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On 4/2/2021 at 12:22 PM, Roz said:
If that's the case, HIPPA has gone too far. Is it a violation of HIPPA for schools to require vaccinations?
No. Not at all. HIPAA (this is the actual acronym) doesn't do any of what people are trying to drag it into to justify their vaccine arguments.
It only covers anyone who sees any of your health care information as part of their job providing medical care, which includes back office/admin, and your medical insurance. HIPAA prevents people with authorized access to your health care information from releasing that information without your permission.
This is a page and a half FAQ written in plain English and I recommend everyone in the US should go and read the whole thing to know your rights.
"Generally, your health information cannot be used for purposes not directly related to your care without your permission. For example, your doctor cannot give it to your employer, or share it for things like marketing and advertising, without your written authorization."
The key words are "without your permission". Providing your vaccination status to anyone is voluntary. Cruise lines and schools are not telling you that you or your kids have to get vaccinated. Or even tell them if you've been vaccinated. They're telling you that if you choose not to be, these are the consequences.
"No Vaccinations, No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service"
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On 4/5/2021 at 1:10 PM, Heartgrove said:
The vaccines are 90-95% effective as that means that you would still have a 5-10% chance of contracting the virus.
That's a very common misconception.
95 % protection does not mean you have a 5% chance of getting the virus.
It's much less than that.
The risk to a vaccinated person is 5 % of risk to an unvaccinated person in the same conditions.
The risk is up to 5 % only when the exposure is big enough under circumstances where EVERY unvaccinated person would get infected.
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Whether or not to get a vaccination is absolutely a choice. But someone who chooses not to get a vaccination has to face that they are also choosing all the consequences of that choice. Airlines and hotels and cruise lines are private businesses. There is nothing in any law that says voluntarily un-vaccinated people are a protected class that a private business has to service. A bunch of cruise lines have already said they're going to require vaccinations.
No shirt No shoes No service
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No shot No shirt No shoes No service.
There's nothing new about requiring vaccinations to travel. Before, people who don't want to get vaccinations could just go somewhere else. The difference now is that everywhere someone wants to travel, and airlines, and cruise line, are going to require this vaccination.
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On 1/13/2021 at 8:47 AM, CruiserBruce said:
Pharmacies will be (in our area, CVS, Walgreens and Safeway pharmacies have contracts) but, at least in California, thus far, all of the vaccines have gone to essential workers, (no vaccines to the general public yet) so giving the shots in hospital settings is easy, and to nursing home staff and residents, so giving in those locations is easy.
Northern California has been doing mass vaccinations at places like county fairgrounds, large medical group offices, and Moscone Center in SF. My county has been making appts and vaccinating county residents (have to show ID with address) 65 or older for weeks. I got the 1st shot two weeks ago, 2nd shot will be on Wednesday.
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On 2/19/2021 at 9:03 AM, Essiesmom said:
I'm not sure where you get the idea that 95% means only 95% of the passengers are protected. 95% means that each passenger is 95% protected. There is no 5% that aren't. EM
Yes. This. That's a common misconception. 95% protection does NOT mean 5% of the people vaccinated are unprotected.
Each person fully vaccinated has a 95% chance of not getting the virus if they're exposed to someone who is sick, when it's under conditions where they would have gotten sick per-vaccination.
Best friend comes to visit, stays all evening, you talk and laugh in close contact, best friend wakes up the next day with symptoms. Every exposed vaccinated person's risk would be just a 5% chance of having gotten COVID-19 from them. There's no group of 5% who would get sick from any and every exposure to the virus.
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On 11/23/2020 at 6:20 PM, Himself said:
Doone i agree. I wish it was a HAL ship sailing in. The APEX and the EDGE must be anchored in the Bahamas.
Whole bunch of Royal & Celebrity ships anchored off Coco Cay in the Bahamas. They bring one ship into a Florida port every couple of weeks. Fresh provisions, mail call, crew changes, all for the whole anchorage fleet.
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28 minutes ago, Roger88 said:
What do you mean her last voyage? Is about to go for dissembling? I didnt hear any news in its regard lately. In any case the photo looks very depressing, and the weather has some impact to it as well. Where was it taken? It looks like some port town or just a bike lane along the shore
Not sure who took it but today (Monday) she docks in Rotterdam on her last voyage as MS Rotterdam. Has been sold to Fred Olsen and will sail as MS Borealis.
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6 hours ago, TiogaCruiser said:
Or merging the lines?
Points up to this comment. That was my guess too.
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9 hours ago, ScottishMaid said:
We liked the inside cabins midship on decks 2 and 3 (counting upwards) as they are very spacious, quiet, stable in rough weather and in good locations. However it is scary now to get an inside cabin after seeing people quarantined. There are relatively few balcony cabins, another reason for HAL to sell.
