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On 9/2/2020 at 10:08 PM, oteixeira said:
I find it interesting that not only did the stock not get affected by this but also that no major outlets are reporting it in the US financial markets....Not saying it is false, just odd. Actually, the more I google-foo, this is the ONLY article reporting this. Are we sure it is correct, or up to date? They did take 1.2B at another time, maybe this was just posted VERY late??
My first thoughts exactly, but I think it was not on main markets. Agree that it does look new
If its correct then wow what a debt mountain they have and how on earth do you service and reduce it!
As to going bus,t nobody knows anything, and any news I read can only be speculation and guesswork. I do think there might be a merger but just my view.
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2 minutes ago, hallux said:
As would almost ANY company after 18 months of no sales/income.
Agreed that is the point of course. Its is a debt mountain waiting for an accident I fear but it is just my opinion.
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3 hours ago, hallux said:
Interesting how this article states NCL could last for 18 months without sailing but all the financial "experts" in this forum are saying bankruptcy is imminent after only 6 months.
FDR did say in April 18 months
I think the issue is though is what state NCLH would look like after 18 months - Rather ragged i suggest.
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Now has someone else been suspended as well
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Scientific and medical discoveries and advances will dictate any changes and protocols that Carnival Corporation and its nine cruise lines implement before they return, CEO and President Arnold Donald said
In an exclusive interview with Cruise Critic, Donald said it's too soon to tell what exact changes cruisers will see on ships once they return to service, but he vowed that whatever protocols are put in place would follow guidelines put out by global health authorities such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization.
It is not news but the thoughts of a senior industry leader - Read the article it sums up the position but gives away they have no idea when the will start again in my view. I know its not NCL but it gives a flavour of what is going on behind the scenes. I just wonder what cruising will be when it returns?
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No no not at all I do not think any ships will go before September.
it is not immaterial at all. I was in particular saying that particular one would not be operating.
I never said you will defiantly not be gambling and helping the state taxes.
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1 minute ago, seaman11 said:
lol i am going to be at a different casino on the same dates, so you were in fact wrong. maybe right about AC but not casinos in general.
But not the one you booked LOLouder which is all I said so in fact I right
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23 minutes ago, seaman11 said:
You are not correct several casinos are open already, nj is just too far north and want to open up later, vegas will be open june 4th. i have already booked with caesars entertainment , harrah's NC. for the same dates, its already open.
https://www.wspa.com/news/local-news/harrahs-cherokee-casinos-to-reopen-to-public-on-may-28/
Yet again Seaman everyone can see what you do. You answered a different question . The fact is you booked 8 June 2020 and were proud to tell me I was wrong. Admit for once you have got wrong there is no other sensible conclusion I never commented on Vegas so why on earth do you feel the need to mention it. I never said all casinos are closed.
No one is interested in what else you booked you blustered on in another thread that you had booked 8 June 2020 because some industry newspaper said it would be open. Now maybe you wil realise that self serving advertising you quote is nonsense. I said it would not happen and all they are doing is trying to get bookings and your money.
It is entirely irrelevant where else you booked - you must be playing roulette with the flights as well unless you are driving.
Now lets see what story you come up with when your Carnival cruise is cancelled - oh I know you only thought it had a good chance.
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4 hours ago, seaman11 said:
My atlantic city trip june 8th got cancelled no new reservations till july 1st they told me. Nc casino near Tennessee is open already. Northern states got hit harder.
So yet again I am correct. You were adamant that you had been able to book something and I said it would be cancelled
You asked me to comment about AC - its closed
All your bluster about booking and its opening up. I told you weeks ago that your booking would not go ahead and that it was a long way off. Its the same with cruises. and as for Europe - no chance of big cruise ships - they are not wanted this year,
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Not fear mongering at all. What I posted was beyond your simplistic comprehension. I get cheap cruise deals sent to me all the time. I am discerning on what I book. You don’t have to book because it is cheap. I have passed up many good deals over the years. I have impulse control.
