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10 hours ago, Dinglebert said:

So in short you want others to provide your herd immunity.  Not because you have an underlying issue but just because you are selfish.  It would appear you also choose your families choices.

Em actually my family chose to do what they want not me. I am not selfish, i dont want others to provide MY herd immunity  and you absolutley know nothing about me.

I am actually finished with cruise critics now.

Ive actually had enough of what some people actually say on here.

I have always stated MY opinion  only and when I have replied to posts i dont crisitcise anyone elses opinion but it seems there are too many people just wanting to put people down so this is why am will not post anything again

16 hours ago, Charles4515 said:

 

Seems misplaced that you would rather take the chance of getting Covid over some minor side effects of a vaccine. Probably for the best that cruises are not of importance to you. A vaccine will be the best chance for living normally including traveling again although what is normal will certainly be changed even with a vaccine.


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nothing misplaced about it. You can chose to have the vaccine and i can chose not to.

I don't mention anything you or anyone wanting to take it but you feel the need to say that i am taking a chance of getting covid.

I am not taking chances of getting covid. I am doing all that is mandatory with social distancing, wearing mask in shops and with my hygiene washing hands etc.

I do not take any other vaccines because I chose not to

The end

1 hour ago, mek said:

That's the whole point of testing - to determine if it's effective w/o side effects.  Concerning possible long term side effects, we really don't have 6 or 7 years to study that, do we? Besides, we keep hearing about possible long term side effects from the virus even if a person recovers - so which is worse?  Anything is possible, but I'm 70 and want to start living my life normally again just as soon as a vaccine is available.  I'll be first in line and I'll worry about 10 years from now at that time.

 it take years and years to determine side effects so to "just get on cruise"  is not something of importance to me. i agree about wanting to life life normally and i am ...as much as can at present but no thanks for vaccine for me

my family and i would not get the vacination ... something that has not been tested or had years to see if any side effects....

if that means we cant cruise then so be it

never will my family or I get a vacination just to go cruising and I seriously dont believe ANY cruise line will ask that to be a mandatory condition

6 hours ago, bigrednole said:

The cruise industry has already run all scenarios, Oct 1, Nov 1, Dec 1, Jan 1, etc. They have a line in the sand where they will declare bankruptcy. That will kill anyone and everyone with a FCC or a cruise booked with FCC. In my opinion, they are all geared for no cruising until March or April 2021. They have been making plans to drive to that. It is sad, but it is reality.

yep i fully agree.

that is why we took refund.

so sad if that happens but no business can continue with no revenue for this period of time

When we have cruised with royal caribbean and also on Norweighan (they have different age groups for both cruise lines or they did for our last few cruises) our daughter went to teen clubs -  it really was just a  meeting place to meet up and then hang out with them - not much organised events for the teen club as such although there were a few events which were enjoyable and really glad they have the club for teens which my daughter really enjoyed .

With that being said, I would definetly say for your teenager to go to teen club on first day/night meet up (cant remember what it is called ) as that way they will meet people their age they can hang out with throught the cruise.

Our daughter did that  and met some really nice friends who she went to lunch with , hung out at the club at night or wondered about the cruise ship, played in pool etc and she had a great time

Defintely worth participing in for teens

We loved the EPIC.

Yes the shower room set up is not the best  but don't  let it bother you too much as it is only a small part.

The entertainment on the EPIC was the best we had ever been on  (this was our first NCL cruise as we have always been on RCI but we would definetely go back with NCL)

There was so much variety of entertainment for us to choose from every night - much more variety than RCI for us but that is just our opinion but we always had some much fun everynight.

There are a variety of food options which are great

The service was great also

So we had NO complaints on this ship

We would travel on EPIC again... however when we went to book for this year (prior to covid 19) it was the same shows that we had seen 2 years ago so that was the only reason we went with RCI to book as i like different shows. The crusie ports were the same but that doesnt bother us.

4 hours ago, tsundet said:

Summer is officially from June-August. Having said that, there's absolutely unpredictability in the weather. Also this year the weather is more unpredictable than ever. Strong winds and cancelled ferry service to continental europe in the south as late as beginning of July. In general it's been grey and gloomy most of July all over the country. In June we were blessed with sun, and dry weather with temperatures up to 30 + (celcius) -  (with forest fires even some places).

If you want to experience the midnight sun, be sure to plan a trip to northern norway during summer.
 

thanks so much for your reply

appreciated

13 hours ago, xpcdoojk said:

Ok, I have been watching this thread for several hours, and I feel compelled to help.  (Not at all sure that I am healthy because of this)

 

I have been to Norway in June and in February.  I am not a people from Norway... but I am not sure that there is any time when you would say it is sunny in Norway.  In February, the sun was sort of shining on the mountains over there, and it was sort or light out, but I wasn’t worried about getting a sunburn.  In June we had a cold rain one day and lots of sunshine the rest of the time with the temperatures around 70F or 21C for a high.

