smoking policy

[agabbymama]

So you are saying you won't go to another cruise line but others should. Do you see anything odd in that logic? If people did not complain there would still be smoking in offices, theatres etc. I guess you probably think that non smokers should have just gone elsewhere?

 

Non-smokers can sail any line they want JUST DON'T TRY TO CHANGE what they have chosen. They know the smoking policy (OR SHOULD) before booking. If someone smoking on their balcony is a problem for them, then spend their money elsewhere.

 

I don't choose HAL just because of their smoking policy. As a matter of fact, I was able to smoke on all of my cruises.

 

I have smoked for 54 years, so I have gone through all the various smoking/non-smoking issues. If the policies are fair, I don't have a problem. There are plenty of non-smokers who don't mind if someone else smokes.

 

BUT YES, recently I have started going elsewhere. San Diego Zoo is a good example, with their NO SMOKING ON THE PREMISES (even in your own car in the parking lot), you must exit their property. I WILL NOT BE GOING TO THE SAN DIEGO ZOO AGAIN! Even Disneyland, Sea World, Great America all have designated smoking areas. They will get my money, and if they totally remove smoking areas, I would not spend my money there either.

 

You know, when I am planning a cruise (or any vacation really), I make a graph chart. The cruiselines across the top, and what is important to me down the side (size of ship, cabin type, ports, time in ports, excursions, cost, dining options, smoking policy, etc). As I research I put an "X" in the conjoining box. When I near the end of my research one usually has more x's showing me which cruise matches my needs the best. Maybe if everyone did this, there wouldn't be so many disgruntled/unsatisfied customers.

 

SMOKING or NOT SMOKING is NOT THE ONLY ISSUE. Trying to make "one size fits all" is the problem.

[hal lover]

Non-smokers can sail any line they want JUST DON'T TRY TO CHANGE what they have chosen. They know the smoking policy (OR SHOULD) before booking. If someone smoking on their balcony is a problem for them, then spend their money elsewhere.

 

I don't choose HAL just because of their smoking policy. As a matter of fact, I was able to smoke on all of my cruises.

 

I have smoked for 54 years, so I have gone through all the various smoking/non-smoking issues. If the policies are fair, I don't have a problem. There are plenty of non-smokers who don't mind if someone else smokes.

 

BUT YES, recently I have started going elsewhere. San Diego Zoo is a good example, with their NO SMOKING ON THE PREMISES (even in your own car in the parking lot), you must exit their property. I WILL NOT BE GOING TO THE SAN DIEGO ZOO AGAIN! Even Disneyland, Sea World, Great America all have designated smoking areas. They will get my money, and if they totally remove smoking areas, I would not spend my money there either.

 

You know, when I am planning a cruise (or any vacation really), I make a graph chart. The cruiselines across the top, and what is important to me down the side (size of ship, cabin type, ports, time in ports, excursions, cost, dining options, smoking policy, etc). As I research I put an "X" in the conjoining box. When I near the end of my research one usually has more x's showing me which cruise matches my needs the best. Maybe if everyone did this, there wouldn't be so many disgruntled/unsatisfied customers.

 

SMOKING or NOT SMOKING is NOT THE ONLY ISSUE. Trying to make "one size fits all" is the problem.

 

You are so RIGHT ON!

 

I am a former smoker and as long as any smoker is outside or inside where I am not going to be bombarded by the smell, then I say live and let live.

 

There are people who will ONLY see things their way and to heck with anyone else.

 

If the policy states that one CAN smoke in any given area designated, then it is the responsibilty of the non smoker to avoid those areas if it bothers them so much.

[esmo]

I am always hesitant to post on this subject but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents worth out there. We are booked on our first HAL cruise next month to Alaska. It was purely by chance, as we had been booked on a Princess cruise for almost a year and just prior to final payment were forced to cancel that cruise and find something that we could make work to try and salvage a dream trip. HAL and the Westerdam were the only fit in time, intinerary, cabin choice and to a degree price. The smoking being allowed on the verandah was an unanticipated bonus for my husband.

 

On our last cruise Princess had by then banned balcony smoking and he trekked up to the designated area on the Promanade Deck. Thank goodness the weather was decent.

