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Took the bus.  It is exactly the same route and about 1/3 to 1/2 the time.  The bus also leave at much better times and is very reasonably priced.  

My wife and I went on a cruise to Alaska in August.  Wonderful trip and enjoyed all aspects of the cruise.  The sparkle was there still for cruising.  The  only problem is on the last night we notice a lot (over 60%) hacking and coughing.  Unfortunately  when we got home we did test positive for covid. We are both very healthy, no underlying conditions, on no medication and  triple vaxed.  The illness was moderate but not mild.  We tested negative after 9 days and most of the symptoms had gone.  HOwever, I have a lingering cough that i absolutely cannot shake.   So as much as we enjoy cruising, the idea of getting sick has taken some of the sparkle away.  Watching facebook pages it seems a lot of people are still getting sick after a 7 day cruise so it probably worse if you are on for longer stay.  For most, the illness seems to be fairly mild and I thought if we got it that it would not be too much to worry about.  Since I'm still coughing after more than a month it will be sometime before I consider another cruise.  

I think the crew are wise to wear a mask if they should choose to. They see what’s going on better than anyone.  On our last cruise, we noticed that hardly anyone was coughing at the beginning of the cruise, and at the end, a high percentage was. looking at the Facebook group after a cruise It’s a very high percentage they get Covid.  For the crew, they see this, and some of their livelihoods can depend on it, so I can sure understand if they choose to wear a mask. Covid is still out there and I can understand if they take precautions.

No scientific data to prove this as testing after the cruise is non existent. However, on the last night of our cruise over 50% were hacking.  All a similar cough.  It was not like that at the start of the cruise.  I honestly believe that the infection rate is at least 50% of the passengers.  Again not scientific but a very good observation.  We went 2.5 yrs without getting it and the cruise is a Covid capsule.  It will be a long time before we cruise again.  These cruise lines are not concerned about safety and only care about the profit.  

11 hours ago, bucfan2 said:

I’ll guess ‘several’ as well lol. 

The night before we departed, I’m not exaggerating that 50% or more were hacking.  We payed attention from the first night to the last and the coughing went from nonexistent to half in one week.  All the same coughing.  When we got the cough we knew but it took until we got home to test positive 

We just returned from Alaska and when we got on the ship there was no coughing.  The night before we departed, it seemed like 50% of the passengers were hacking.  There is a a reason the staff all wear n95’s.  We brought test kits and on the morning we depaywe had mild symptoms but tested negative.  The next morning at home we were positive which has huge implications for us.  We can’t look after our elderly parents so we are really upset with ourselves for going.  
 

for those that tested positive, how long did it take for you to get a negative test?

With a world pandemic that is killing people perhaps the title of this thread should read You can thank the CDC...

5 hours ago, Comi.uy said:

In the rare care ncl does go bankrupt, FCC will migrate to whoever purchases NCL.

Good luck with that.  

There is no way I would cruise next week.  Until a vaccine is made I don’t see what will be different this fall.  In fact the experts predict the second wave could be worse.  We canceled a December cruise.  Don’t need to worry about it. 

Nobody would cruise tomorrow.  Why would anything be different this summer or fall? There is no cure or vaccine in sight.  In fact most are saying the second wave will be worse. 

8 minutes ago, JimR24 said:

We have one planned in December and we hope to be on it.  My wife was looking in August with hopes we can go. 

 

I don't get the vaccine talk.  They have yet to find a "vaccine" that stops the flu and people are hoping they can control this virus with one.    

Really- you are comparing the flu to this virus? Please!  You are correct there is no vaccine for the flu but there are a “just a few “ more issues with this virus.  In case you have not noticed, the world has shutdown because of this virus and you actually think you will be on a cruise ship in August or December.    

I like cruising but I will wait at least 6 months after it starts.  Would not consider cruising until a vaccine is created.  18-24 months for a vaccine and at least 6 months for cruises to start and another 6 months for me.  I really don’t think I’ll be on a cruise ship until 2023
 

I seriously expect cruises to be the very last industry open and unfortunately a number of companies will no be in business do I expect it to be different.  

28 minutes ago, seaman11 said:

boy are you going to be shocked this summer.  already GA has reopened resturants and florida the parks and beaches. 

From what the experts say I think GA is Maia mistake and will probably have an increase in cases/deaths.  Myself, I have more trust in science than I do politicians.  I wish them luck but I’m not optimistic.  Time will tell.  

Not a hope.  The cruise industry will be the absolute last industry open.  Absolutely the last.  A vaccine is needed before anyone sails.  The experts are still estimating a vaccine is 18-24 months out.  My guess is sometime in 2022

Back to the original question if you will be sailing in June.  I would say there is a slight chance you will be sailing June 2022.  No way this year, very doubtful a year this June and only a small chance in 2022.  The risk and liability is too high until a vaccine is created and proven which is 18-24 months away.  The cruises industry will be the absolute last industry open.   

1 hour ago, Kirchoff91 said:

 

As long as the numbers go down and they can keep this under control they are not going to make cruises sit. The media is blowing this up like they do everything else. My GF is an ICU nurse and I work in a Police Department so I know how serious this is but the cruise industry  will be back before 2022.

You and your GF are much closer to the action.  Thanks for what you are doing.  Hope your right for so many reasons.  

4 hours ago, Kirchoff91 said:

2022 i will take your bet any day of the week.

Here is my logic.  Even tonight the “experts” are saying 18-24 months for a vaccine.  Cruises will the very last to get going.  Very last, so add another 6 months.  We are in 2022.  Hope I’m wrong. 
 

Curious how you think it will be sooner?  

I know I’m not getting near a cruise ship until there is a vaccine.  Regardless of your thoughts I would bet a lot of $$ that no one will be cruising until 2022 if the lines survive 

The cruise industry was one of the first to be impacted and I expect it will be the absolute very last to get going.  There is no way anyone is cruising this year.  A vaccine is needed first which is still 18 months away and I expect the cruises will start 6 months later.  Sometimes in 2022 is my prediction 

10 minutes ago, Laszlo said:

Trials beginning here today....

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/inovio-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-starts-in-philadelphia-kansas-city-2020-4

Great news!  I hope it works and hats off to the volunteers.  

Cruises were one of the first to feel the impact of the virus and I believe will be the vVERY last to get up and running. A vaccine is 18-24 months away and my guess is cruising will be another 6.  My guess is late 2022

It is great that curve is getting flattened.  However the area under the curve is the same.  Basically the same number of people get the virus but over a longer period.  With a flattened curve the icu’s can handle the sick.   
 

it will be a very long time before anyone cruises again 

30 minutes ago, firefly333 said:

This HAL ship is hitting the news several times a day and apt to continue.

 

Infected crews on ships, all ship need a deep cleaning

 

So many reason I doubt any ships can possibly sail until at least Aug or sept. 

 

I'd ride it out for the refund, option 1

There is absolutely no way any ship is sailing this August or September.  The cruise industry will be the very last to get going after a vaccine. A vaccine is at least 18 months away if one can be created.  There is still no vaccine for the common cold so there is no guarantee one can be developed for covid19.  
 

The cruise lines were one of the first to be impacted and will be the VERY last to get going again.  If a vaccine is 18-24 months away I would guess the cruises will start at least 6 months later.  My guess mid 2022

The cruise industry was one of the first impacted and my guess will be the last one to be up and running.  My guess a vaccine is 18-24 months away and cruising will be another 6

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