Platinum/Diamond VIFP party guests?

[tatt2ed]

Dont fall off that soap boxe. If its carnival policy shouldn't all you whistle blowers leave it to carnival to police. Take a step back and go back to yelling out the front windows at the neighborhood kids.

[Cruise, J.D.]

It's Carnivals's policy, not mine.

 

So true. Carnival and its employees can modify or enforce their policies as they see fit. Their policies are not immutable laws. Lower level employees are given some discretion. This is especially true for policies that don't involve safety or security issues. See e.g. any number of policies that are routinely modified or not enforced (corkage fee, dress codes, refunds, etc.)

 

Anyone who has ever had any interactions with a business, especially a customer-service oriented business, should know this. Like I said before, common sense.

Edited November 3, 2016 by Cruise, J.D.

[Cruise, J.D.]

Except that the Platinum party isn't a "social occasion"; it's an event to recognize your brand loyalty.

 

Since when did "parties" not become a social occasion"?

 

party - a social event in which entertainment, food, and drinks are provided

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/party?utm_campaign=sd&utm_medium=serp&utm_source=jsonld

[Maraprince]

On Carnival's smaller ships it more a matter of the size of the space allocated for the P/D party than anything else. The whole idea of limiting the invite to P/D only was to get away from mob scene created in the main showrooms by passengers almost fighting each other for free drinks.

 

Also, by limiting the event to only P/D it creates more of a special private function and allows you to see who is in the room (staff and passengers) since the party is held in a smaller venue where you are actually be able to have a conversation with someone rather than competing with passengers only interested in getting as many free drinks as they can.

 

Most of the other major lines also hold special private functions for P/D. Not P/D and no plus one on the invite, find something else to do for 30-45 minutes and then meet up with your partner/cabin mate. Not a big deal.

 

MARAPRINCE

[A&Jfamily]

Except that the Platinum party isn't a "social occasion"; it's an event to recognize your brand loyalty.

 

You are kidding, right?

 

First - it is entitled Platinum/ Diamond VIFP party on the website. Second, a "party" is defined as "a social gathering of invited guests, typically involving eating, drinking, and entertainment."

 

Unless it has drastically changed into some kind of awards ceremony (which is certainly NOT the description I have received from past Platinum cruisers), it involves an invitation to an eating and drinking gathering of individuals to socialize among themselves and the crew. Therefore, it is a social occasion. I'm guessing even FiremanBobsWife would agree with that....

 

Addition: The more I read on here with the response of certain posters, I am beginning to agree that there is a certain snob factor that I was wholly unaware of before. And I will be the first to say that I do NOT fall into the category of rule breaker and do not support those that do - I disagree with smuggling alcohol, I agree with following the dress code, I would never crash a party, my DH no longer smokes a celebratory cigar on our balcony, etc. But I also recognize that "rules" don't cover every circumstance and that if you would like to do something, you just ask for permission. But some even seem to suggest that is "wrong." I am truly shocked at how obsessed people are getting about this precious little party. If some of the posters on here are what is indicative of other Platinums, I think I will find that I prefer NOT to socialize with them.

Edited November 3, 2016 by A&Jfamily

[firemanbobswife]

You are kidding, right?

 

 

 

First - it is entitled Platinum/ Diamond VIFP party on the website. Second, a "party" is defined as "a social gathering of invited guests, typically involving eating, drinking, and entertainment."

 

 

 

Unless it has drastically changed into some kind of awards ceremony (which is certainly NOT the description I have received from past Platinum cruisers), it involves an invitation to an eating and drinking gathering of individuals to socialize among themselves and the crew. Therefore, it is a social occasion. I'm guessing even FiremanBobsWife would agree with that....

 

 

You're right I do agree with that. I think the part that is causing such discord amongst the ranks is this part of your statement "invited guests". One gets invited via invitation. Nothing more, nothing less.