 

I certainly understand non-smokers not wanting to stay in cabins where there have been smokers, nor wanting to sit next to or dine next to those who smoke. He doesn't smoke in the house at home. I fail to understand how the less than 5 minutes a few times a day he smokes on a balcony outside ruins someone else's cruise but we will have to agree to not understand each other.

 

I do wish, as the cruise lines continue to restrict smoking areas, they would provide a protected, comfortable place with easy proximity to perhaps a bar, for smokers. It is unfair to force them out into the elements to stand huddled around some communal ashtray like pariahs. They may smoke, but they also have paid full cruise fare and provide income in bar/dining/excursion purchases. They are not second-class paasengers and their right to enjoy what they have paid for, while not superseding non-smokers certainly should not be subservient to them either.

[Lizzie68]

Non-smokers can sail any line they want JUST DON'T TRY TO CHANGE what they have chosen. They know the smoking policy (OR SHOULD) before booking. If someone smoking on their balcony is a problem for them, then spend their money elsewhere.

 

I don't choose HAL just because of their smoking policy. As a matter of fact, I was able to smoke on all of my cruises.

 

I have smoked for 54 years, so I have gone through all the various smoking/non-smoking issues. If the policies are fair, I don't have a problem. There are plenty of non-smokers who don't mind if someone else smokes.

 

BUT YES, recently I have started going elsewhere. San Diego Zoo is a good example, with their NO SMOKING ON THE PREMISES (even in your own car in the parking lot), you must exit their property. I WILL NOT BE GOING TO THE SAN DIEGO ZOO AGAIN! Even Disneyland, Sea World, Great America all have designated smoking areas. They will get my money, and if they totally remove smoking areas, I would not spend my money there either.

 

You know, when I am planning a cruise (or any vacation really), I make a graph chart. The cruiselines across the top, and what is important to me down the side (size of ship, cabin type, ports, time in ports, excursions, cost, dining options, smoking policy, etc). As I research I put an "X" in the conjoining box. When I near the end of my research one usually has more x's showing me which cruise matches my needs the best. Maybe if everyone did this, there wouldn't be so many disgruntled/unsatisfied customers.

 

SMOKING or NOT SMOKING is NOT THE ONLY ISSUE. Trying to make "one size fits all" is the problem.

 

I think the issue was being told to cruise on another line. Just as you don't choose HAL just because of the smoking policy, many choose HAL for other reasons. That was the point, I believe, that cruzchick was trying to make,

[cruz chic]

Non-smokers can sail any line they want JUST DON'T TRY TO CHANGE what they have chosen. They know the smoking policy (OR SHOULD) before booking. If someone smoking on their balcony is a problem for them, then spend their money elsewhere.

 

I don't choose HAL just because of their smoking policy. As a matter of fact, I was able to smoke on all of my cruises.

 

I have smoked for 54 years, so I have gone through all the various smoking/non-smoking issues. If the policies are fair, I don't have a problem. There are plenty of non-smokers who don't mind if someone else smokes.

 

BUT YES, recently I have started going elsewhere. San Diego Zoo is a good example, with their NO SMOKING ON THE PREMISES (even in your own car in the parking lot), you must exit their property. I WILL NOT BE GOING TO THE SAN DIEGO ZOO AGAIN! Even Disneyland, Sea World, Great America all have designated smoking areas. They will get my money, and if they totally remove smoking areas, I would not spend my money there either.

 

You know, when I am planning a cruise (or any vacation really), I make a graph chart. The cruiselines across the top, and what is important to me down the side (size of ship, cabin type, ports, time in ports, excursions, cost, dining options, smoking policy, etc). As I research I put an "X" in the conjoining box. When I near the end of my research one usually has more x's showing me which cruise matches my needs the best. Maybe if everyone did this, there wouldn't be so many disgruntled/unsatisfied customers.

 

SMOKING or NOT SMOKING is NOT THE ONLY ISSUE. Trying to make "one size fits all" is the problem.

I guess I'm not being clear even though I've explained it over and over. Hal is my favorite line. I also cruise on Princess but I still like Hal the best. So according to you I should go elsewhere. I've never said to any smoker they should go elsewhere. I do not like to be told where I should and shouldn't spend my money, just like I shouldn't tell you where you should spend yours. That is having no respect for me, and that is not right.

