jasong38501

Wow I was right about the Ecstasy and Fantasy swapping spots???? That may just be the first guess I have had right with all this dancing! And we think we know the Miracle to Tampa and Splendor to Long Beach. And we think we know the Victory to San Juan. So that just leaves the Fascination right? I would love to see some short cheap cruises on the Fascination from Port Everglades. It is so much cheaper to fly into Ft Lauderdale than Miami. At least for me since I fly Southwest.

With all of the delays in the Panama Canal expansion (even with the 400m boost) it might not even be finished for the a Splendor re positioning cruise. She cannot fit through the canal as it is so it would be round South America again or leave the ships where they are?

 

It makes sense to have Splendor doing cruises on the West Coast if she starts doing Alaskan cruises as shes built for Europe weather/Alaskan weather with that indoor pool.

 

Watching the Miracle sail out of Tampa on cam will bring back my memories of the Legend the month our Panama Canal cruise...aaah.

Perhaps this is why Carnival has continued to delay releasing the schedules of both of these ships.

Tell me about it! I'm sure they already know what's going where; just don't get the whole point of slowlyyy announcing them. Many people have already figured out what ship is going where already, so there isn't a point in taking so long to announce everything! People want to start planning their future vacations, and start making payments on a cruise, I know I do. I'm waiting to see what's going to happen with the Carnival Miracle so I can book/look into the 2017 voyages from California. so hopefully next week will be the week they finally announce the news California and Tampa have been waiting for!

Looks like we have found out more information on our own. A poster in another thread pointed out that he has found a roll call for a charter out of Tampa on the Miracle in Feb 2017.

Fantasy ecstasy after April 2016

 

Splendor legend spirit miracle after October 2016

And Fascination and Victory after October 2016

If you go to the Carnival Roll Calls and click on Miracle you will find the 4th one down from the top is for Feb.5,2017. Not sure if this link will work but if not just go to the Miracle Roll call not the roll call search :

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/forumdisplay.php?f=331

Hmmmmm, well now I know not to use the link above that says "Find your Carnival roll call" because it doesn't work! I had a feeling this was happening. Good searching and thanks for the info! Yet another reason Carnival just needs to announce it already! They obviously have made the decisions, the longer they wait the more answers we will find on our own!

There is a charter group on the Miracle in Feb. 2017 who are going on a Caribbean cruise from Tampa.

If you want to see a post about it go to the Miracle Roll calls.

I don't see any Miracle roll calls past June 2016....

We are booked on the Feb 7/16 Breeze.

 

My kids (interior) are across the hall from DH and I (balcony).

 

Can anyone tell me why the balcony room taxes, port expenses and fees are $123.00 pp, but the kids interior room has taxes, port expenses and fees are $195.00 pp?

 

Yes I know I can call Carnival, but rather than be on hold.....thought I would check with all of you knowledgeable people first! :)

$195 per person for the interior room? that seems incredibly high, no way those fees should be almost $600 for an interior room

LOL!! We just need one Fantasy class ship here, IMO. They just need to change up the itinerary, Ensenada isn't the nicest destination. A 5 day cruise to Cabo would be nice maybe with a stop in Catalina too

I am surprised that if Carnival wants to run 2 Fantasy class ships out of California that they don't homeport one in Long Beach and one in San Diego.

My main response to that is why bother? There's no gain in capacity with swapping out for another Fantasy class vessel. Maybe it doesn't sail as full as I think, or maybe the port simply can't handle a larger ship year round until the new port is built.

 

I bet she'll go in dry dock while the Sunshine is in Charleston and get some upgrades, then go back to Charleston. They may reposition another ship there for a few sailings after the Sunshine has moved on, depending on how extensive the upgrades will be.

I think they will switch it out simply because that is what they do every several years. While they may not gain capacity they will allow those who want to cruise from Charleston a different choice than they have had they last 5 years. And as I stated in an earlier post I think they will do it with the Ecstasy so they can make more money off her 2.0 upgrades than they will sailing 3 or 4 days out of Miami.

I am still betting on a Fantasy and Ecstasy swap. Ecstasy received some of the 2.0 upgrades during her last dry dock. I can not imagine they would leave her running cheaper/shorter runs from Miami than the Sensation will be running when she takes over for Victory. And since Charleston runs longer routes than Ecstasy currently runs from Miami, Carnival would make more money off their 2.0 upgrades if they move her there.

I see what you are saying. Many made the same argument about NYC and another growing market China. I think carnival cruise lines is focused on its core customer base. Now one of the other carnival corp brands may respond. Like costa will be doing in China.

