SummmerInKefalonia

1 hour ago, cruisefan2012 said:

Either ship going to Dublin, Ireland? 

After a quick check sadly no.

There are cruises though that call at Cobh and Belfast

36 minutes ago, johnnylikely said:

Wow, Arvia isn't doing anything less than 14 nights?

Same cruises if you check as 2023 season...

21 minutes ago, cruisefan2012 said:

SummerinKefalonia

 

Which ship is going to Iceland? are you able to tell me the itineraries?

Happy to wait till the 23rd if you cant say

Both Arcadia & Aurora have itineraries to Iceland.

5 minutes ago, Denarius said:

I agree entirely. It's getting silly. I suspect that P&O are trying to bounce people into booking early before they see what the opposition are offering. Many companies have only just issued their 2023 summer programme, and some like Saga are yet to do so.

You can find Saga's 2023 itineraries in their thread here on cc.

1 minute ago, lilyafloat said:

Thank you very much. Looking at the current brochure I thought it would probably be, but you can never be sure until you see the routes. We have never cruised and I am spending an inordinate amount of time looking at cabins 😂

As two adults and a just turned 21 year old is Britannia or Ventura a better bet for him to find other young adults? We would probably look at a deluxe balcony with the curtain or a suite to give us all a bit of 'space'

Britannia has better ratings, though Ventura is smaller (you said you like smaller ships).

I would go for Britannia but I don't know if the dates would work for you.

17 minutes ago, lilyafloat said:

Fair enough 😀 I'm looking for first two weeks in July or first two weeks in September sailing from Southampton for a week possibly longer upto 12 days. Would be happy for Norway, Spain/Portugal or Canaries but not on Iona (too big). Many thanks.

Could you point me in the right direction please?

I think Ventura will be your ship (but they start 1-3 days earlier than the dates you want).

2024 Deployment is this:

Arvia from Southampton 14-night cruises to Western Med.

Iona from Southamption 7-night cruises to the Norwegian Fjords.

Britannia from Southampton 7 to 14-night cruises to Norwegian Fjords, Baltics & some cruises to Western Med.

Azura from Valletta 7-night fly cruises to Central and Eastern Med.

Ventura from Southampton 7 to 14-night cruises to Spain & France and to Canary Islands.

Arcadia from Southampton long cruises to the Baltics, Norwegian Fjords and Med.

Aurora from Southampton long cruises to the Baltics, Norwegian Fjords, Central Med and Canada/New England.

The 2024 itineraries have leaked a week ago in a big TA site.

Almost same itineraries (with some small new port additions though).

Nevermind, I found it!

2023 Cruises.pdf

Could you share please the e-brochure here? 🙂

This is the most weird itinerary change I have seen lately. Ok no Venice, but no Marghera, Trieste or even Ravenna? Also when the repeat of the same ports in one single itinerary? Weren't they other destinations to add? Also 2 Overnights in a port is too much.... I understand why most of the people will cancel...

Maybe it has to do with the new restriction Palma De Mallorca's port imposed recently.

October/November this year.

6 hours ago, vanchelle said:

Can you suggest a site to look at # of ships in port? I used to have a site saved on my old phone but now when I google it the info is useless/outdated. 

Usually cruisetimetables is the most accurate but still misses some small ships.

From what I can see, you will have these ships together in each port you visit:

Kusadasi: Celebrity Reflection, Celestyal Crystal & Wind Star.

Patmos: Celestyal Crystal & Wind Star.

Rhodes: Crown Iris, Seabourn Encore & Celestyal Crystal.

Mykonos: Costa Pacifica, MSC Armonia & Azamara Journey.

Argostoli: Costa Deliziosa.

Corfu: Marella Explorer & Wind Surf.

Santorini: Azamara Journey.

2 hours ago, kimandtim said:

I was upset by the itinerary change as well. Have done Dubrovnik before and while its a nice port, there isn't much to do beyond the walking the city walls, etc.- feel like its a one and done port.  Was really looking forward to Argostoli and the Cave/Lake excursions.

Thank you for your support! 🙂

Also 7 am to 2 pm is short time to stay in Dubrovnik. Very early arrival and midday departure.

It would be better to add Split as an alternative, which has not the restrictions of Dubrovnik and you would get both Argostoli & Split ports.

It is ridiculous that still NCL advertise the cruise as ''everyday a new port visit''.

At least they should update their website! 😛

7 hours ago, Cowboy296 said:

It doesn't start July 24, 2022. My cruise is June 19, 2022, I did not receive a letter, but Argostoli's port has been removed when I received my final payment invoice.

Yes they cancelled more sadly. Only 5 cruises remained as it were. 3 9-night cruises and 2 off season 7-day ones 😞

I found the real issue behind the removal of Argostoli's port.

