maxamuus Posted April 13, 2009 #1 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Looks like its a done deal. Any gueses on how long till Carnival changes cruises to stop at the island of Cuba? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090413/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_cuba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psbtrvlr Posted April 13, 2009 #2 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Looks like its a done deal. Any gueses on how long till Carnival changes cruises to stop at the island of Cuba? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090413/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_cuba It's only for Cuban families at this time. Carnival, nor any other line, can start putting them on the itineraries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemurCat Posted April 13, 2009 #3 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Looks like its a done deal. Any gueses on how long till Carnival changes cruises to stop at the island of Cuba? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090413/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_cuba Don't get all excited, Max: "President Barack Obama is allowing Americans to make unlimited trips and money transfers to family in Cuba and easing other restrictions Monday to usher in a new era of openness toward the island nation ruled by communists for 50 years." So unless Carnival is chartering out a boat to a group who all have family living in Cuba, you're gonna have to wait a little while yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxamuus Posted April 13, 2009 Author #4 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Opps i must have over-looked the family part. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedjazz Posted April 13, 2009 #5 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Looks like its a done deal. Any gueses on how long till Carnival changes cruises to stop at the island of Cuba? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090413/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_cuba Six Months, but I have a Question...Do you really want to give your $$$ to the current Cuban Government and Political system? Don't flame, just answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunu Posted April 13, 2009 #6 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Six Months, but I have a Question...Do you really want to give your $$$ to the current Cuban Government and Political system? Don't flame, just answer the question. I've visited Cuba (and many other countries), that's not a concern to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxamuus Posted April 13, 2009 Author #7 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Six Months, but I have a Question...Do you really want to give your $$$ to the current Cuban Government and Political system? Don't flame, just answer the question. No flame but.... How much money do we give China every year? Whats the differnce between the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudaze11 Posted April 13, 2009 #8 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I would probably go to Cuba if available. I don't agree with their politics but nor do I agree 100% with the politics here either (or anywhere else). If we open up with them, just maybe they will open too and their will be a little less oppression and strain on the people their Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Mach* Posted April 13, 2009 #9 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Looks like its a done deal. Any gueses on how long till Carnival changes cruises to stop at the island of Cuba? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090413/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_cuba I could be mistaken but I think that this move only applies to Cuban Americans with family in Cuba, not the citizenry in general. Now, had it been open to the general populace it would still take at least six months to react to the availability of Cuba as a port... Logistics for an influx of ships with 3000+ passengers would have to be made, tours and tour operators would have to be developed and evaluated, contracts would need to be entered into, blah, blah, blah... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedjazz Posted April 13, 2009 #10 Share Posted April 13, 2009 No flame but.... How much money do we give China every year? Whats the differnce between the two? I know I don't give them any if I can help it or knowingly and I don't give my Vacation Dollars to either, but then that's just me. I'm not saying anyone else shouldn't spend their money however they choose. Like I said just a question to ponder. I'm thinking of maybe Vacationing in North Korea, anyone want to join me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbjl24 Posted April 13, 2009 #11 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I know I don't give them any if I can help it or knowingly and I don't give my Vacation Dollars to either, but then that's just me. I'm not saying anyone else shouldn't spend their money however they choose. Like I said just a question to ponder. I'm thinking of maybe Vacationing in North Korea, anyone want to join me? I'm in! I hear they have a new "space center" we could check out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copvet Posted April 13, 2009 #12 Share Posted April 13, 2009 To answer your orignal question Ted...NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt091605 Posted April 13, 2009 #13 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Even if travel restrictions are lifted. It will take years to rebuild the tourist sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted April 13, 2009 #14 Share Posted April 13, 2009 i'm in! I hear they have a new "space center" we could check out! lmao!