 

What I am trying to say, carefully, is that your post seems a bit challenging.  Why don’t you start over?  Maybe say I would like to go to Norway, when is the weather most likely to be pleasant.  Or when do you think I can go to Nashville and see a concert.

 

just trying to help.

 

jc

hi thanks for your reply

however i think that is what i did say in my post. but it was probably not the best place to post this question as i should have  just used my ""friend" Google. lol

its good to try new things  so i will certainly look into my question online

1 hour ago, chipmaster said:

 

Yup you know it all,  clearly very  observant based on all the replies above, LOL

nup. i certainly don't know it all but just state my opinion.

6 hours ago, beerman2 said:

Why use one person's quote and comment on it 6 different times? A little overkill I think.

 

We can definitely see/read you don't agree.

the 6 times was obviously an error as i did not know i had sent it 6 or whatever number of times so my apolgies for my error - no idea why that happened as i only thought i had sent it once

mistakes happen

and when i had noticed it i did try to delete but i was unable to see how to do that.

1 hour ago, chipmaster said:

 

Seriously you aren't willing to wear a 2-3 dollar mask?

 

What lack of resource are you talking about, you can buy a simple cloth mask almost anywhere.   

I disagree with the mask thing . A lot of People who are wearing them do not wear them correctly. They are always tugging then or talking to people without mask over their face so the what is the point. This makes them

ineffectiveless and people wear them as they think psychologically they are doing Something so false sense if protection and they think they are doing something positive and supporting who ever is saying it helps. Mmm well everyone is entitled to an opinion

it has nothing to do the spending £1 or whatever on a mask for me Or most people who

don’t want to wear masks . I just think washing hands is sufficient... imo. So let people do what they think and leave them alone to do that and you do your thing 

On 5/9/2020 at 12:23 AM, Outerdog said:

 

They help. They do not "protect everyone else" -- they offer some protection.

I don’t  agree. People are wearing masks Cos they have been

advised to but they are joy using them

correctly imo so it is a waste of time.  As i have said in previous posts why bring mask wearing in now when the horse has already bolted... clutching at straws to show they are doing something however Washing hands is suffice imo. 

However where it is mandatory I will wear one but don’t agree with it One little bit 

On 5/9/2020 at 12:23 AM, Outerdog said:

 

They help. They do not "protect everyone else" -- they offer some protection.

I don’t  agree. People are wearing masks Cos they have been

advised to but they are joy using them

correctly imo so it is a waste of time.  As i have said in previous posts why bring mask wearing in now when the horse has already bolted... clutching at straws to show they are doing something however Washing hands is suffice imo. 

However where it is mandatory I will wear one but don’t agree with it One little bit 

On 5/9/2020 at 12:23 AM, Outerdog said:

 

They help. They do not "protect everyone else" -- they offer some protection.

I don’t  agree. People are wearing masks Cos they have been

advised to but they are joy using them

correctly imo so it is a waste of time.  As i have said in previous posts why bring mask wearing in now when the horse has already bolted... clutching at straws to show they are doing something however Washing hands is suffice imo. 

However where it is mandatory I will wear one but don’t agree with it One little bit 

On 5/9/2020 at 12:23 AM, Outerdog said:

 

They help. They do not "protect everyone else" -- they offer some protection.

I don’t  agree. Washing hands is suffice imo. 

However where it is mandatory I will wear one but don’t agree with it 

On 5/9/2020 at 12:23 AM, Outerdog said:

 

They help. They do not "protect everyone else" -- they offer some protection.

I don’t  agree. Washing hands is suffice imo. 

However where it is mandatory I will wear one but don’t agree with it 

I am sure there will people from Norway who can answer my question

i have been looking at different cruises...for later one of course ... and I keep seeing ones for Norway etc. I like sunshine so wondering what time of year is nice to go cruising to Norway to get sunshine.

also what is weather like October November  Time just so i can get q

picture of it. I want to get to do something different from the med when we are able to cruise That is not to far From

uk. I love America cruises and I will get to Nashville eventually Cos I need to go there but I think I’ll wait till a special occasion to go the distance 

 it right now to far to travel 

thanks in advance 

yeah well that is no surprise

like i have said in previous posts other industries are back in business...so why not cruise lines. i think they should open  up NOW  and all cruise lines are wishing that too.

But it aint gonna happen. The cruise industry has never been regarded favourably ... for what ever reason and by whoever (who obviously hasnt cruised) i dont get it... at all. but imho just get on with it. get it up and running so they can get their livelihoods back... and lets get on with life

49 minutes ago, broberts said:

 

As Dr Fauci and others said at the time, it was more important that masks be reserved for medical staff. Once data established that non medical masks are effective the guidance changed to encourage mask wearing.

 

I simply don't understand the argument that because expert thinking has changed, it has to be wrong.

 

If one doesn't want to accept current recommendations, at least take the time to gather real data so that a reasoned decision can be made. Virus don't care about what people chose to believe.