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2 hours ago, beerman2 said:
Name calling again Nice!
It just shows you the level of his intelligence - rock bottom!!
Just look at rubbish he writes he compares a grocery store to a cruise ship - he just talks nonsense all the time. He has proved that time and time agian. He believes adverting paapers and is deeply confused and thinks they are news.
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10 hours ago, seaman11 said:
You blocked me because things are opening up , and now you have egg on your face.
https://abc7.com/morongo-casino-resort--spa-is-open-riverside-county/6205122/
https://www.foxnews.com/us/las-vegas-to-reopen-casinos-with-restrictions
Florida and NJ are close to reopening casinos. by june 1st.
9 hours ago, mugtech said:Escape is currently scheduled to pull into Manila Bay with crew to repatriate on July 2. The way things are going it will take at least three weeks to get them off the ship. The Philippines is expecting another 300,000 overseas foreign workers (OFW) headed home between now and August. It will be very difficult to get new crew as everyone who goes into Manila must quarantine for 14 days, the hotels are so crowded they suspended any more OFW from coming ashore for another week. There are no flights or ferries between the islands, so no one can come into Manila to board a ship. Going to be a mess for months. More international flights are being cancelled or moved back, only citizens and green card holders for the destination of the flights are getting on board. Many days only 2 or 3 international flights leave Manila.
Seaman 11 lives in a little fantasy world of his own with no one agreeing with him. I seriously do not believe he understands the world we live in. All he keeps saying are "things are opening up" They are not as far as ship logistics but he can not see it as believes the rubbish written in the trade press. He says he gets off at ports. there are none due to be open in August read the official Caribbean websites. Of course the island would love to have cruisers back but only when its safe not when Seaman11 wants to cruise. things starting on land are not the same as at sea
I have blocked him because he can not answer questions and just makes simpleton statements with no substance. He said I live in cushy world but when challenged he provides no answers
What you write is so true maybe when his cruise is cancelled in August he wil apologise and wipe the huge egg of his his face. Sadly will not be able to see his apology.
All I say is Carnival plan to reopen are now being changed as I write. NCL have no pans to sail before 1 September 2020 as a large part of their guests Israel and Uk for the summer can not get back into their home countries and this applies to crew world wide.
Until COVID 19 testing is on the spot or a vaccine is available no cruise line will sail with mass market.
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9 minutes ago, seaman11 said:
So what do you have to say about the news river cruises will start up next month?
Nothing its not a comparable!
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11 minutes ago, seaman11 said:
i replied to all these , you could not be bothered to read it or passed it off. getting crew home during the pandemic was the hard part, getting crew once airports and ports are fully operational, not as hard. and also with less pax on board they will need much less staff. with cruises anticipated in august they have plenty of time to get ready. they have 10 weeks.
and what about AC? i am booked june 8th . many casinos are open already and some more will be open june 1st.
why ppl think the world will stop and nothing will get going, is beyond me. i guess too much negative news .
They have not the crew home
The number of engineers is the same however may passengers there are. Once airports are fully operational. You are clearly not in real world - countries are imposing quarantine and not loosening them. Not so hard I promise you its near on impossible as crew are made up of Eastern Europe India and Philippines all of which are still closed. 10 weeks for now is very different from when they can get the thousands needed back. A lot of crew will never sail again after this and sourcing new crew is not easy in this day and age. You are not in the industry and have no clue how hard it is so your comment is baseless. You make comments without any fact,. In fact all UK security staff which make up the bulk of NCL on board ships can not travel due to travel advisories.
The crew that have not even yet got home will not be back for some time and new crew take months to retrain.
At present whatever you want to think crewing is a massive issue for all cruise lines as COVID is still rife and you are oblivious to the fact that one outbreak on a ship its the end of the industry for years.
You are only thinking of the economics well I can tell you the Islands and cruise staff are thinking of their loved ones not cruising.
They are not worried about your few dollars.
