Cruise_Kitten Posted August 27, 2009 #51 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I honestly dont know why they are so unclear on the dress code rules for each ship. And why on certain ships they are rather particular about dress and on others rather relaxed. it states in the broucher that the dress code of the night applies to all areas of the ship, yet once on board it can be a completely different story. If it was clearer, which to me nothing is on P&O, then problems like this would not occur. CK x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History addict Posted August 27, 2009 #52 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Hi Dai Not all OV cruisers are wanting P and O to change their dress codes and some of us are happy to comply with whatever it is. In fact I'm still considering P and O alongside Fred Olsen for a fjord cruise next spring (I'm trying FO out on a minicruise to Rouen this weekend) However P and O are not helping anyone by having policies then not sticking to them. They are sending out a lot of mixed messages and this will lead to unhappy passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraLass41 Posted August 27, 2009 #53 Share Posted August 27, 2009 On a formal night the dress code is formal, why rebel? Stopgo remembers seeing one person in shorts at the captains welcome party - people remember that one person because they will stand out against the norm -everyone else will be in formal wear. Kitten, don't miss the lovely 5 course meal in the main restaurant which may include lobster or beef wellington for example just because you won't put on a dress or smart formal trousers and then end up eating in the ss buffet restaurant. The pando lady explained the rules as everyone sees them, if you can't follow them then perhaps p&o is not for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopgo Posted August 27, 2009 #54 Share Posted August 27, 2009 On a formal night the dress code is formal, why rebel? Stopgo remembers seeing one person in shorts at the captains welcome party - people remember that one person because they will stand out against the norm -everyone else will be in formal wear. Kitten, don't miss the lovely 5 course meal in the main restaurant which may include lobster or beef wellington for example just because you won't put on a dress or smart formal trousers and then end up eating in the ss buffet restaurant. The pando lady explained the rules as everyone sees them, if you can't follow them then perhaps p&o is not for you. But that's not the case, Karen posts clearly that on Aurora in July/August the "shipwide code " was smart casual, with smart casual allowed in the buffet on formal nights. Ventura will be the same if not less formal, it as to be said shorts and vest is not smart casual so shouldn't have been allowed. Sorry to be at odds with you yet again, from her posts Kitten doesn't want to dress for formal if she doesn't feel like it. So what ever the menu it makes no difference, I know the formal nights mean a great deal to you but to others they can ether take them or leave them. Sometimes after a long day you just want the option of not dressing up to the nines and just relaxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenR_UK Posted August 27, 2009 #55 Share Posted August 27, 2009 But that's not the case, Karen posts clearly that on Aurora in July/August the "shipwide code " was smart casual, with smart casual allowed in the buffet on formal nights. That was my understanding, but apparently I'm wrong:rolleyes:. I can't prove it - perhaps I did misunderstand, but I don't see the need to say 'this is a formal venue tonight' if the whole ship is formal:confused:; I will, when I get a chance check my 'daily papers' to see if they clarify it, but I have a feeling my impression came from reading the onboard 'welcome' or 'your ship' (type) booklet/binder. I enjoy dressing for dinner & enjoy the formality, which is why we tended to stay in the 'formal' areas. & why I am so hazy on the other area. There were people 'dressed down' (jeans) but they weren't served in the 'formal' areas, seemed the perfect compromise to me. Karen (I have also read elsewhere (on another board) that the 24hr dining areas are deemed casual, but there was no supporting evidence with these posts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontius Navigator Posted August 27, 2009 #56 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I don't have my daily sheets with me but on Aurora they had a notice at the entrance to Andersons requiring formal dress on formal nights. Now if it was really ship ride that would have been unnecessary. On Oceana, while some people were wearing Tux in the Plaza they were in the minority. We were however talking of less than 2 dozen in all. In the dining room, while our table of 8 was fully compliant, on the table for 6 behind us the men all removed their jackets and bow ties. I cannot think why they bothered to dress. On Celebrity we saw a young man pulled up for not wearing a jacket; he was allowed in as his jacket was on his chair. On P&O, OTOH, they set rules but do not seem to police them. In a responsible society it is up to the passengers to conform rather than have style police on patrol. [We wish they would police sunbeds though :)] As for someone at head office saying one thing but the ship saying another - HO sets the rules whereas the Captain is the one that has discretion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenR_UK Posted August 27, 2009 #57 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I will, when I get a chance check my 'daily papers' to see if they clarify it, I have now found the relevant paragraph From 'horizon' the daily paper for 17th July 2009 (embarkation day) Dress CodePlease note that the ‘dress code’ notice in horizon every day applies to the Medina and Alexandria restaurants and also Crow’s Nest and Andersons bars after 6pm. The dress requirement in the nightly Orangery Buffet is ‘smart casual’. We ask that gentlemen refrain from wearing sports vests, other vests or sleeveless shirts whilst attending any restaurant or buffet meal admittedly it doesn't mention the other venues As for someone at head office saying one thing but the ship saying another - exactly, cos then I found From 'Your Holiday Information' (sent* approx 6 weeks prior to embarkation) When on board the daily newspaper details the dress codes for each evening which are encouraged throughout the ship from 6pm and to ensure that we can maintain the unique atmosphere we kindly ask that you adhere to these So who knows! :rolleyes::confused: (There is no similar statement in in the Oceana paper of 2005) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy67 Posted August 27, 2009 #58 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I've been reading this with some interest over the last few days and was amazed that one of you said the dress code is from 6!?? Just wondered what happens to people wandering back to their cabins after six who have been in the gym or sunbathing/ swimming - do you get people with towels around them in the lifts next to people in ball gowns.