEATS SIDE BY SIDE!

Just kidding. We were getting off Oasis exactly 1 year ago. The cruise was at capacity. The DL was ridiculously crowded. The SL was full of Pinnacles including Super Mario holding court every night. 

That said, I never felt as though I couldn't get a drink at the bar or a table in the CK. I'm not a Pin by far, just a newly minted Diamond and a suite customer. Pinnacle members deserve the SL. I enjoy sharing the space with them.  

21 minutes ago, mjkacmom said:

But it will, I’m sure the majority of people completely forgot about this case if they heard about it at all. To be honest, I know there were similar horror stories happening at zoos, I have no idea what zoos.

My thought exactly. This thread was started  because we are interested parties. The rest of the world could not care less.   

Hi, my name is CraigG and I am a suite addict.  I started in jr suites like everyone else. It felt too good but I knew there was more. Soon i found myself on a hopeless rollercoaster, finally peaking on deck 17. And it was there I learned of the Royal Genie.......

 Just kidding. Grand suites are a wonderful upgrade. You will love it. And will have a hard time going back 😉

21 hours ago, Baron Barracuda said:

A reason for taking this to court is that settling just encourages ambulance chasers to file frivolous claims.  Winkleman has been a pain in Royal's neck for years.  He must have a lot invested in this case so Royal would like nothing better than to beat him in court and watch him walk away empty handed..

When I first responded to a poster in this thread, it was from the perspective of a stockholder. My interest in this is strictly monetary. I win or lose based on RCL's decisions everyday.  

From that perspective I hope their descision on weather to try the case or settle is not based on settling a score with an attorney whose been a pain in their ass. I think the only emotion that will be seen in that court room is a couple of parents sitting there crying throughout the whole thing. 

2 hours ago, sparks1093 said:

I haven't seen much sympathy for the family. I have spoken to many people who aren't cruisers whose thoughts echo those of many here on Cruise Critic vis a vis the grandfather's role.

Don't get me wrong. I think this family is far from doing the right thing by pressing this suit. 

I'm saying RCL has little to gain by going to trial. The jury is not going to consist of a fired up bunch of internet commentators. Plaintiff council will make sure of that. The jury that is seated is probably hearing about this case for the first time and is only going to see real live grieving parents that suffered a horrendous tragic loss. Grandpa is not a plaintiff in this case.  He won't be sitting there at council's table daydreaming about where he going the spend his ill gotten gains. Unless they feel he's a truely sympathetic character, they may not even let him in the room until called as a witness.

Even if RCL wins, which is not nearly the slam dunk many think it is, They have absolutely nothing to gain by dragging this out on the evening news for another week. They settle, it goes away.  

On 2/11/2021 at 12:00 PM, BecciBoo said:

I have already written as a stock holder and given them my opinion not to settle, may not be worth a flip, but I feel better.

I get the RCL shareholder benefit too. I don't think they have anything to gain by going to trial. Even if they win, the court of public opinion tends to look down upon the rich and powerful prevailing over the little guy. This family will be portrayed as victims.

I think the parents would have to be depraved sociopaths to allow this to go to trial. I'm sure their attorneys have made clear to them how it would play out. If it were my child, re-living this event over and over, complete with audio and video would drive me stark raving mad.  

3 hours ago, atanac said:

I believe he thinks if he can convince himself it wasn't his fault he can then live with himself.

Exactly.

Our last cruise was March 1st - 8th,  2020 on Oasis. They were implementing procedures at that time to try and combat the covid spread. They had crews in the MDR disinfecting the tables and chairs between seatings. They were seating patrons in the  Windjammer, not just letting folks wander. Masks were not yet a thing. We have had three cancellations since. Hoping our luck changes this June. 

My wife and I go the opposite route. With an airline loyalty credit card, we can each pack up to 50lbs in our free checked bags. I can literally get inside one of these bags and close the hatch. I think my wife needs somewhere around 20 lbs of shoes so we need the space. We bring no carry on.   

Thanks for the roving review CLfemme. The navigator is our favorite ship. We are from Toledo and departed from terminal A the day before you on Oasis. Looking forward to your insights. 
Go Buckeyes!!

ps... my wife just smacked me for that. ( She’s a Wolverines fan)

16 minutes ago, airbus_guy said:

 

How was the pre-cruise screening?  Anything out of the ordinary or different?  How vigilant are they about the new passport/travel rules?