Which Casinos are open and playing TODAY and that you can book.
Do not worry about replying as I blocked you
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1 minute ago, seaman11 said:
yep i was happy to take the extra %25 fcc
On cruises that have lost all add on and have gone up in price
Look at the current pricing its about 20% higher than March 2020 so not saving a penny and all add on removed !! Oh dear
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20 hours ago, seaman11 said:
thats incorrect, i gave may a 20 percent chance. and i did think end of jun or july had a possibility , but i didnt book anything for then did i? i booked aug from florida to the bahamas for a reason. better chance of it going.
You booked for May with a 20% chance!
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4 hours ago, seaman11 said:
you started the argument over this thread well before that, and i asked you 4 times what was the problem with the orginal post in this thread and 4 times you did not respond to that question, so i can only conclude some of you just like to argue.
You are never wrong. NOT
I have asked more than four times to explain how the lines will crew the ships but you just ignore because you have no idea how to crew and operate a cruise ship and don't say "well maybe" you do not have clue how the logistics work for a cruise ship. I do and even MR FDR said it will take three weeks to retrain the crews. And these crews can not even leave their countries. Further at present NCL and Carnival are repatriating experienced crew.
CDC will scupper any start up in August. Based on NCLH share price the market knows that their are no plans to start up. Look at Carnival its flat lined not as sign of imminent future revenue, You now saying "better chance" for August. You were much more confident a few weeks ago. There is no demand for cruises at the moment and the cruise lines know it. Carnival can not even sell 50% of its August cruises at this time. I hope you flight is refundable from VA to FL
Still waiting for your comments on Atlantic City.
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1 hour ago, seaman11 said:
We will see by august then. You are in your cushy world as the poster above stated. You have no idea how much these ppl rely on the tourist dollars. They can't afford to stay closed till 2021. Get a grip on reality.
As always Seaman11 you do not address any of the points. And the cruise lines can not afford one outbreak on the ships. How do you know the Island can not survive on reduced tourism they did before cruising. They are not waiting for cruise ships and COVID 19 another outbreak on an Island and ships can not stop there so no dollars again. Realistically the Islands do not want COVID second wave because you do not want to be proved wrong. You have absolutely no idea what you are guessing other than to make derogatory remarks about people.
Find a post where I said 2021- I have not said that ever. I suspect late September or October in reality. Strange that no August cruises sold out - no demand.
What post says I live in cushy world? Maybe I do but I know what I am talking about whereas you are just guessing. No comment again about Atlantic City eh and you do not seek to challenge anything.
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41 minutes ago, seaman11 said:
right i posted 4 different sources, yet it still "fake news" because you dont want to believe it. smh
Answer the point they are not news they are advertising form inside the industry - What is clear none of it is news you are so wrong and actually I can not find any support for your views in any newspapers or this site. Nt one of your sources is independent. You have been proved to be wrong time and time again and how many times have you been told dollars are not wanted. These island do not want the cruise ships and COVID 19.
I am not the average poster - as you will see I called the NCL press release to the day. and boy do I have a clue far more than you may think.
Forget August - the second wave will put pay to that.
I would love to believe it but I read news not some advertising. I have a great interest in the industry restarting but I know the current position and the fact you simply want to cruise and believe hype no one here can help.
Your links are simply advertising so as I say Fake news SMH
By the way where are your comments about things opening up -not so many now.
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1 hour ago, seaman11 said:
id say he has more credibility than the negative posters that want everything shut down till 2021 have.
https://cruiseradio.net/bahamas-could-welcome-cruise-ships-back-july-1st/
some of these ports will be well ready by august.
Just ignore him he has fallen for the same trap. Everyone of his comments are industry self serving papers using the same feeds. None of the above has a shread of credible evidence or has an economic or real news basis.
There is no news here at just pure speculation.
Look at the titles -could welcome ships back July 1st- absolute rubbish CDC does not finish until 24 July
Seaman11 keep you are arguing against reality and just keep throwing maybe could and" I have a good feeling". Instead of defending the position accept you have been wrong throughout and give up!!