[A&Jfamily]

You're right I do agree with that. I think the part that is causing such discord amongst the ranks is this part of your statement "invited guests". One gets invited via invitation. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

I get that. And I am happy to politely disagree with you that it is OK for me to ask for him to join. If they say no, then I wouldn't attempt to bum rush a party. If you disagree with me asking permission, then we will simply have to chalk that up to difference of opinion...just as we have done, without at any time being nasty to one another.

 

I am guessing that I don't view the world quite as "black and white" as you do; in my job, people do wrong all the time. Let's say they get caught speeding. Many, many, many people get their car calibrated (even though nothing was wrong), want to go to traffic school, basically anything to ask the judge for an exception to the rule. And luckily for them, depending on certain circumstances, a judge will often bend the rules, cut them a break or otherwise do something rather than simply rubber stamp the ticket and follow the law. And if it is OK to ask a judge to cut you some slack, I see zero harm in asking a Carnival employee if my hubby may join. It's all about perspective - and this is mine.:D

[firemanbobswife]

I get that. And I am happy to politely disagree with you that it is OK for me to ask for him to join. If they say no, then I wouldn't attempt to bum rush a party. If you disagree with me asking permission, then we will simply have to chalk that up to difference of opinion...just as we have done, without at any time being nasty to one another.

 

 

 

I am guessing that I don't view the world quite as "black and white" as you do; in my job, people do wrong all the time. Let's say they get caught speeding. Many, many, many people get their car calibrated (even though nothing was wrong), want to go to traffic school, basically anything to ask the judge for an exception to the rule. And luckily for them, depending on certain circumstances, a judge will often bend the rules, cut them a break or otherwise do something rather than simply rubber stamp the ticket and follow the law. And if it is OK to ask a judge to cut you some slack, I see zero harm in asking a Carnival employee if my hubby may join. It's all about perspective - and this is mine.:D

 

 

I appreciate the fact that we can have a civil discussion even if our opinions differ and I thank you for that. It goes to show that we are probably more alike than not. People don't have to agree on everything all the time and it doesn't make one more person right, wrong, better, or worse for voicing what they believe.

 

I think that the majority of folks on here are capable of such discussions even if they ultimately end up in disagreeing. This is a place to discuss all things cruising. Some of which not everyone sees eye to eye on and that's OK. I don't think anyone but the offending parties appreciates the childish behavior of calling people names, mocking, antagonizing, or attacking others as unfortunately happens too often. Even in this very thread (those posts for the most part were taken down).

 

I hope you have a great cruise and that maybe there won't be a lot of P/D people on your sailing and so your invitation will say +1. Then you don't have to think about it again. Anyway, have fun and I'll see ya around!

[ACNCON]

See the portion I highlighted in red. If it says it on the invitation, then it's a yes. If it doesn't then that means no. They probably have a lot of people in that case and therefore aren't inviting guests.

 

Exactly. We actually inquired while on the Breeze in August. I got my platinum invite but everyone else I was travelling with was gold. We asked at GS (we were there for another reason so thought we'd ask as this was my first Plat cruise and didn't know the ins/outs) and they said they cannot allow any guests this cruise due to the high number of P/D sailing. She said that if the numbers of P/D are low then 1 guest is allowed to come.

 

I guess this is why so many people are getting mixed answers from Carnival.

 

And, I didn't end up going but I did hear that they turned people away at the door.

[cainlr]

OMG--this is more entertaining than the political Facebook fight

[Canadian_J]

But I'll quit posting on this now as I have said my piece and it obviously doesn't matter anyway.

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BTW about the fire thing, nice try. Not true, but a good attempt nonetheless.

 

Yet you continued to post twice more about this, please stop beating this dead horse, it's in dreadful pain. I tell you what: if you agree to disagree, I'll give your cabin mate my next invitation lol

 

Also, the fire example was a joke, but I agree with the poster that there'd be some truth to it, given how some on here act (God help them). Let's leave the legalities to the lawyers and just let others do as they do.

 

These are some mighty large first world problems, and this is where I sign off CC for the night. Where's the rum?