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David&Heather Posted August 27, 2009 #59 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Highly ambiguous:confused: Karen's assesment of the situation comes across as honest and unbiassed, hope she is right. Her and Stopgo appear not to have an axe to grind against those who prefer alternatives to formal evenings unlike some on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopgo Posted August 27, 2009 #60 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I'm amazed with the amount of Cruises that have taken this year by people on this site, nobody as come back with a definate answer to the dresscode question. Logic would dictate that you don't dress up in a Dinner Suit to eat in the 24 hr buffet restaurant, the fact that the buffet is open 24hr would suggest it's Casual Dinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David&Heather Posted August 27, 2009 #61 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I'm amazed with the amount of Cruises that have taken this year by people on this site, nobody as come back with a definate answer to the dresscode question. Logic would dictate that you don't dress up in a Dinner Suit to eat in the 24 hr buffet restaurant, the fact that the buffet is open 24hr would suggest it's Casual Dinning. Be carefull stopgo, your statement might be treated as an outbreak of common sense - you know that's not allowed:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontius Navigator Posted August 27, 2009 #62 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I'm amazed with the amount of Cruises that have taken this year by people on this site, nobody as come back with a definate answer to the dresscode question. Logic would dictate that you don't dress up in a Dinner Suit to eat in the 24 hr buffet restaurant, the fact that the buffet is open 24hr would suggest it's Casual Dinning. Stopgo, you can't get any more definitive than the fact that Formal Dining applies throughout the ship except where it doesn't or where it states specifically that you must.:D Rephrase the answer. Dress formally the first night and then see what everyone else is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopgo Posted August 27, 2009 #63 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I'm in agreement play it by ear, I just don't understand why in the amount of time these various threads about formalwear have been going, that somebody as not returned from holiday and posted the revelent information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontius Navigator Posted August 27, 2009 #64 Share Posted August 27, 2009 stopgo, I have just come back just 2 weeks ago and have posted all the relevant information. What more can I say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopgo Posted August 27, 2009 #65 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Sorry P/N I thought you were posting in general terms, I was only aware of Karen returning from holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise_Kitten Posted August 28, 2009 #66 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I just dont like the idea of it being told that the dress of the night is "shipwide" and then being on board and finding out it's not. Would be so much easier if they did what pretty much every other cruise line did, except the likes of Cunard and Silver Seas, where the buffet is casual. Who honestly would feel like a complete ninny stood in a tux or dress with a plastic tray in there hands choosing there meal off the buffet? I'll raise my hand to that... CK x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnthed0g Posted August 28, 2009 #67 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I posted an email from P&O that said exactly the same, Buffet = smart casual but in other places it says ''all areas apply the dress code''.I don't know what to say, part of me says yes, common sense tells us we don't want to stand at a buffet in full evening dress but also do we want to go to the theatre or other bars when people there are dressed in jeans & a tee shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopgo Posted August 28, 2009 #68 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Yes John but jeans and T/shirt aren't smart casual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontius Navigator Posted August 28, 2009 #69 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I just dont like the idea of it being told that the dress of the night is "shipwide" and then being on board and finding out it's not. a tux or dress with a plastic tray in there hands choosing there meal off the buffet? I'll raise my hand to that... CK x If it is Oceana worry not. No trays. Quite agree though CK but I would guarantee that if you went smart casual to the buffet, effectively 'above decks' you would not be in the minority nor anyone bat an eye. While they expect passengers to conform without policing they recognise that you are paying for a holiday and provided your enjoyment does not affect others then laisez faire exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopgo Posted August 28, 2009 #70 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Pay attention P/N, Cruise Kitten is sailing on the Ventura not the Oceana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thranite Posted August 28, 2009 #71 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Pay attention P/N, Cruise Kitten is sailing on the Ventura not the Oceana. She will be needing the white shell-suit and Burberry gear then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnthed0g Posted August 28, 2009 #72 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Yes John but jeans and T/shirt aren't smart casual. Agree, but that won't stop 'em.... I saw someone in the casino on Artemis dressed exactly as that .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stopgo Posted August 28, 2009 #73 Share Posted August 28, 2009 She will be needing the white shell-suit and Burberry gear then. No points for orginality, maximum points for stereotypeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Brit Posted August 28, 2009 #74 Share Posted August 28, 2009 No points for orginality, maximum points for stereotypeing. And nul points for typing. Sir Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pontius Navigator Posted August 28, 2009 #75 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Pay attention P/N, Cruise Kitten is sailing on the Ventura not the Oceana. My comment If it is Oceana worry not. No trays. was a generic one refering to Oceana, trays, and formal dress and not to CK's intended cruise. That's my excuse and I am sticking with it.:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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