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  1. Highest daily cost, but still no water included. At least they could have finally included water like the other lines.
  2. One other interesting note of the sky suite photo is the small built-in cabinet on the wall to the left of the bed. Usually these are free-standing cabinets that can be removed to split the bed if requested, but this looks like a permanent obstruction possibly preventing splitting the bed. Wonder if this proves that not all king beds can be split like we had been told.
  3. Looking at the latest Retreat photos and the fact sheet really show that there isn’t a lot of space here for their 1st dedicated pool deck. We were on the MSC seaside on May in the Yacht Club. Realize it is a larger ship but was curious of it’s specs for comparison. MSC YC Rooms - 86, approx 180 passengers double occupancy Pool deck - 17,222 sf Restaurant- 6800 sf Lounge - no info but larger sf than restaurant Edge rooms per Vt above 176, approx 352 double occupancy Retreat pool, 12,701 sf, 190 seats Luminae- 4133 sf, 170 seats Lounge - 3585 sf My impression - Edge suite facilities are not very spacious for the number of suite passengers and at best can only accommodate 1/2 the people. Couldn’t find any specs for NCL Haven, but I think Edge is a closer match for the Breakaway class Haven.
  4. I can’t imagine that Luminae would still be able to easily provide MDR items with a location 8 decks higher and at the opposite end of the ship with the Edge class.
  5. Agree with the hope for innovative itineraries but tough to do much different in 7 days from NY. MSC is supposed to bring the Meraviglia up in 2020 for at least the summer after a few longer cruises in 2019. Sailed on the Seaside and we agree that they still have some progress to make an appealing product to a broad American audience.
  6. Their year-round competitors NCL have rotated in or will rotate all their new ships out of NY. Always nice to have new ships/shows every year. Carnival seasonally has also brought a different ship each summer. Sounds like MSC and Disney will have larger NY presence too so Royal/celebrity need to shake up their NY deployment to keep it fresh. Personally we have been on the Anthem and Summit multiple times and don’t want the same product again when we continue to have other new options on other lines.
  7. Thanks for the fact sheet Tall-Cruiser! Love the description of the Retreat pool - “full sized pool”. Based upon Lloyd’s photo, it looks like it is a full size pool circa Love Boat Captain Stubbing days :cool:
  8. Seeing the charging box more, appears that it would be more of a fire hazard. You just know that some passengers will put their charging devices in the box and close the top instead of looping the cord through the slots and keeping the device outside. So many issues with devices overheating. Are the boxes fireproof? I know the intention is to put the cords through the outside slots but I can see many phones going in the box. I know that many cruises, they remind you to unplug your devices when you leave the room. They will even say that stewards will unplug. Might be a little more difficult with a box.
  9. Carnival certainly made a fortune off the Horizon this summer based upon sailing on it and constantly checking prices. They have so many ships in the Caribbean year round that they can certainly afford to have a newer ship in NY for the summer with the price premium it can command for the NYC summer vacation time. We thoroughly enjoyed the Horizon, but as our survey stated, we won’t sail on another ship without the Havana area. I did read that the NCL Encore would be in NY summer 2020. Rumor has it that MSC Meraviglia will also be in NY in summer 2020. Royal/celebrity are also do for an upgrade. So Carnival better send something better than another revamp in 2020 if they want to compete.
  10. Thanks Lloyd for the photos! Lots of progress since the last inside photos. Figured there must be real progress for them to invite the press onboard.
  11. Thanks everyone for their info! We just moved from 10144 to 10141 so per VT’s markups we have avoided the balcony pole. I did say to the rep we have no idea if any exist in the cabins which would be more of a problem in my mind if the support was in the cabin rather than the balcony. Only time will tell :D
  12. Thanks for all the info and Vtcruising for the markups! Gave in and made our final payment for our lovely pole balcony room. Nobody so far has given up a pole free sky room on our voyage yet so we will keep looking, but otherwise we are ready for our pole in a few months!
  13. Just an FYI, the Swizzle Inn near the caves is the second/newer location that gets mixed reviews. The original is at the other end of the island near the airport/St. George.