Are you really that gullible "Bahamas believes its ideally positioned" that tells us nothing . It is not even speculation.
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1 hour ago, old nutter said:
There is a real chance that the UK will join the likes of Australia an New Zealand in imposing a 14-day isolation for almost everyone trying to enter the country for the foreseeable future. Then who else?
Just for a laugh (thought the OP was a comedy sketch worthy of Monty Python) we thought we might map a 7-day cruise from Barcelona in summer on Epic in the new world of closed borders...
Day 1 - fly from UK to Barcelona and book into a hotel for two weeks.
Day 15 - Board Epic and sail.
Day 16 - Sea Day
Day 17 - Land in Naples and book into hotel or compulsory government accommodation for 14 days
Day 24 - Find webcam to see dock to watch Epic come and go.
Day 31 - Board Epic again
Day 32 - Land at Civitavechia for day not having left Italy
Day 33 - Land at Livorno for day not having left Italy
Day 34 - Land in Cannes and book into hotel or compulsory government accommodation for 14 days.
Day 41 - Find webcam to see dock to watch the Epic come and go
Day 48 - Board Epic again
Day 49 - Land at Barcelona and fly home to UK to go home for 14 days in quarantine.
Day 62 - Rejoin the world at the end of my 2 months long one week cruise holiday.
Any takers for a go at it this year then?
This is so good. In factw ith the UK quarantine I have good authority NCL are writing off the entire European season and all ships will reposition empty ready for winter season. No TA this year from UK or Europe.
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5 hours ago, BirdTravels said:
As usually, good 'ole Don has zero useful or substantiated information. A lot of arm waving and made up conjecture. No facts.
Superb comment - Seaman 11 falls for every bit of advertising he sees and believe it. He does not recognise the difference between PR and industry interests and marketing and real news. And when he see real news he gets it wrong such as the NCL to have a new plan. The picture he posst is industry self interested parties.
In that article there are no facts so I am sorry seaman "fake news".
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On 5/14/2020 at 12:50 AM, seaman11 said:
Hmmm this casino has opened and bookings at 80 percent full.
And those arguing earlier about masks None required by customers only workers and dealers.
On 5/14/2020 at 11:35 PM, BirdTravels said:On 5/16/2020 at 7:29 PM, seaman11 said:yes they do i posted the link, and you want ppl to think you arent all doom and gloom?
9 hours ago, seaman11 said:Why would you think they would cancel august in may or early june? Things in texas and florida are already opening. And may i said wss 20 percent chance but happy to take the 25% extra fcc.
9 hours ago, seaman11 said:The no sail expires in july. So would not need to be lifted. Only issue would be if they extend it. But unless a set back. Things are opening up.
There you go again - you have been saying for months "things are opening up what things NOT cruises. You fail on every occasion to take account of reality. Finally you have gone from excitingly announcing NCL new plan (which was only NCL shareholders meeting) to having doubts in less than a week
You continue to hedge you bets with words like "may", 20% ," I have a good feeling" Unlike others who live in the real world you continue to try and justify why you MAY be right. The CDC order will be extended and NCL have for once taken a proactive approach. Why would they cancel if they thought they could sail? You have ben saying things "opening up" for over a month now - not cruises and you analogy to Casinos is land based is so irrelevant.
I have told you NCL will not be sailing but you ignored it with your its 100 days out or they have a new plan. They will not sail before late August early September.
Not once have you answered my question how they are going to crew the ships - you are not in the industry and fail to understand how it works and the logistics.
oh and you 25% FCC might find useless as NCL prices have increased and incentives lowered
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3 hours ago, ColeThornton said:
That's not true. It's one of those myths that gets perpetuated on forums such as this.
Agreed it has no truth whtsoever
Another 1.2 billion for NCL
in Norwegian Cruise Line
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I think it may correct on a non US market