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With hindsight there are things they should have probably done form the onset......

1) Actually tested the crew and removed those who were positive from service.

2) put healthy working crew or outside help into full hazmat mode and use only outside packed MRE as food.

3) Really Test all passengers and split off Positive ones as to really keep the quarantine clean since it did become apparent quickly that you didn’t have to show any symptoms to already be spreading the virus. 
 

4) aProblem not easily solved is Japanese culture where saying no or asking for help is deemed a failure......

otherwise the idea itself wasn’t actually bad.

10 minutes ago, kent9xxx1 said:

 

Yeah, quarantine on land achieve the same goal but with better result.  

Who said they should let those guys run around japan and infect their population like the walking dead?  A lot of the people on the cruise are Japanese citizens.  

That however poses the biggest problem no country has a facility large enough to provide full Small group quarantine  for such a number of patients! On th eu-shop you can at least keep them in small family units. There is simply nothing ashore that can provide the same kind of units.

@ Hollysmokes you see I told there was probably a lot going on behind the scenes and that once they got their ducks in a row they would probably come up with a solution.

Glad to hear it may have been solved for you.

While I have all the sympathy in the world for those passengers currently on the Diamond in all honesty they are currently a risk to any population. Over and above that these cruise staterooms are a lot more comfortable than any army base or make shift arrangement. The cruise ship also allows small group quarantine something no other facility could offer for such a substantial number of people.

5 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

 

Were you asked to put yourself in a 14 day quarantine? Or at least self-quarantine until incubation time has past? Asking those who debarked to self-quarantine would align with what other countries are doing (Japan, UK, etc...).

in this case that would  not help since these 5.000 people will be travelling to get home during which time they will be exposed to tens of thousands if not more people a long the  way and that multiplies with each of their contacts

2 minutes ago, janmcn said:

People should be more concerned about the "regular flu" we have here. How many folks are vaccinated for the current flu who are overreacting to their potential exposure to coronavirus? Much more likely to come down with the current flu bug if you go about your business in the USA...airplanes, restaurants, trains, etc. Don't overreact!  I've been on ships with "cruise crud" where the ship sold out of cough syrup...but nobody panicked. Death rate for the current flu isn't different (at least at this time) from the coronavirus.https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-vs-the-flu-how-in-danger-are-you/281-64e443ef-8b51-41da-8646-3e8b7b8a1fc4

Yes Sir that is currently correct (At least what we currently know) however letting this spread uncontrolled leaves the door open since a small mutation somewhere along the way could make the Spanish flu look like a walk in the part.

15 minutes ago, Biker19 said:

Only if buy into the hysteria of this thread.

I would not be so quick to judge. 11 of the 13 cases in Germany are the direct result of ONE SINGLE PERSON coming to a business conference. This person from China showed now signs of symptoms until this person was on the flight home. Fortunately this person was responsible enough to contact the company to let them know of the danger and the company had the foresight to rather shut down than continue to put not only their employees at risk but everyone else they come into contact with and the multiplier of that.....
 

The company immediately shut down its HQ and home quarantined all it’s staff members and the result was still 11 positive diagnoses with some even in families.

one small pointer on the side many insurer form other parts of the world NEVER include the results of such event. You might want to read that pesky fine print and see just what they EXCLUDE

1 minute ago, PortFees45 said:

I'm on this cruise and I'm canceling right now. No way in hell I'd set foot on this ship. 

It not the ship that is the issue - it’s the people 

1 hour ago, marci22 said:

I can understand quarantining people but not on a cruise ship. I'm guessing that no country would be happy about accepting thousands of passengers and having to quarantine them. So they put it back on the cruiseline. 

I get your point but where, near this port do you have the facilities to quickly quarantine 6.000 plus people safely in small groups without putting the local population and over 300 million US citizens in harms way? I am will to bet with you not even  the USA is capable of such a feat.

25 minutes ago, ReneeFLL said:

Surely they can deal with more than one problem at a time.

With all due respect but I think you are underestimating the severity of what is happenIng at all cruise line HQ at the moment.
 

as I said in my original post since the OP is not in the US things may have to be checked over with legal departments in different parts of the world due to other rules and regulations in other parts of the world. This often takes time. I have personally experienced such an event outside of quickly developing global events.

Patience is a virtue especially when the OP is apparently in a part of the world where this virus is playing out and disrupting day to day operations.