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemurCat Posted April 13, 2009 #15 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I could be mistaken but I think that this move only applies to Cuban Americans with family in Cuba, not the citizenry in general. Now, had it been open to the general populace it would still take at least six months to react to the availability of Cuba as a port... Logistics for an influx of ships with 3000+ passengers would have to be made, tours and tour operators would have to be developed and evaluated, contracts would need to be entered into, blah, blah, blah... :rolleyes: Hey Mach, any idea if they have a deep water port capable of handling a Dream-sized ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanFromFL Posted April 13, 2009 #16 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Looks like its a done deal. Any gueses on how long till Carnival changes cruises to stop at the island of Cuba? Not anytime soon. Remember, we're still fighting those wretched godless pinko red Cuban commies, after all. Not the wretched godless pinko red Chinese commies, mind you, just the Cuban variety. After all, those wretched godless pinko red Chinese commies don't repress their people, right? Just the Cuban commies. After all, Cuba doesn't hold $2 trillion worth of American debt like our Chinese overlords. And supply 99% of just about everything we consume or wear. So let's keep up the struggle against those wretched godless pinko red Cuban commies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolaAlive Posted April 13, 2009 #17 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Even if travel restrictions are lifted. It will take years to rebuild the tourist sites. Tourists have been going to Cuba forever. It is only Americans that are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanFromFL Posted April 13, 2009 #18 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I'm in! I hear they have a new "space center" we could check out! And we could be treated to that wonderful patriotic music from their spaceship! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedjazz Posted April 13, 2009 #19 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Not anytime soon. Remember, we're still fighting those wretched godless pinko red Cuban commies, after all. Not the wretched godless pinko red Chinese commies, mind you, just the Cuban variety. After all, those wretched godless pinko red Chinese commies don't repress their people, right? Just the Cuban commies. After all, Cuba doesn't hold $2 trillion worth of American debt like our Chinese overlords. And supply 99% of just about everything we consume or wear. So let's keep up the struggle against those wretched godless pinko red Cuban commies! Aren't we being just a bit extreme? It was just a question, you added the filler to meet your own agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolaAlive Posted April 13, 2009 #20 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Six Months, but I have a Question...Do you really want to give your $$$ to the current Cuban Government and Political system? Don't flame, just answer the question. I don't want to give $$$ to any government including the US. I especially don't want to support a party that lost touch with what America is about and wants (Hint - they lost the last election). Traveling to Cuba will put the majority of money spent in the hands of the people, not the government. I would think the US auto industry, ruined by unions and mis-management, would be delighted to supply parts to the junker cars. We sell rice to China and Russia, why not Cuba? Hell, we even have diplomatic connections to the Taliban. China is now developing Cuba's offshore oil fields because US companies, 90 miles away, were prohibited from doing so. Where do you think the Chinese got the technology from? The US only does business with communist and oppressive countries that are capable of challenging the US. Cuba is no threat to the US. FYI, The unemployment rate in Cuba is 1.8%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemurCat Posted April 13, 2009 #21 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Why not? 2 reasons .... 1. They never made good on their promise to repay Americans for lands taken during their Revolution. 2. They tried to put a strategic nuclear missile firing platform 90 miles off of our coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copvet Posted April 13, 2009 #22 Share Posted April 13, 2009 And how far is Cuba from American soil? And how far is China? And why did we have the Cuban Missle Crisis in the early 60's? Hmmmm:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedjazz Posted April 13, 2009 #23 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I don't want to give $$$ to any government including the US. I especially don't want to support a party that lost touch with what America is about and wants (Hint - they lost the last election). Traveling to Cuba will put the majority of money spent in the hands of the people, not the government. I would think the US auto industry, ruined by unions and mis-management, would be delighted to supply parts to the junker cars. We sell rice to China and Russia, why not Cuba? Hell, we even have diplomatic connections to the Taliban. China is now developing Cuba's offshore oil fields because US companies, 90 miles away, were prohibited from doing so. Where do you think the Chinese got the technology from? The US only does business with communist and oppressive countries that are capable of challenging the US. Cuba is no threat to the US. FYI, The unemployment rate in Cuba is 1.8%. Oops, didn't mean to set off a political debate. This could get ugly, so just let me say this without resorting to a whole bunch of name calling, Cuba (right now) is not for me. If things change then maybe I might look at it differently. Others may feel differently and that's fine with me. Different strokes for different folks...no pun intended. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaKrznNubie Posted April 13, 2009 #24 Share Posted April 13, 2009 A whole other thread on this.... http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=964742 And yes, all the political rhetoric and name calling is in the other thread. Nothing has changed, unless you are an American citizen with family living in Cuba.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isasprings Posted April 13, 2009 #25 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Even if travel restrictions are lifted. It will take years to rebuild the tourist sites. Yes this is true..........I think more than that....you can find a lot of poor people but not happy on my visit they told me what is the REAL Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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