Craps Players Step Inside!

[NancyNM]

Where is there?

 

 

Santa Ana Star Casino (Indian casino near Albuquerque).

 

Sorry, I doubt you'll find such a favorable table on a cruise ship!

 

Nancy

[Lisa&Neb]

One thing that does irritate me is after a point goes down, and I have two or three Come bets on the table, the morons that root for a 7 on the Come out roll. They just don't understand the game IMO.

 

I play do's and don't when do'es. I play pass with x2 odds. after point I play the inside #'s for min. I also drop a come. I use the come and place to go x2 odds, and drop another come, repeat. I always have an off and on. I make 6-8, 5-9 always the same. I go up a unit with every hit to max. once the inside is at max, I buy the 4 and 10 at 20 (one each roll) and then pump them to 35.

 

As for after the point is made rooting for a 7. Most casino's will let you bet big red on the come out to "insure" the comes. Meaning you have 4 $5 come bets out, you can put $5 BR and if 7 hits you cantell them to keep the comes up with odds and call it even!!

 

 

I also bet HH YO and $1 AD (1-2) to make everything 30-1

(or 30-2 for YO and AD). I only do this after I have come bets... I do this to cover mypass time and my Big Red.. If any "porps" hit I double them.. made 5 HHYO/$1AD in a row one time... 6,12,18,24,30 all at 30 to 1 or 2.

 

 

??? about don't.... 1. can you pick up any don't come or don't pass bet at any time?

2. Do you ever Lay the 4 and the 10?

[cruzincurt]

I'm an admitted dice setter and I practice throwing dice at home between casino visits. Do I need counseling?:confused:

 

 

There's a good article about craps betting in this month's Casino Player magazine "Money won is twice as sweet as money earned" - Eddie Felson as played by Paul Newman in the Color of Money 1986

Edited July 24, 2009 by cruzincurt

[Lisa&Neb]

??? about don't betting.... 1. can you pick up any don't come or don't pass bet at any time?

2. Do you ever Lay the 4 and the 10?

[Yo Eleven]

I'm an admitted dice setter and I practice throwing dice at home between casino visits. Do I need counseling?:confused:

Yes, you do, but not regarding anything to do with craps. HAHAHA! J/K :D

[Yo Eleven]

??? about don't betting.... 1. can you pick up any don't come or don't pass bet at any time?

2. Do you ever Lay the 4 and the 10?

No!

Don't Pass can only be made on the COME OUT roll.

 

Don't Come can only be made when the POINT has been established.

 

You can however remove either one of these bets at ANY time. Hope this helps.

 

I only lay odds on the 4 and the 10. Good luck!

[Lisa&Neb]

No!

Don't Pass can only be made on the COME OUT roll.

 

Don't Come can only be made when the POINT has been established.

 

You can however remove either one of these bets at ANY time. Hope this helps.

 

I only lay odds on the 4 and the 10. Good luck!

 

I did not ask when you can put down a DC or DP bet.. I have played craps lots of times... I just never knew you could pick up a DP or DC. I normally play "right" and you can not pick up a PL or Come. When the table is cold I will bet the dark side, but I have never picked up the bet, as I did not know you could.

 

As for laying the 4 and 10... It would only make sence if normally place the 6 and 8. Just wondering if it works as part of your strategy??

[Yo Eleven]

I did not ask when you can put down a DC or DP bet.. I have played craps lots of times... I just never knew you could pick up a DP or DC. I normally play "right" and you can not pick up a PL or Come. When the table is cold I will bet the dark side, but I have never picked up the bet, as I did not know you could.

 

As for laying the 4 and 10... It would only make sence if normally place the 6 and 8. Just wondering if it works as part of your strategy??

Yeah I see that. LOL! It was 5:45 am. But I did answer your question by accident though. HAHA! Yes, you can pick up your don't bets at anytime because once the point is established you have the advantage now since there is more of a chance the SEVEN will be rolled before the point.

 

Welcome to the dark side. You may end up always playing it. It can be addictive, unless name calling hurts your feelings. LOL!

[Yo Eleven]

Wow! It's Friday and I happen to have the day off today. Looks like I am gonna head out to the local gaming boat and shoot some dice, well actually pass them dice since I hardly ever shoot. Wish me luck!!!!! :D

[Yo Eleven]

WOW!!!! I did really well today on the cruise ship. Big win today. I wish I could win like this all the time. It wasn't too busy today at the tables, but with me playing the dark side I got the usual stupid comments.