[Canadian_J]

OMG--this is more entertaining than the political Facebook fight��

 

Such a nasty topic...

 

:D couldn't resist.

[CruiserKid]

I'm not sure on the Platinum/Diamond Party, but I went to the Diamond Party to greet the captain and the officers. Since I was the only Diamond in my cabin, when I called to RSVP, I asked if it was for me alone or if I could bring one guest. Guest Services said I can bring a guest. When I arrived with 1 guest, I was asked were where the rest of my travel companions. I replied that they were in the cabin. I was asked to get the rest of my companions (2 more) so they can join us.

 

This cruise only had 2 Diamond travelers, a lady, who brought he husband, and myself. I was overwhelmed with all the top chiefs and just me and my group. The lady and her husband came in pretty late. If I had been alone, I probably wouldn't enjoy myself because there would have been too much attention on just me. Luckily, my companions were there to chat with the captain and officers as well.

 

My invitation did not indicate +1, so I thought it was for me alone. My guess is it varies from ship to ship and cruise to cruise. It would have been extremely awkward to b

[A&Jfamily]

Since CruiserKid resurrected this old thread I will report how it turned out. The invitation came and it was not +1. We went to guest services and and asked and they said that it was fine because the numbers were low. The party was a noon - so not the most convenient of times.

 

We went and they had zero issue letting DH in; it was in aback lounge that wasn't even half full. We enjoyed a couple of drinks and a few snacks. (many pre-made went to waste because of lack of guests). I attempted a couple of the guess or trivia things (DH did not) but didn't win. All in all we were maybe there for an hour max.

 

For us, this was the right way to handle it and will do so again for the next two cruises before he makes platinum. If they ever say no, we will pass as it would not appeal to me to go solo.

 

 

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[Cruise-Crazy]

I se no problem bringing him.

[Ms. Fun Bunch]

The bottom line is since your husband is not Platinium he is not invited to the party. I know you want to bring him with you but you shouldn't.

[Ms. Fun Bunch]

It doesn't "bother" me, as I explained in an earlier post, in the sense that I am not afraid of attending by myself, or speaking to total strangers. My husband could happily go to the casino. It isn't a logistical "big deal;" perhaps that's why you are reading to much into my question. I have zero issue with not going to the party, or going if he is "feeling" the casino,taking a nap etc.

 

What I do take issue with is on a much broader societal level, concerning common manners. I am not traveling with my mom, best friend, cousin etc; I am traveling with my husband. He is my partner in life. Social convention is (or perhaps "was" as our society continually seems to devalue marriage) that is is "rude" to hold a party and attempt to invite only one party to a marriage. It is acceptable to invite a single person, alone, without adding "and guest;" I do not feel that the same is true for married persons. You can invite Miss Smith to your wedding, and not add "and guest," but you shouldn't invite Mrs. Smith and intentionally leave off Mr. Smith - it is rude. To quote Miss Manners - even in those circumstances where the spouse is repugnant:

 

"Common to all social occasions is the question of whether half a couple may be invited. Considering that we no longer know what makes a couple, this is a tricky problem.Marriage is a sure qualifier, which is why those gold-diggers and freeloaders who forced their way into the family get to accompany the blood relatives. So, now, is para-marriage. People who are living together in romantic partnership must also be treated as a social unit."

 

I believe John Heald and others on here inherently recognize that belief. If you do not, then we will simply have to disagree.

 

My goodness this is just too much!!! The invitation has nothing to do with being married or not or traveling with your spouse or not. It is about whether you are Platinium or diamond!!!!

[LMHSRN]

Bottom lime. If he didn't earn it, don't take him. I am sure there are lots and k\lots of other Golds on board and they don't get to go. You earned the status. Go and enjoy - or not!

[A&Jfamily]

Did anyone read post 64???

 

This was an old thread someone redirected and I have long since taken that cruise!

 

Post 64 explains how it worked out.

 

 

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