I would have to agree - it would beyond stupid and reckless to be disembarking passengers without have test results to be sure. We are talking 5.000 passengers in quarantine to protect over 300 mil 

All take a deep breath it may not actually me you won’t get a refund. All cruise lines have been caught on the left foot by recent medical and political events and it may take some time to clear legal matters and some information simply takes longer to trickle down to the foreign parts of companies. Saw the same happen on a Celebrity cruise. It took more than a week to inform European guests of an embarkation port change.

currently I think they are dealing with a much more important issue namely the Anthem returning with what could possibly be sick guests.

I bet the Americans will do exactly the same - quarantine the whole ship, extract the already sick and test them, if positive and monitor those with direct contact with testing.

There is simply no other way to protect the rest of your population. In some cases humans just cannot be trusted to do as told so you simply have to enforce it. Imagine letting 5.000 people off a cruise ship with instructions to home quarantine and just 1% doesn’t feel they need to comply. Never mind the fact that the vast majority doesn’t live at the port and needs to get home somehow. That is simply not a viable choice,

@ those suggesting the US evacuate US citizens prior to the end of the quarantine get a😫 ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MINDS!?!? from me. That is the whole idea of quarantine to stop the spread! Right now these people are comfortable and as safe as they are going to be - even if they can’t see that way right now. Believe it or not a cruise ship stateroom is more comfortable than any army barracks or any makeshift confinement area.

As to medical attention all those tested positive are removed from the ship and brought to hospitals ashore.

Why would repatriation be so dangerous - here is the reason..... Currently of the 13 cases in Germany 11 were caused by on single person coming from China to take part in work conference. 2 are from a repatriation flight. The reason it seems ( I am saying that with the utmost precaution] we have been able to contain it to a certain extend is that the company shut down immediately and everyone had to go home to quarantine there and if anyone showed signs of illness was moved to hospital all the while still testing those in home quarantine. The repatriation flight people are also in quarantine (army base) with regular testing.

We all need to be sensible here because while this corona is not as deadly as the flu it seems to be highly transmittable and all it could take is a small mutation for it to become a real killer that could make the Spanish flu look like a walk in the park,

Some are already going starr crazy and calling upon Donald Trump to come and rescue them! They insist that they do not feel safe anymore and that the Diamond is unsanitary. 
 

me: you are quarantined to your cabin - are you making such a mess of it? 🙄 well then ask for cleaning supplies and clean up after yourself. 
 

I get that clean sheets and towels will be an issue but this will probably also be addressed shortly. One thing at a time! 
 

As to unsafe wait until you see the inside of a Chinese hospital these days. Lady you would wish you had stayed onboard the Diamond.......

One other thought ships water aka filtered sea water is also not good for everyone either. It is no replacement for a good mineral water of which one should drinking 3 Liters a day.

While I agree not doing anything is not an option but simply replacing it with ships tap water is a no go too. That is basically „dead“ water - sorry for the lack of a better word

You could also use one of those light sleeping bag liners.

If you ge a double one you can fold part of it down the back of the sofa so it cannot slide off the couch. Junior will be snug as a bug inside the light liner and can’t fall off the couch.

It is not just about the yard. It also about all the specialists around the area delivering parts and services to the yard. This is a pretty rural area specilzied in ship building employing several thousands and that is simply not relocatable. Its those specialists that make Meyer so special and this combined volume of specialized know how that is simply not available just any where. If it were possible Meyer would have relocated years ago.

I thought I had seen something like that. I just did pay that much attention to it since this fad has already been curbed in Europe.

I don't think your right on this point. The FAA currently doesn't allow them for commercial use, but privately owned ones can have cameras or whatever it can legally carry.

I guess you hadn't gotten further down the page.....

I thought about this over night...... I really cannot see RCCL or any other cruise line for that matter allowing them. Imagines the mayhem if lets say 10 passengers tried to fly theirs at the sametime! Oh boy just Imaging what the cruiselines insurers are going to say! My bet will be that no cruise line will allow them because the risks are just too big never mind other guests being bothered.

You guys are right it is commercial use that is banned BUT the National Parks Service has confirmed they are not allowed in any National Park especially after some tourist crashed one into a geyser at Yellowstone.

Google FAA and Camera drones - I just did and a recent US ruling says the drones are not illegal BUT taking photos with them is! Now as to being on the high seas well then do not forget the laws in the registery of the ship

Correct me but did I not hear today that FAA considers these drones currenty as illegal? By the way so do many other countries

I do not mean to be insensitive because I am sure you are unwell but you might want to walk to the muster Station early so that you can do it at your own pace. Since you are going to be there before the masses arrive you will most certainly find a seat. Then wait until masses are gone so that you can get an elevator.

It is so important you do the trip at least once for your own sake and do not take the elevator!