 

When the dice was presented to me to shoot (I usually pass on them) some idiot yelled out, "He is not allowed to shoot, bring the dice over here." I then said "I am shooting today, thanks!"

 

My roll ended up with the don't pass point and two instant don't come points. Then rolled the BIG RED myself and got paid big time!

 

I loved it! :D

Edited July 25, 2009 by Yo Eleven

[Yo Eleven]

Any guesses on what happened to the don't player's bet? :D

 

 

:p

[Casino Player]

I play on cruises but nothing serious. I really enjoy craps and would love to learn better strategy to making my money last longer.

 

Do C&E bets make sense?

 

A Lloyd Lindsey Young greeting to you Wayne_Trisha: Yo Eleven is telling the truth, bets in the middle of the table are not good bets. I use hard way bets for tipping. Also, on occasion I use a world bet for a hedge. However, bets in the middle of the table give the house a big edge.

[Casino Player]

Nah, they can keep their crap(s) toy. I am at the table to handle the chips, watch other players, interact with dealers. The hustle and the bustle. I wont have any part of this video game silliness.

 

Greetings dna1990: I am with you. I don't like the electronic games. I want to interact with the dealers, and other players.

[cruzincurt]

Any guesses on what happened to the don't player's bet? :D

 

 

:p

I'm going to assume the dark side wins since the bozo throwing the dice is throwing at random and didn't even make an odds bet behind his Pass Line bet. He'll never roll a 4 anytime soon :rolleyes:

Edited July 27, 2009 by cruzincurt

[ETski]

I'm going to assume the dark side wins since the bozo throwing the dice is throwing at random and didn't even make an odds bet behind his Pass Line bet. He'll never roll a 4 anytime soon :rolleyes:

 

cruzincurt,

In my quest for knowledge how do you line the dice up to throw? I believe I read where you have a method..... to throw your number more times than not.

ed :D

[Yo Eleven]

I'm going to assume the dark side wins since the bozo throwing the dice is throwing at random and didn't even make an odds bet behind his Pass Line bet. He'll never roll a 4 anytime soon :rolleyes:

HAHAHA! Did you catch the bozo slam his FIELD bet at 1:33 like it was some big deal? HAHAHAHA!

 

As expected, the don't player is knowledgeable. :D

[Yo Eleven]

cruzincurt,

In my quest for knowledge how do you line the dice up to throw? I believe I read where you have a method..... to throw your number more times than not.

 

ed :D

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p

[Lisa&Neb]

Another tip to cut the house edge...

 

For all you Big red betters... hop the 7 3 ways for a dollar each. you are betting $1 a 6-1, $1 a 2-5 and $1 a 4-3. If 7 hits you get 15 to 1.. so you ahve 16 dollars (your bet +15) Playing big red for $3 pays 4 to 1 or $12 + your $3 bet for a total of 15.

 

7 hopping = $16

Big Red = $15

 

Only thing... the hopping must be played in multiples of 3 only!!!!

[Yo Eleven]

Another tip to cut the house edge...

 

For all you Big red betters... hop the 7 3 ways for a dollar each. you are betting $1 a 6-1, $1 a 2-5 and $1 a 4-3. If 7 hits you get 15 to 1.. so you ahve 16 dollars (your bet +15) Playing big red for $3 pays 4 to 1 or $12 + your $3 bet for a total of 15.

 

7 hopping = $16

Big Red = $15

 

Only thing... the hopping must be played in multiples of 3 only!!!!

I am pleasantly surprised you know about HOP BETS. I love them. But remember they are ONE ROLL bets.

However, where I live they do not allow them. I know they do not allow them in Atlantic City either. I believe they allow them in Vegas and Biloxi though.

The reason why places do not allow them is that the bet cannot be verified by a camera review as there is no specific box marked for a hop number (except the Yo, midnight, and snake eyes). Those one roll bets are on the layout and are hop bets but they are marked on the layout. The rest of them aren't and this poses a problem for some casinos. But where they are allowed, I will play them. :D

Edited July 27, 2009 by Yo Eleven

[Lisa&Neb]

Yo... you are correct... any of the horn bets are "hopping" even big red is hopping.... I am not sure why a casino would not take a hopping bet... it is a bad bet jsut like yo or any other 2 outter at 15-1. the stick, table boss and pit boss all knowing about the bet should make it a good bet even if it is not on the table. What about when you yell a bet just as the dice are passed... they still book that bet... so the hop should be the same.... The main reason I think they may not book the bet is they may not know what a hop is.....

