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The CEO of Royal Caribbean is hopefully checking his tweets so he can arrive on scene immediately in business casual wear, swaddle at least two of the infants, and be photographed looking concerned. He can then arrange for all the passengers to be airlifted home at which time they will be immediately paid a smalll fortune for their damages. Tsk Tsk. And an engine fire in an up-market brand too. Who knew.
Actually...
*The company's president and CEO Larry Pimentel was planning to fly to Sandakan to meet passengers personally.*
http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=33139902&postcount=54
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In other news....
Competitors are desperately trying to keep up with Costa Cruises' unique "drifting without power" on-board experience. 1,000 people currently sweating just off the Philippines.
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That is the insurance claim and not what was offered by White Star Lines. A huge percentage of that claim is for a necklace worth $20,000. Looking at the numbers from MeasuringWorth, $20,000 from 1912 would compare to at least $464,000.00 in 2010 (last year that numbers are available). That's a heck of a necklace to be taking on a cruise :-).
I remembering reading some where that White Star Lines billed the families of employees who died for their uniforms and other items.
The insurance company(s) that had the policy for White Star covered all claims from passengers - based on other information from the associated Molly Brown article. Similarly to how the insurance companies for Costa are covering the Concordia third party liabilities in 2012, but Costa capped what you are being offered for your possessions at $14,000.
I figured that necklace had to be pretty costly in current day dollars.
Yes, the story is that White Star treated the crew very poorly. They also stopped the crew's pay the minute the ship went down.
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So Costa is giving survivors a mere $14,000
Here is the claim from passenger Molly Brown who was on the Titanic.
Total: $27,947 (and this is from 1912 - I wonder what that is in 2012 dollars).
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Number up to 5...
5 more bodies found in Concordia cruise wreck
GIGLIO, Italy — Search crews in Italy have found five more bodies in the wreck of the Costa Concordia cruise ship, which struck a reef off an Italian island in January.
The development on Thursday raises to 30 the number of bodies found. Two people remain missing and are presumed dead.
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3 more bodies found in Concordia cruise wreck
GIGLIO, Italy — Searchers on Thursday found three more bodies in the wreck of the Costa Concordia cruise ship that capsized off the Italian coast, an official said, raising the number discovered to 28 and leaving four still missing.
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16:05 20 MAR 2012
(AGI) Grosseto - The former captain of the ill-fated Costa Concordia cruise liner, Francesco Schettino, is supposedly writing a book and his memoirs, which is expected to be referred to in court. The book will also reconstruct the tragedy of the ship that capsized on Jan. 13 at the island of Giglio. The book is supposedly going to recount relations with his officers. Part of one chapter is going to be dedicated to his 24-year-old Moldavian dancer girlfriend, Domnica Cemortan.
An American publishing company has supposedly interested in publishing his story. . .
I wonder if the Italian legal system allows you when you are in prison to keep proceeds from a book you wrote about the crime you committed? Shouldn't this money go to the victims?
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I'll wonder if it was an inside job, and how much other loot has been removed by the "official" divers?
The Med is huge on illegal salvage divers (aka shipwreck thieves). Any crowd sophisticated enough to approach and board the Concordia despite the one mile boat limit is probably using a "diving sledge", a motorized underwater container used to carry equipment while diving. Some of these rigs can carry a ton or more of stuff - all while zipping along with a diver at several knots.
In my opinion, either the bell (if actually missing and not fallen off) was an 'inside job', or it was organized crime being brazen enough to send Italian authorities the message 'you can't stop us' and thumbing their noses. There is no item better than a ship's bell for sending this message.
In other news, I just listed a large brass item on eBay. :)
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Italian Tanker ship runs aground off Sicily
ROME (AP) — The crew of an Italian tanker was evacuated by helicopter Saturday after the ship ran aground off Sicily in storm-tossed seas, and took on water in its engine room.
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The ship had come to rest at such an angle that it was impossible to lower lifeboats
Sounds familiar.
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Headline from today's Repubblica:
"So I saved 1.2 million euros"
The business manager had the task to salvage the money from the coffers of the ship: "I threw the bag on the cloth of a boat"
It seems like Costa did a much better job of looking after the money than they did in taking care of the passengers. :(
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I wish I could access the article- when I google search the article- it just takes me to the Financial Times link which won't allow access without registering. How did you get to the link?
I got the link via a Google News Search... this is usually the best way to get access to articles from FT and some other publications. They allow anyone coming directly from Google access to the article. My link will not work directly except for FT subscribers.
Note that if you are in the UK.... you may be blocked to the FT article even via Google.
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Note - this Financial Times artilce is only available to subscribers directly at the FT site. However it is available to everyone who does a Google News search on "Costa crew facing alleged settlement pressure".
Costa crew facing alleged settlement pressure
Highlights:
If crew members on the Concordia want any further work with Costa then they must forfeit their right to claim psychological and physical distress from the wreck and accept a settlement offer that would cover personal money lost on board, personal items lost – up to a maximum of $3,750 – and pay for the remainder of their contracts.