  14. We are also not happy about the poles either. We are in an S1 and I thought we had a bulkhead, but got our reminder for final payment and we have 10144 instead with the wonderful poles. No other cabins in the category are available. I think that I can only remember one other older ship that had poles out on the balcony. These are supposed to be state of the art ships that shouldn’t need supports and may just be there for looks more than function. Will it ruin our trip, no, but I agree that it is ridiculous to have any obstruction at the price point we are paying. Guess maybe they will only get the point if we start canceling and let them know it is due to polegate 😎
  15. Thanks for the article! We have skipped Wonderland on Royal’s ships since the menus are too adventurous for us. The Eden menu seems very similar which is why we haven’t booked along with not wanting to have a Cirque show happening around you. I am sure that many people will be intrigued and book. I do agree that for most people it would be one and done since it is a very specialized product and may not hold up to repeated visits. I think in the end, Eden will be a gimmicky spot like 270 on the Anthem of the Seas that was a beautiful space, but largely wasted during the day. Hopefully as the article indicates they will make Eden more multi purpose.
  16. Thanks Vtcruising! Great to have so much detailed info. We have a suite booked, but still unsure if we will pay the steep price tag Love the specs on the Retreat sundeck. Have been very curious on the # of people it could accommodate with the large number of suites. Your specs seem to indicate at best only half the suite guests could have seats there. Not sure how many spaces will be additional fee cabanas since I expect they will even charge extra in the retreat. We have found that NCL Haven and the MSC Seaside have plenty of seating for the suites. The Seaside had a huge amount of space just no shade. Not sure we can say the same for the Edge space. We would spend quite a bit of time there and don't feel any suite guests should be shortchanged in space at the ultra premium prices. I realize that not everyone will sit out there but these specs do give reason to pause that the space may not be sufficient, but time will tell.
  17. Form over function once again :D Should we start asking for an obstructed view discount?
  18. Thanks for the pictures Lloyd! Very interesting to see the workers underneath the suites (assuming they are them) in the first set of photos you posted. The balconies have a blue portion in the glass up to the rail which might restrict view if not see through. One room even has a support pole in the middle of the balcony. Would expect that you design a clean balcony for the suites at the prices they are charging.
  19. We also just got off and we were in a Havana Cabana. The vibration seemed to be a little better after the technician boarded from Grand Turk. One officer told us that they couldn’t run the engines at normal power/speed for extended periods of time. We still felt that there was still ocassional rumbles from the engines so it was still not completely fixed. It was like an earthquake struck at the Havana pool when we left Grand Turk and the ship really shook/rattle, but as I said the vibrations got better each succeeding day. We did get in extra early this morning so hopefully they can get some extra hands and complete the fixes for your sailings.
  20. I agree with how stale the acrobats are. Very talented, but so over used, I don’t care if we ever see them again. Were recently on the MSC Seaside and there were acrobats every night! We kept saying they can’t possibly have acrobats again the next night and they did! I don’t understand why cruise line executives are still convinced that this is the only sophisticated cutting edge entertainment people want to see. Was hoping Celebrity might finally produce some very novel main shows with Edge. I fear they are going to once again recycle Cirque-type entertainment based upon the reveal, but I guess we can hope it may turn out better.
  21. I did see John post the IMAX movies on the Vista for early August. They were Mission Impossible, Antman and Mama Mia. So it appears 3 rotate along with the standard imax documentaries. You can just check the IMAX website to see what new releases are around your actual sailing date. Not many are released in IMAX. They seem to get releases very quickly on the boat. The MEG, Alpha and the Nun were the only August/early September releases when I checked recently.
  22. Thanks to Lloyd and Vtcruising for the photos! Love the look of the ship until this last shot at sea. The color outline of the MC and the white hull at its bottom just disrupts the whole flow of the ship imo.
  23. We sailed on the Seaside in May and we felt it was the most casual across all the cruise lines we have been on. Very few suits and dresses on elegant nights walking around the ship. Tons of shorts on other nights. Can’t comment on MDR enforcement. We were in the Yacht Club and were shocked at some outfits on some nights including elegant nights. Saw one guy with a cutoff tee on elegant night and gym shorts on other nights. No concern to Maitre’d.
  24. Thanks in advance, have to wait 3 weeks for our Havana cabin so look forward to your review.
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