Looks like you nailed that one on the head. Princess looks to be the brand stepping up down under.

http://www.princess.com/news/press_releases/2015/04/Princess-Cruises-Announces-Largest-Ever-Australia-Deployment-for-2016-2017.html#.VS9I_vnF-ik

I need a pivot chart to keep track! LOL.

Yeah, no wonder they are releasing it in such small bits. Even though I wish they would just get it over with already!

so are the only ships we're still waiting on now are the Miracle & Fantasy?? And that's if the Fantasy is staying with CCL.

Still waiting on Fantasy, Ecstasy, Fascination, Imagination, Inspiration, Victory, Splendor, and Miracle

I think that it's then that she will go (back) to San Juan.

I agree. Then possibly Fascination to Miami to replace Ecstasy. And Ecstasy to Charleston to replace Fantasy since Ecstasy has some 2.0 features. Maybe Fantasy to Ft. Lauderdale to do short Bahama runs???? Just a wild guess but makes sense in my head.

Carnival will enhance its short Bahamas cruise program from Port Canaveral with Carnival Victory replacing Carnival Sensation on this popular route in February 2016.

Read the rest of the press release. Once Magic gets to Port Canaveral, Valor will take over for Victory and she will move to a different port. They just haven't said where yet.

Ships still missing an itinerary after October 2016 are; Victory, Splendor, and Miracle. Victory is most likely heading to San Juan. Splendor might be heading back to Long Beach (lots of rumors on that) and Miracle to Tampa? Miami has plenty of ships so losing a ship there isn't much of a big deal to that port. And then many Fantasy class ships are still missing an itinerary as well. Hopefully the next announcement won't take so long

I am betting you right on all three of those (Victory to San Juan, Splendor to Long Beach, and Miracle to Tampa). I wouldn't be surprised to see Ecstasy go to Charleston, I believe she has several 2.0 upgrades that Fantasy does not. I bet Long Beach looses one of the Fantasy class ships. Maybe San Diego gets one???? I have wondered why Carnival doesn't do a Fantasy class ship out of Ft. Lauderdale too. It would seem like they could run a cheap route to the Bahamas from there.

Looks like every ship is accounted for except, fantasy, ecstasy, imagination, and inspiration.

I am seeing some sailings for Victory from Port Canaveral in May and June but nothing after. I still don't see anything for Splendor or Miracle after October. Valor is missing a lot of sailings still. And I don't see anything for Fascination after October. Plus all those you mentioned.

It's such a shame to use such a big ship for such short trips, IMHO.

I agree. It is a bit surprising to me. I suppose they are stepping up their game to try to combat Royal Caribbean in Port Canaveral.

And Magic is showing up in Port Canaveral now, we knew that was coming but still nice to have confirmation.

Valor is showing up with some really cheap sailings in Jan 2017. Looks like she is taking over Sensations 3 and 4 day trips

So Sensation to Miami. Victory, Valor, Magic, Sunshine in Port Canaveral. Not seeing anything for Tampa. Hopefully there will be more info to the announcement, or it'll probably just be the announcing of Magic and Victory to Port Canaveral, and Sensation to Miami.

Sensation to Miami would make sense to take over Victory's schedule. It still isn't showing for me yet though. I thought Victory was supposed to be going to San Juan to take over for Fascination though. Also Legend's summer schedule to Alaska is posted now, so she will still be out of Seattle for the summer.

Ok, that is working now. Looks like Splendor is staying in Miami too.

And now I have realized that Splendor now has bookings through the end of October from Miami and Miracle now has bookings through the end of October from Long Beach...... Wonder is that is just a coincidence or not????

Have the start month as may 2016. Then use the drop down boxes for port and ships to see what ships will be there after may 2016..

Ok, that is working now. Looks like Splendor is staying in Miami too.

As of right now the only change i see on carnival.com is sensation is going to Miami.

I am not seeing that. But now it won't even let me search for March and April 2016.

Some people just like to be stubborn for no reason other than boredom apparently. For everyone else out there worried about Port Canaveral, Jim Berra, Carnival's chief marketing officer, let slip in a radio interview in Galveston that Carnival Magic would be moving to Port Canaveral in 2016. This would be a major upgrade for Carnival ships sailing from this port. Magic currently has sailings from Galveston scheduled until November 2016 when she will be replaced by the Breeze. The biggest questions in my mind are:

1- Will any other ship take over the Sunshine sailings until Magic moves?

2- Will Sensation and Valor both continue to sail from PC after April 2016? Neither have anything scheduled yet.

Carnival says we will find out this week.....