There was nothing out of the ordinary that I could determine. A routine boarding. There have been no further announcements and the evenings activities are proceeding as if nothing is happening at all.  

The captain informed us a couple hours ago we would be returning to disembark an ill passenger. That all we know on board. 
As we have 2 sea days, he said it would not impact our arrival in St Martin on Wednesday. 

I have to say though, the strangest part of this suite was the 360 degree camera perched right outside our balcony window. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm a RCCL diamond and rank the Navigator as one of my favorite ships. 

Buyer beware when it comes to these converted suites. 

We were Royal up'd to 1106 last fall. The balcony was big enough for us and 100 friends.

The suites were NOT the JS's we've become accustomed to. The bathrooms were small and there was no walk in closet. 

1 hour ago, davekathy said:

Yeah I know the differences between the two. I thought we were talking about the OP. My error. 

 

 

 MDR, OV, CL, OP.  Being a new guy here, all these acronyms are making me dizzy. I'll catch on.

51 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

Which ship has its dining room above the deck where the balconies start?

If he was in a balcony he was probably referring to the windjammer. There was one cruise we were on, directly under the windjammer, and every night after midnight they would start rolling carts around up there. That was annoying but it was the only cruise I've ever experienced it on. 

I've won two "royal ups" in the last year with lousy bids. The only way to be certain of losing is by not bidding. 

3 minutes ago, taglovestocruise said:

As a stock holder that makes me smile....

My wife and I had considered buying last year. I'm thinking the time is coming soon. 

44 minutes ago, Tulsacoker said:

I believe they are required to disclose any financial impact due to them being a traded company 

Understood. Forgive my tongue in cheek response. I'm bored at work today.

Glad to hear the OP is making some headway with this. 

1 hour ago, ssb said:

Royal Caribbean Cruises has commented on the ongoing Coronavirus outbreak.

"It is important that every organization acts responsibly, and we have already taken aggressive steps to minimize risk through boarding restrictions and itinerary changes," said Richard D. Fain, chairman and CEO. "Our shipboard and shoreside teams have been working tirelessly through these circumstances and I want to thank them for all of their extraordinary efforts. We appreciate our responsibility to our guests and to each other, and our focus on public health is unwavering."

As a result of the travel restrictions in place and related circumstances, the company has now cancelled a total of 18 sailings in Southeast Asia and has also modified several itineraries. Taken together, these measures have an estimated impact on the company's financial performance for 2020 of approximately $0.65 per share. While not currently planned, if the company was to cancel all of its remaining sailings in Asia through the end of April, it would impact 2020 financial performance by an additional $0.55 per share.

"As has been widely reported, China and other countries are moving aggressively to contain the spread of the virus. The company communicates regularly with the CDC, the WHO and other health authorities around the world and has implemented measures to protect our guests and crew. These include denying boarding to those that have travelled from, to or through mainland China or Hong Kong in the past 15 days and performing mandatory specialized health screenings on at-risk guests and crew. The company is assessing the developments constantly and will update these measures as needed," the company said.

"There are still too many variables and uncertainties to make a reasonable forecast for 2020. While the early impact due to concerns about the coronavirus is mainly related to Asia, recent bookings for our broader business have also been softer."

If the travel restrictions and concerns over the outbreak continue for an extended period of time, they could materially impact the company's overall financial performance.

 

 

As we can tell by reading this memo, The bottom line is: RCCL is totally committed to our health and well being.

Umm...wait I have that backwards. Should read: RCCL is totally committed to the health and well being of their bottom line.

2 hours ago, Carl Nival said:

Does anyone else secretly hope that there will be lots of cancellations on your cruise so that the buffet lines aren't so long?  Or is that just me?

No, but I do have some "Royal Up" bids out there. Here's hoping Charles4515 scares the timid out of their Star Class suites.

Why does it matter? (serious question) I never even noticed that was on the tag before.  I'm Diamond too. Do the bags get some sort of priority? 

Schooners is always a nice laid back place to meet up and have a drink. On Oasis it overlooks the Promenade so there is plenty of people watching to be had from that vantage point. The furniture is arranged to accommodate parties of your size also. 

We just got an upgrade from JS to Crown Loft on the 1 March Oasis sailing. We bid very close to minimum. We used Jeopardy stategy thinking we would just eclipse all the minimum bidders. I'm pretty sure I won this over other bidders who bid more. I'm very interested in what the actual algorythm is. I'm not sure if this has been debated to death in the previous 189 pages. 

I'm going to start scanning to see if I can get a clue.