[cruzincurt]

Here's how I do it:

 

Line up the 3's in a V. Hold the dice between your thumb and first finger and toss them softly in a high arc so they hit at the intersection of the backboard and table. The idea is so that they turn around the axis you held them in and only jump back once in the same axis. There are few combinations to make a 7 when they tumble around that axis. Practice, practice, practice. Get yourself a set of regulation size dice.

 

The dealers don't like you to throw them higher than their eye level so that they don't have to look up from the table. Some casinos will not let you set the dice. You can quickly line the 3's up as they are on the opposite side of the 4. Some stickmen will actually start returning the dice to you with the 3's up.

 

Since I play the pass line and come bets, any number works for me.

 

Sorry Yo.:D

Edited July 28, 2009 by cruzincurt

[NancyNM]

I am pleasantly surprised you know about HOP BETS. I love them. But remember they are ONE ROLL bets.

However, where I live they do not allow them. I know they do not allow them in Atlantic City either. I believe they allow them in Vegas and Biloxi though.

The reason why places do not allow them is that the bet cannot be verified by a camera review as there is no specific box marked for a hop number (except the Yo, midnight, and snake eyes). Those one roll bets are on the layout and are hop bets but they are marked on the layout. The rest of them aren't and this poses a problem for some casinos. But where they are allowed, I will play them. :D

 

I have seen layouts (I think most recently they were in Vegas on the Strip) that show all the hop bets on them across the top of the center of the layout, so the bet can be placed there as easily as the more common 2/3/11/12 bets. And plenty of people were making the bet.

 

It's still not a good bet though! Way too much house edge on it.

Nancy

[Lisa&Neb]

I have seen layouts (I think most recently they were in Vegas on the Strip) that show all the hop bets on them across the top of the center of the layout, so the bet can be placed there as easily as the more common 2/3/11/12 bets. And plenty of people were making the bet.

 

It's still not a good bet though! Way too much house edge on it.

Nancy

 

 

i agree... but a better bet than Big Red

[ETski]

Here's how I do it:

 

Line up the 3's in a V. Hold the dice between your thumb and first finger and toss them softly in a high arc so they hit at the intersection of the backboard and table. The idea is so that they turn around the axis you held them in and only jump back once in the same axis. There are few combinations to make a 7 when they tumble around that axis. Practice, practice, practice. Get yourself a set of regulation size dice.

 

The dealers don't like you to throw them higher than their eye level so that they don't have to look up from the table. Some casinos will not let you set the dice. You can quickly line the 3's up as they are on the opposite side of the 4. Some stickmen will actually start returning the dice to you with the 3's up

 

Since I play the pass line and come bets, any number works for me.

 

Sorry Yo.:D

 

 

Thank you I will have to try this and see how it works for me.

ed :D

[iambumbo]

Just found this board-- great addition!

 

Yo, another darksider here. I just got back from Vegas a few weeks ago and played more craps than I ever had before. (Also like to play BJ, pai gow poker, and roulette.) I made some decent money and had a great sense of when to back off and wait out a shooter. I'm with Yo 100%. I don't need the crowd and the cheers-- just pay me. When it's a hot table, I'll back off and root for the rest of you to make some money too!

 

I'm a low stakes gambler though, played all $3 tables out in Vegas. Wife and I are heading to Adventure of the Seas in September and never played craps on the seas before (always stuck to BJ). From what I've read, looks like all ships have $5 minimums, is that right?

 

I don't like laying odds on 6/8, but I will on 4/5/9/10. (Just a personal preference.) On a $5 table, will they let me lay $6 on a 4/10 to make $3 and lay $6 on a 5/9 to make $4? Or would I have to bet enough so that a winning bet is at least the table minimum, i.e., lay $10 to make $5 on a 4/10 and lay $7.50 to make $5 on a 5/9? In Vegas, I saw both ways so I have no idea which way is the consensus/majority view. My preference would be to bet the minimum on odds while still getting mathematically proper payouts. Hey, I'm cheap, but not stupid. ;)