[cruz chic]

I think the issue was being told to cruise on another line. Just as you don't choose HAL just because of the smoking policy' date=' many choose HAL for other reasons. That was the point, I believe, that cruzchick was trying to make,[/quote']

 

That's it totally so I guess I am being clear to some. I give up. It seems that some are only interested in what they think and there are no other opinions that are valid. How sad. That speaks volumes.

Edited June 8, 2014 by cruz chic

[babyher]

Non-smokers can sail any line they want JUST DON'T TRY TO CHANGE what they have chosen. They know the smoking policy (OR SHOULD) before booking. If someone smoking on their balcony is a problem for them, then spend their money elsewhere.

 

I don't choose HAL just because of their smoking policy. As a matter of fact, I was able to smoke on all of my cruises.

 

I have smoked for 54 years, so I have gone through all the various smoking/non-smoking issues. If the policies are fair, I don't have a problem. There are plenty of non-smokers who don't mind if someone else smokes.

 

BUT YES, recently I have started going elsewhere. San Diego Zoo is a good example, with their NO SMOKING ON THE PREMISES (even in your own car in the parking lot), you must exit their property. I WILL NOT BE GOING TO THE SAN DIEGO ZOO AGAIN! Even Disneyland, Sea World, Great America all have designated smoking areas. They will get my money, and if they totally remove smoking areas, I would not spend my money there either.

 

You know, when I am planning a cruise (or any vacation really), I make a graph chart. The cruiselines across the top, and what is important to me down the side (size of ship, cabin type, ports, time in ports, excursions, cost, dining options, smoking policy, etc). As I research I put an "X" in the conjoining box. When I near the end of my research one usually has more x's showing me which cruise matches my needs the best. Maybe if everyone did this, there wouldn't be so many disgruntled/unsatisfied customers.

 

SMOKING or NOT SMOKING is NOT THE ONLY ISSUE. Trying to make "one size fits all" is the problem.

 

 

 

 

 

 

LIKE........LIKE.....LIKE..... :)

 

 

Everything in life cannot be all things to all people .

 

But when you are making a choice (about a cruiseline , or anything else in life ) you do your homework and weigh the pros and cons and make a decision. You pick the choice that has the best pros, and the cons that you can live with. Then you go into knowing what you are in for.

[babyher]

I guess I'm not being clear even though I've explained it over and over. Hal is my favorite line. I also cruise on Princess but I still like Hal the best. So according to you I should go elsewhere. I've never said to any smoker they should go elsewhere. I do not like to be told where I should and shouldn't spend my money, just like I shouldn't tell you where you should spend yours. That is having no respect for me, and that is not right.

 

 

 

 

NO Gabbymama is saying weigh the pros and cons of each cruiseline and pick what offers what is most important to you. You say HAL is your favorite line. Obviously it has a good many things that you desire in cruiseline. However one of those things it offers is the ability to smoke on your balcony. If this is more important to you than all the other factors HAL offers than maybe it isn't really the line for you.

[kakalina]

Our last cruise was interesting for me as I have quit smoking and DH has not. I watched what he went through to smoke a cigarette and I don't think it was at all fair. What we spent in the casino so he could smoke indoors was indecent. ( perhaps that is their intent):rolleyes:

 

There should be a well ventilated indoor area where smokers can indulge their habit. He was so disgusted to have to go outside in inclement weather that he started talking about vacationing other than cruising; which I have no interest in. :(

 

We would rather take very long cruises or cruise several times a year in an outside cabin than pay for a balcony. That is our choice. The few times we did bite the bullet and get a balcony we found it too windy most of the time to spend a lot of time out there smoking. If we were in port we were off the ship and in port not chain smoking on the balcony. It was mostly used for that last cigarette before bed when we were already in nightclothes.

[mountainmare]

kakalina-next time you decide to get a veranda cabin get an aft balcony, the ship blocks the wind. This is from a non-smoker who has been bothered by smoke on two cruises in aft balconies, but I wanted to let you know that it would be more comfortable for your DH.

We have moved on to other vacations, you may be surprised or maybe you can alternate vacations. We're just now considering cruising again but DH is reluctant to go back to HAL.