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Brother and sister who worked on Concordia and Allegra back home with mum.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brother-and-sister-who-both-worked-751546
At last, I think we have found the common thread/cause of problems on Costa ships. They are "Jonah's". Does this mum have any other children out on Costa cruise ships? :D
On a serious note it is good to hear her children are home safe and sound.
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Costa Concordia experts set July deadline
Court-appointed experts have until July 21 to complete investigations into the Costa Concordia's “black box” voyage data recorder...
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"You really need some details and reports to case cause and blame on this one."
http://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/concordia-captain-had-2010-crash/story-fn6ck55c-1226287913037
Is that a quote from the article? Because I am not finding it in the article.
I find the following quotes below from the article of interest. I have not seen the full emails that were submitted in evidence. The official report of the incident submitted at the port that has been posted elsewhere is very dry and seems to indicate that wake from Atlantica, which was exceeding designated speed in the port, caused damage to the Aida Blu. Of course, the official report does not touch on any internal discipline or rebukes at the employers.
In another letter referring to the Costa Atlantica incident and dated October 11, 2010, Mr Schettino's superiors at Costa Crociere said he could have avoided the accident had he "showed greater attention and knowledge of the documents that regulate navigation."
In the excerpt of the letter, also published by La Stampa, Costa Crociere also reprimanded Mr Schettino for "ways and tones of communication not in line with those of our company," noting how he had used "inappropriate tones," with the captain of the Aida Blu.
According to La Stampa, the letters are in possession of prosecutors in Grosseto who are leading an investigation into the Costa Concordia's sinking.
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This is pretty lacking in detials and the statement that Costa sent him a letter telling him of the damage inplies that is may have been to another vessel and would be very minor if not known until then.
You really need some details and reports to case cause and blame on this one.
AKK
Someone posted a link to the official incident report in pdf form that was submitted as evidence in another forum that shows more details. I am trying to dig it up.
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My understanding of the event is that he didnt impact the Aida but through the speed he was moving his ship the wash caused damage to it. A large vessel travelling at the speed indicated would give some wash.
regards
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That is my understanding as well. They submitted the report of the incident as evidence in the Italian court proceedings.
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Come on Greg. Read the link. It's not me saying it, it's COSTA!
I brought the link here so people could see what COSTA said.
I did not mean "you" individually but everyone when I stated "I think that you need to start questioning the statements come out of Costa." I apologize if it came across wrong.
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Earlier leaks from the investigation included claims that Schettino was involved in a 2010 incident while at the helm of a cruise ship and that there was a hard-partying atmosphere of drugs and alcohol on board two Costa ships.
Costa Crociere, Europe's biggest cruise operator, has however said that Schettino was never involved in any accidents in his six years as captain and has emphasised that it imposes strict rules against drugs and excess drinking.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-04/survivors-voice-anger-at-italian-shipwreck-hearing/3867208
I think that you need to start questioning the statements come out of Costa. The full summary of this incident of the Costa Atlantica at a speed of 7.7 to 7.9 knots during entry into the port of Warnemunde, causing damage to the Aida Blu cruise ship in June 2010, was submitted as evidence in the trial. Are you trying to say that Schettino was not the captain of the Atlantica of the time?
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Here's some more information coming from the hearing. This one has some interesting information about Schettino and his officers ashore while the rescue continued:
This testimony makes it clear that the captain and officers were on shore by 12:15am and not doing a thing to help:
There was damning testimony, too, from a policeman from Giglio who went to the aid of the ship on the night of the disaster, as terrified passengers clambered into lifeboats, some of which would not deploy properly.
Roberto Galli said that at around 12.15am he saw several of the ship's officers standing on the shore, watching the drama unfold – one of whom was Capt Schettino.
"I told them that I was trying to find a boat in which I could reach the ship and help with the rescue. Several officers, including the vice-captain, said they were ready to go with me. But Schettino at first prevaricated then refused, saying that he had to stay there to coordinate the operation."
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Costa Concordia captain had crashed before
Damaged luxury liner in 2010 while sailing too fast into German port
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Video posted today on La Repubblica:
Photos outside the court proceedings:
http://firenze.repubblica.it/cronaca/2012/03/03/foto/concordia_la_via_la_maxi_udienza-30858318/1/
I would urge everyone to watch the video. It is about six minutes long taken between 12 midnight to 1 am in the morning from a rescue boat helping the victims on the Concordia. In the video, you get the sense of the increasing list of the ship, which is about 25 degrees near midnight going towards 45 degrees by the end of the video. This video shows people in rafts, people in the water, people being rescued off of ropes on the high side of the ship, the empty rope ladder at the bow that the coast guard demanded that Captain Schettino climb up, etc. The video provides some great context and proof of items outlined in news stories.
Concordia News: Please Post Here
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Did the president of Costa ever meet with any of the Concordia or Allegra passengers? Did the president meet them at the dock directly after the incident? Let me help you with the answer - it is "No". Despite saying that Costa CEO Pier Luigi Foschi would meet with survivors on a Sunday after the Concordia shipwreck, survivors stated he was a no show.