Sent from my iPhone using ForumsI second both parts of this. Loved the Amsterdam inside cabins midship on deck 3. There's a block of 7 inside cabins between the atrium and the midship stairs. It's the Promenade deck so there's doors to outside between the midship stairs & elevators. Despite how much I loved it, don't think I'd ever be comfortable in an inside cabin again.
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Does the Zaandam still have the Explorations Cafe?
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5 hours ago, Storylady said:
Europe may return to cruising sooner than US.
AIDA has three ships sailing next month with no port calls.
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Captain updated again.
http://captainjonathan.com/15th-may-manila-bay/
The wheels of officialdom and paperwork grind very slowly but among many other things he says his relief lives in the Philippines and the crew threw him a retirement party.
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Three tenders now.
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Cruise fares are going to be very high. They have to be.
It costs cruise lines X numbers of dollars monthly to park a ship with a skeleton crew.
Running cruises costs them several time X dollars monthly. Running cruises under any social distancing of passengers, so fewer of them, plus increased operational costs at the very least for constant cleaning and sanitizing, will be significantly more expensive per passenger. They're don't have to turn a profit on every cruiseto be better off, but they have to generate enough cash so that the average net loss per cruise is less than the net loss to park a ship with a skeleton crew.
A large percentage of passengers will be using cruise credits which means even fewer passengers paying actual cash money. Fewer passengers overall, a significant percentage of them using credits for all or part of their fare, means cash paying passengers will have to pay big numbers for any of this to work.
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Amsterdam at 17 knots headed away from Jakarta. No idea if she's leaving or just moving.
https://www.cruisemapper.com/?imo=9188037
ETA: oops sorry for the version I posted with six copies of the screen grab.
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Amsterdam is moving at 10 knots.
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57 minutes ago, cccole said:
After lucky crew members are dropped off at their countries' ports, is there a minimum number of crew members that the Amsterdam will need to transit back to the U.S.? And post # 235 indicates that the ship will wait in Malaysia prior to it's return. I understand that everything is fluid but I am a bit curious as to how many crew members need to remain on-board. Cherie
Guessing here but probably at least a couple of hundred? Officers, a couple of office/HR people, deck crew, security, engine room, environmentals, food service, laundry, cleaning crew who also maintain the hotel areas.
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1 hour ago, KirkNC said:
So why did they go to Durban at all? Fremantle is much closer to Indonesia than South Africa.
Change in plans. Originally it was going to be west the long way around. Freemantle to Durban, down around Cape Good Hope, up & across the Atlantic to Florida.
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6 hours ago, nyceve said:
HAL has very exacting financial demands of us, the passengers. Final payment due date, etc. etc. But when it comes to a contractually due refund, they are silent. Not even the simple courtesy of an email. It is the worst customer service ever as someone else noted. And it will profoundly harm the company long term.
How dare they defer usual levels of customer service (to people who are home and safe) just because other people are actively dying on their ships right now in the midst of a global pandemic.
Not their highest priority. Not even top ten. Repeated outraged emails and phones calls over refunds aren't going to move anyone up the priority list in the current crisis. Might be a good idea to at least wait until passengers stop dying.
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18 hours ago, rafinmd said:
Queen Mary 2 with 264 non-flying passengers had to wait 3 days at anchor to get clearance to refuel in Durban. Wishing Captain Jonathan much better luck. He still has himself and his crew he needs to get back home. I almost wonder with the current situation in Fort Lauderdale he might be better off going to the Netherlands.
Roy
Good luck and continued safe travels to Captain Mercer and all her crew onboard the Amsterdam!
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Maybe not. The Netherlands has opted for trying to get to controlled herd immunity among those least at risk of dying, instead of locking down everyone. As of April 5h, 16,627 tested positive, 1,651 dead.
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Amsterdam's current status is "at anchor"
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Nothing new from HAL.
Green arrow in red box is Amsterdam and looks to be less than 50nm out from Durban.
Green circle is MSC Orchestra and she's been sitting off Durban at .2 knots since I first looked yesterday.
The green arrow at the extreme left edge, way up and way out from Namibia, is QM2.
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Would you go iv everyone is not vacinated?
in Holland America Line
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I'm also fully vaccinated and also not worried about me getting sick. The unvaccinated passenger who brings the virus onboard screws up EVERYONE'S cruise. Unvaccinated passengers are also a higher risk to do something at home or enroute to the ship that infects them and brings the virus onboard. The Venn diagram between people who refuse to get vaccinated and people mad about enforced masking isn't a circle but it's pretty substantial.