Em I didn’t say it was wrong .

as cruise critic is an opinion site I simply stated my opinion. You can have your opinion and I can have mine 

take care 

4 hours ago, alfaeric said:

So you know that there are people who think differently than you- I'm blown away by the resistance to wear masks.  How does wearing a mask force you to have a bad time, or is some kind of horrible oppressive device?  That absolutely makes no sense what so ever.  I don't recall anyone protesting the requirement to wear a shirt and shoes to a restaurant....

 

Nor the idea that being 6 feet apart means that you can't socialize with other people- I've had plenty of conversations with people in the last 4 months were we both kept apart.  Physical distancing does not mean the end of socialization.

 

Then, there are plenty of private people out there who have no interest in meeting anyone else. 

 

If you want to think this is some kind of oppressive movement, that's fine.  But don't assume that everyone in the world thinks exactly like you.  

 

And MY issue with going on a cruise has less to do with the cruise lines and far, far more to do with what the states we have to travel through are doing.   There's no way we are going to Florida for a LONG time given they are very much out of control.  Maybe Cape Liberty- as long as it does not stop in Florida.

 

At least the cruise lines are TRYING to come up with a way to prevent spread and make passengers feel safe enough to cruise.  As opposed to some of the states where cruises start from.

and i am blown away as to why there are so many people  willing to "just go with what is announced just so they can cruise" .... but hey that is up to them. I dont really want to  judge but felt i had to comment on your comment.

wearing a shirt and tie is way way different to wearing a mask all the time on a cruise... and you will probably know that yourself however you chose to wear a mask...but imo most people will not wear a mask on a cruise

I have actually had enough of the mask debate...

So if wearing a mask is so good to stop spreading  covid why was it not implemented at the VERY beginning... Because imo it is not proven to be that effective... i am not one of those people who just goes with what is said. i go with what i believe (however if it mandatory in some places i would need adhere to that  or not go to wherever it is mandatory). however i am also not one of those people who can just go along with what is being asked when it constantly changes. Masks were not mandatory at the beginning of covid ...maybe if it had been things would have been different ... but the horse has already bolted... so why now???

The cruise lines will be trying to come up with ways to prevent it however masks are not one of the things that will be mandated EVER. However if people on a cruise are wearing a mask when/if i  cruise then that is up to them and i will not judge however i got to say how many of the mask wearers will judge a fellow cruiser who is not wearing one... well i can safely guess at lease 97%.

So let mask wearers do their thing and wear a mask if that is what makes you happy and let the no  mask wearers decide it is not for them

That way everyone will be happy

Happy cruising to you

4 hours ago, Ocean Boy said:

I'm rather blown away that after months of talking about this on these boards that you can't understand any viewpoint but your own on this mask issue.

 

And how wearing clothes remotely equates to a mask over your nose and mouth completely escapes me.

well said

26 minutes ago, ECCruise said:

None of this has been approved by the CDC.  It is a marketing gimmick to sell cruises.  "Don't worry, we will keep you safe." 

Book here.

NCL and RCCL are trying to develop a coordinated plan to propose to the CDC.  It is a task force "to develop and improve safety standards"  Absolutely nothing has been decided yet.

 

There is zero chance that you will sail anytime in the next 6 months-1 year without masks being mandated.  Zero.

yep  our cruise this year was cancelled

we would be sailing this saturday so i will need to wait till next summer to see what happening with cruises before i book as i have said in previous posts ...we will not cruise with these restrictions... and we are fine with that but even then if restrictions are still in place we will not cruise.

we are decorating at this moment in time instead of cruising ... so i am sure we will find something to spend our money on if cruising is not on the list next year

On 6/1/2020 at 7:57 PM, Fredric22 said:

NCL just released their safety procedures.  I see no mention of masks... yet.

Fantastic.

I didnt think they would make it mandatory

44 minutes ago, BirdTravels said:

But most hospitality is NOT going on without masks. Most require masks. Cruise lines MUST require masks. 
 

And in places stupid enough not to require masks, thousands of people are infected EVERY DAY. 

 

The vast majority of people don’t social distance. From the grocery store to restaurants to resorts. People are so self important that the won’t wait,,, the just reach over your shoulder to grab an item off a shelf.
 

People will stand next to each other drinking (I.e., with masks off) a cocktail at a resort. They make fun of social distancing dots on the floor. They will not wait for an elevator to adhere to the 4 person max rules. 

well in the UK it is not mandatory to wear masks in bars /restaurants

it is mandatory to wear them on public transport and in retail

And imo "majority of people are not so self important" as you said. Of course you will get the odd few but not majority.

But i just think a lot of people are just wanting to get on with life instead of being scared to go out

However i see people waiting in queue at retail with masks in hand or in their bag and  talking to people (not social distancing i may add) then put mask on to go in the shop...actually is that gonna work for the people who feel people should be wearing masks....mmmm

I think a lot of the stuff we are reading  and hearing are scaremongering in my honest opinion....just saying