It was Dubrovnik's request as it requires the ships calling to stay at least 8 hours on the port.

Gem was staying for 6 hours in the previous itinerary and in the new one it stays for 8 hours.

So it couldn't be on time if it made the call in Argostoli. So it was either Dubrovnik or Argostoli and they chose the first one sadly.

But who is gonna get up at 6 in the morning? 6:00-14:00 is not a convenient time. And I think another rule has that disembarkation cannot happen earlier than 7.

They could have changed with Split in Croatia and there wouldn't be a issue.

The arrival should be around 11 and not so early as in Dubrovnik and they would have kept the each day a port visit element that made unique this itinerary...

5 minutes ago, kochleffel said:

 

It was a long time ago when I checked. Maybe they have been added since then. I hope that there will be no more, because crowds are a problem there, especially when everyone needs to take the cable car down from Fira at the same time.

 

Trust me I know very well since I'm from Greece. And the overcrowding issue is being discussed lately with the minister of Tourism. But cruise lines keep insisting of putting the same and the same destinations all over again. (Example NCL has 4-5 ships in Eastern Med and all go into Mykonos, Santorini, Corfu, Kotor, Dubrovnik). It won't suprise me if these ports who face this issue act like Dubrovnik and only allow 2 ships per day.

It would have if also passengers made this remark on the review form they are asked to fill in at the end of each port's call.

50 minutes ago, kochleffel said:

My itinerary on the Jade includes many of the same ports, and the Gem and the Jade would have been at Argostoli on the same day.

 

Celebrity Edge, Norwegian Gem, Norwegian Jade, MSC Armonia, and Star Pride will all be at Mykonos on the same day. One of the best things about the Jade's itinerary is that no other cruise ship will be at Santorini then.

I'm scared about Jade too. Last year it cancelled and went to Olympia instead... Let's hope at least keep Jade's itinerary untouched this year. From next year if you see this itinerary on Jade is not offered. 😞

P.S. From what I see on my system (I have access to the greek ports schedules) on 28/5 2022 when you are in Santorini with Jade there will also be Mein Schiff 5 & Astoria Grande (former AIDAcara).

Argostoli port was always available for them and they also got priority because they had 24 calls scheduled by Norwegian Gem (compared to 12 from Brilliance ots) on Fridays and this means they would get the dock around 20/24 times. So saying the port wasn't available does not make sense at all.

NCL seems that is keeping more crowded destinations and is removing the less visited ones...

Argostoli is also the cheapest port compairing to all the other ports in the itinerary.

In addition, in Dubrovnik arrival time is listed as 6:00 but the port regulations say that no excursions can start until 7:00.

It was a unique itinerary before with a visit everyday in a different port, and now they made it just a regular one as the other itineraries companies are offering. For some companies Greece there is only Santorini, Mykonos, Corfu, Piraeus & Rhodes. If you see the future itineraries of NCL you can see they will follow this patern.

There is already a concern in Greece regarding those ports because habitants of these islands are complaining about overcrowding. Santorini recently imposed a restriction for only 4 ships at a day in the port. From what I hear other islands and cities will follow.

February 16, 2022
Dear Valued Guests and Travel Partners:
IMPORTANT INFORMATION Itinerary Change
On behalf of Norwegian Cruise Line (NCL), we thank you for your loyalty and for making us your vacation of choice. We have important information regarding Norwegian Gem’s 7-day sailings from July 24, 2022 sailings through and including October 16, 2022. Travel partners should share the below information with guests who may be affected.
Due to port availability, the above-mentioned itinerary has been changed.

Yeah more crowded destinations and removal of the less visited ones... Great job of NCL!

I can guarantee this is not a problem in Argostoli as there are other 120+ calls expected for the season.Argostoli is also the cheapest port compairing to all the other ports in the itinerary.

In addition, in Dubrovnik arrival time is listed as 6:00 but the port regulations say that no excursions can start until 7:00.

It was a unique itinerary before with a visit everyday in a different port, and now they made it just a regular one as the other itineraries companies are offering. For some companies Greece there is only Santorini, Mykonos, Corfu, Piraeus & Rhodes.

There is already a concern in Greece regarding those ports because habitants of these islands are complaining about overcrowding. Santorini recently imposed a restriction for only 4 ships at a day in the port. From what I hear other islands and cities will follow. NCL instead of helping the situation by removing one of those destinations for example, they decide to remove the less crowded one....

They are already on some TA sites.

Itineraries of Infinity were expected to be revealed with the ones of Millenium's and Eclipse's some months ago. It was supposed to be a winter season in Europe. But who knows what happened and they pushed them back?