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  1. I am sailing on the Breeze 9/11/2016 . Me and my wife are wanting to book a reef fishing excursion through a local guide in Belize. The fishing trip is 400$ for 4 people. We are looking for 2 more people to join us at 100$ per person.

  2. Few thoughts on this chain of events;

     

    1) There's more then one element involved in this horrible industrial accident. I'd strongly suspect when the investigation is completed, you'll find a number of factors contributing to the unfortunate outcome. If the crew member knowingly placed himself in a potential situation to become impaled on moving parts without first assuring himself that there was no possible way that elevator was going to move or activate, this potentially points to either A) improper training/procedural violations, B) potential impaired decision making by the deceased employee or other employees (tox screens would be key here as well as reconstructing the electrician's last hours), and/or C) evaluating the possibility of management pressure for a quick fix to a problem that caused safety bypasses... and we all know no employees are EVER pressured on cruise ships... or are ever found to be impaired... And no, I'm not laying blame or finding fault here. All factors to consider in a normal investigation of an industrial accident.

     

    2) Building on #1 and comments from a previous poster, Lock Out/Tag Out. There had to be more hands in the mix here then just one unfortunate electrician, but at the end of the day the ultimate person responsible for your own safety is YOU. People do get lax, bypass steps, don't follow procedures. The end result is usually not good.

     

    3) Regarding the aired footage, you have to remember there are usually very good pools of money sitting in television news operations just waiting for someone to call with exclusive footage of a juicy news story. Stations pay very well for on-scene views and their ratings go up as a result. The fact that an outside media outlet ended up with the footage just confirms to me that this passenger was possibly hungry for money. Traumatized? Yeah, all the way to the bank. People are normally not motivated to just give out footage like that from the goodness of their hearts.

     

    4) On the flip side, the Miami TV station should have been sensitive to the family and to their viewers. The decision to air that footage was just plain wrong. The footage following the Disney monorail crash in Orlando a few years back resulting in a fatality didn't show the driver that was killed and that was marginal to air at best. Call the station's General Manager, file a FCC complaint, and calling the station's sponsors and complain are the best way to keep that behavior from repeating again. If you let them get away with it, it'll just be worse next time.

     

    5) If I remember correctly, there's a little clause in the standard Carnival cruise contract that states that any images/video footage filmed in, on, or about the ship during the cruise is the property of Carnival, I'm going by memory and naturally paraphrasing here. Carnival could have (not saying SHOULD have) politely reviewed and impounded the guy's footage as being material evidence to a death investigation & a potential crime scene, however they did not. Perhaps what their procedures are in those kind of incidents needs to be looked at more closely.

     

    Anyway, I'm coming at this from an investigations background, like several other professional folks on here. Terrible incident, my sympathies go out to the family. However, the key here is to prevent this from ever, ever happening again - fleet wide!

     

    Eric

     

    I completely agree with this.

  3. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think we have all the facts yet. Elevator accidents happen far too often but I don't think they have time to establish the exact cause. I was meeting in a building with a client a few years back and about 5 minutes before we took the elevator upstairs (which we never ended up doing) a lady was walking into an elevator and the doors slammed shut on her leg and the elevator car shot up. Obviously she died and everything was chaos and the emergency folks weren't there by then except for security and they were freaked out too.

     

    I digress- accidental tragedy sucks. But maybe we should not cast blame yet. Sometimes accidents are just that and there is no evil force to blame.

     

    My heart goes out to the worker's family and to anyone who had to witness such a tragedy.

    Through proper training and procedures most if not all workplace accidents are preventable. I'm not blaming Carnival maybe Carnival does have the proper procedure in place and the employee did not follow said procedure. I'm sure that a proper investigation will reveal the facts. Right now we know that a horrible tragedy did happen and a employee lost their life. I surely hope that changes are made to prevent this from happening again.

  4. I have a $100 on board credit voucher that I am wanting to give away. The cruise is for February 7, 2016 on the Magic. We booked this sailing while on board & they gave it to us, we don't have anyone else that can come on this date. Do y'all know of anyone that would be interested in this sailing?

     

    Me and my wife are booked on this cruise. would we still be able to use it? If so then we would love to have the voucher.

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