Kurbanfan Posted June 22, 2007 #326 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Lighten up a little, I understand the point. I was just trying to show that crime is more likely to happen in the US than in Jamaica per 1000 people. Do the majority of these crimes happen to tourists while on vacation......say when they get off in port from a cruise ship:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr1634 Posted June 22, 2007 #327 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Well thats interesting. After hearing crime was 10X higher in Jamaica than anywhere else etc etc here are some stats that say that ain't so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick52 Posted June 22, 2007 #328 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Do the majority of these crimes happen to tourists while on vacation......say when they get off in port from a cruise ship:cool: Does it really matter? They are crimes against people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted June 22, 2007 #329 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Does it really matter? They are crimes against people. Uh yes........if you are referring to the topic of this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick52 Posted June 22, 2007 #330 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Uh yes........if you are referring to the topic of this thread... OK, you have your opinion and I have mine. Except mine is supported by fact not speculation. If you have better data to support your opinion please provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lornadoons Posted June 22, 2007 #331 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Just to add some REAL statistics to this thread. Try reading this http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri_percap-crime-total-crimes-per-capitaYou'll see that Jamaica is #37 and the U.S. is #8. this is just insane... so, if the US is ranked so high, why don't we all just pack our bags and move to Jamaica!!!!... According to these stats :confused: , Jamaica is WAY more safe than the USA... now i don't feel safe living here all of my life... but one day in Jamaica????? stats, smats........ where do YOU want to live and raise your kids????? and once again... our country is a lot larger than the little island of Jamaica.... lets take one city and compare... and it doesn't have to be Houston, Newark or Detroit... (okay, I said I would "hold my typing finger, but...) Back to the original reason for this forum... BEWARE IN JAMAICA... (and I guess even beware MORE in the good ole USofA...) Kenneth, bluebonnet... how do you feel about those stats???? :rolleyes: The comparison isn't even worthy of looking at "stats"... am I crazy....??? (okay, I'll be quoted and many will say YES!!!:) ) And I agree with the last poster on these so called stats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted June 22, 2007 #332 Share Posted June 22, 2007 OK, you have your opinion and I have mine. Except mine is supported by fact not speculation. If you have better data to support your opinion please provide. This thread is not about what country has the highest crime rate....... So I'm not sure where you are going with this:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted June 22, 2007 #333 Share Posted June 22, 2007 this is just insane... so, if the US is ranked so high, why don't we all just pack our bags and move to Jamaica!!!!... . LOL! And let's not forget that they don't throw drug dealers in jail in Jaimaca.....which would not be on the so called statistics....... But hey if you purchased it from them you can bet your arse you will be thrown in..:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick52 Posted June 22, 2007 #334 Share Posted June 22, 2007 this is just insane... so, if the US is ranked so high, why don't we all just pack our bags and move to Jamaica!!!!... According to these stats :confused: , Jamaica is WAY more safe than the USA... now i don't feel safe living here all of my life... but one day in Jamaica????? stats, smats........ where do YOU want to live and raise your kids????? and once again... our country is a lot larger than the little island of Jamaica.... lets take one city and compare... and it doesn't have to be Houston, Newark or Detroit... (okay, I said I would "hold my typing finger, but...) Back to the original reason for this forum... BEWARE IN JAMAICA... (and I guess even beware MORE in the good ole USofA...) Kenneth, bluebonnet... how do you feel about those stats???? :rolleyes: The comparison isn't even worthy of looking at "stats"... am I crazy....??? (okay, I'll be quoted and many will say YES!!!:) ) And I agree with the last poster on these so called stats... I'll answer you first, the "Stats" are based on per 1000 people. That's the only way to make a statistical correct comparison and the truth is crime is higher in the US than in Jamaica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick52 Posted June 22, 2007 #335 Share Posted June 22, 2007 This thread is not about what country has the highest crime rate.......So I'm not sure where you are going with this:confused: If you read all the posts you will see that most posters are saying that Jamaica is totally crime ridden and that's just not true based on statistical data. That's ALL I'm trying to say. Don't tell me that something is black if the stats tell me it's actually white. OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted June 22, 2007 #336 Share Posted June 22, 2007 the truth is crime is higher in the US than in Jamaica. Again no one is disputing this. Could it be because our laws are enforced;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted June 22, 2007 #337 Share Posted June 22, 2007 If you read all the posts you will see that most posters are saying that Jamaica is totally crime ridden and that's just not true based on statistical data. OK? So because the stats show the US has more crime this means that Jamaica can't be totally crime ridden:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick52 Posted June 22, 2007 #338 Share Posted June 22, 2007 So because the stats show the US has more crime this means that Jamaica can't be totally crime ridden:confused: I don't think I said that, but in the US you are 4.625 times more likely to be a statistic of a crime than in Jamaica. How's that? Also, I've been there, so "I" don't think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick52 Posted June 22, 2007 #339 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I've got one last question. When was the last time someone posted on CC about being robbed in Jamaica besides this time? I asking because since I've been on this board I haven't seen anything about robberies in Jamaica. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted June 22, 2007 #340 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I don't think I said that, but in the US you are 4.65 times more likely to be a statistic of a crime than in Jamaica. How's that? Also, I've been there, so "I" don't think it is. You said based on the stats it is not possible for Jamaica to be totally crime ridden.... By all means if you feel safe going to Jamaica then go. The victims are on here out of the goodness of their hearts to let people know that the cruiselines are advertising a product under false pretense. This is info is to help not hinder.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick52 Posted June 22, 2007 #341 Share Posted June 22, 2007 You said based on the stats it is not possible for Jamaica to be totally crime ridden....By all means if you feel safe going to Jamaica by all means go. The victims are on here out of the goodness of their hearts to let people know that the cruiselines are advertising a product under false pretense. This is info to help not hinder.... Actually this is what I said......."If you read all the posts you will see that most posters are saying that Jamaica is totally crime ridden and that's just not true based on statistical data." If you're going to quote me please get it correct, thanks. I understand the info is to help not hinder, but let's not make it sound like the sky is falling either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhsieh Posted June 22, 2007 #342 Share Posted June 22, 2007 crime is more likely to happen in the US than in Jamaica per 1000 people. I have a lovely condo for sale in Fallujah if you're instersted.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick52 Posted June 22, 2007 #343 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I have a lovely condo for sale in Fallujah if you're instersted.:) Come on now, you're just being silly! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starketcher Posted June 22, 2007 #344 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Well thats interesting. After hearing crime was 10X higher in Jamaica than anywhere else etc etc here are some stats that say that ain't so. I do not know your age or education level, but one class ins Statisics will teach you that statitstic lie! By that, I mean, take any given set of numbers and factor in some obstacle, and you can skew the outcome. For instance, let's take the US crime level, and now factor out the crimmes committed between known individuals and also facotr in the drug/gang-level, and you ahve totally differnet statistics. Or let's, thrun this around and take Jamaica's crime statisitcs, factor in drugs and tourists and there's goes up tremendously!! For those reasons, I tend not to look so much to statistics and look more towards experience. My experience and others have not been comforting in Jamaica! If others choose to go, that is fine, but I will not book a cruise or vacation that goes to Jamaica. The only way to stop this type behaviour towards tourist, especially when the govt. there is corrupt, is to take the tourist factor away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lornadoons Posted June 22, 2007 #345 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I have a lovely condo for sale in Fallujah if you're instersted.:) :rolleyes: what about Haiti jhsieh?? I thought you had a special place in your heart there? :D How did this forum get to this place anyhow? I think I'll sign off and sit back and enjoy the entertainment from now on... there are some interesting "stats" here... (and yes, they are appreciated... just some are ridiculous when you really get down to what was the original discussion) Enjoy everyone... If I come back on here... DELETE me please... I have no one to support me on my end and tell me NO! :D And remember the original topic of this forum! 17 PEOPLE ROBBED ON CONQUEST JAMAICA EXCURSION... NOT, which US city or country or island is worse than Jamaica... thankfully we had a decent experience there, unlike many others (friends included) who have been there... and don't even know about this site...stats or no stats, you will never find me back... I'll be sipping my margaritas on another island.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted June 22, 2007 #346 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Actually this is what I said......."If you read all the posts you will see that most posters are saying that Jamaica is totally crime ridden and that's just not true based on statistical data." If you're going to quote me please get it correct, thanks. I understand the info is to help not hinder, but let's not make it sound like the sky is falling either. And this is what I quoted you as saying: You said based on the stats it is not possible for Jamaica to be totally crime ridden.... You are right I did quote you wrong....you said true and I said possible:rolleyes: Okey dokey..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick52 Posted June 22, 2007 #347 Share Posted June 22, 2007 And this is what I quoted you as saying:You said based on the stats it is not possible for Jamaica to be totally crime ridden.... You are right I did quote you wrong....you said true and I said possible:rolleyes: Okey dokey..... Finish it.............."based on statistical data." Now you've got it correct and I'm still accurate. Thanks. Oh, and what's up with the eye rolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted June 22, 2007 #348 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Finish it.............."based on statistical data." Now you've got it correct and I'm still accurate. Thanks. Oh, and what's up with the eye rolling? Are you for real:confused: May I suggest a reading comprehension course..... Originally Posted by Kurbanfan And this is what I quoted you as saying: You said BASED ON THE STATS it is not possible for Jamaica to be totally crime ridden.... You are right I did quote you wrong....you said true and I said possible:rolleyes: Okey dokey..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted June 22, 2007 #349 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Ok now I'm ready for some popcorn:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick52 Posted June 22, 2007 #350 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Are you for real:confused: May I suggest a reading comprehension course..... Originally Posted by Kurbanfan And this is what I quoted you as saying: You said BASED ON THE STATS it is not possible for Jamaica to be totally crime ridden.... You are right I did quote you wrong....you said true and I said possible:rolleyes: Okey dokey..... You're the one making it personal. I was just trying to make a point. Nice debating with you. You take care and have a nice day. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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