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Hi! For our next cruise on the Joy we booked cabin 14856. Not sure when it changed but it says it's now an "enclosed balcony" in one place and a PrivaSea balcony in another. I know what they are when they're at the front of the ship, but when it's an angled balcony on the side of the ship, does anyone know what that would be like? Pictures would be awesome! Thx! 

19 minutes ago, www3traveler said:

Just looking at pictures on the website, the bed is on the wall closer to the closet.  The pictures show an open area in front of the window with a couch and a pulldown bed along the wall and then the bed.

18 minutes ago, CaptainBazz said:

According to the pictures on NCL website the bed is to the side of the room. With porthole windows it is under the window.

Thank you. That's what I saw also but my NCL rep said no, they are under the window.

Are there any recent cruisers out there that have been in any of these cabins? 

We are looking to book the Sun in a picture window cabin and I can't tell if any of them have the bed on a side wall and not directly under the window. Does anyone know if they even have them? Thank you for any information you might have!

My first vaccine is handwritten, my second is a sticker, and my third is handwritten. My husband's is all hand written. They took both of ours without any problems in December.

We've been on Breakaway, Pride of America, Sun, Joy, Pearl, Jewel, Gem, Dawn, Star. The Joy is by far our favorite ship. It didn't feel as large as it, plus it felt like it had so many nice places to relax both inside and out. Breakaway and Gem were our least favorite.

3 hours ago, ontheweb said:

Ok, end of discussion. But, since you seem to be so stressed on the topic, I find this to be a great stress reliever, and it even has cruise ships on it.

 

 

Why do you seem so stressed to make sure everyone believes you? Clearly with what's been posted, I asked a valid question, and there are valid reasons for my concerns. My original question was answered, they can and do move people to inside and porthole cabins. Do you think a song will help with claustrophobia?

3 hours ago, ontheweb said:

I agee that the crew meal was delivered in error, but my point was that even the crew who were in quarantine were getting balconies. And since new crew were required quarantine while few passengers were, it is not surprising that whoever delivered that crew meal in error expected crew members to be in that cabin.

Sure...🤣🤣🤣

1 minute ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

@Steve and Sharon It's not a problem for me to search. I had a good idea where to look since I've been following this whole scenario pretty closely. I'm not offended at all when people ask for 'proof' or links. I think it lends itself to good dialogue.

 

You are on the Gem. I am 99% sure that the Gem's quarantine area is deck 4 near the medical center. Of course, that could change and quarantine people could be placed in balcony cabins on another deck, but at this time, anything other than deck 4 would be a total shocker to me. 

 

 

Thank you. I don't mind being asked for proof either, but I asked the original question because I couldn't find anything, and therefore, obviously I had no proof of anything. I'm truly not even sure what proof I was being asked for.

We are actually scheduled for the Jewel, which sounds like deck 4 also. I guess we will have to see how things play out.

Thanks again.

1 minute ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

 

LOL.. we are friends! Seriously, you make me chuckle and I feel like we can disagree without being hostile. I do get where you are coming from (most of the time lol). 

 

Here is a old quote from someone who was onboard the Gem and specifically references the quarantine section on deck 4 (which is the medical center deck with no balcony cabins). All of the ships are quarantining on the medical center deck Chief. Please don't make me dig any farther lol

 

2 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

 

LOL.. we are friends! Seriously, you make me chuckle and I feel like we can disagree without being hostile. I do get where you are coming from (most of the time lol). 

 

Here is a old quote from someone who was onboard the Gem and specifically references the quarantine section on deck 4 (which is the medical center deck with no balcony cabins). All of the ships are quarantining on the medical center deck Chief. Please don't make me dig any farther lol

 

 

Stories abound with proof confirming what I was originally asking. Thank you for searching. Search never seems to work well very with my phone. 

Thank you everyone for your responses. From what I gather, it would depend on what ship or cruise line we may be on to determine whether or not we would be moved to another balcony in a quarantined area, or moved to the lower decks in an inside or porthole cabin near the medical center. From what's been said, it sounds like it would be the latter on our currently booked ship. And yes, if very ill, that's near where we should be. But if NCL wants just to quarantine? We need to think hard about what to do.

6 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

My last post on the subject---where do you have any proof of anyone being quarantined, even crew members, in any type of cabin other than a balcony?

My last response TO YOU. Please go back and read my original post. If I had any proof of anything, why would I have asked the question in the first place? Get it? Rhetorical question, no response needed.

3 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

Since you gave me a like on the post where I posted that blog, I am assuming you read it.

 

At one point the blogger mentions that though they can order whatever meals they want, they found the meal outside their door that was the usual crew meal. They are not in a balcony for quarantine because they paid for an even more expensive cabin; they are there because that is where quarantine happens EVEN FOR CREW MEMBERS. 

 

Don't you think that the cruise lines would provide less expensive cabins for the crew if they could? They are not putting anyone quarantined in any cabin other than a balcony!!!!!

Yes, I read it. So, simply put, you have no proof. Got it!

7 minutes ago, prunderw said:

Many ship's cabins do not have separated HVAC, so neighboring cabins are sharing HVAC and all that goes into their HVAC.  So most ships move covid passengers and covid contact passengers to areas where they will not potential effect other passengers just by staying in their cabin.  In 2020, covid passengers were not moved and covid spread to neighboring cabins/passengers on many ships.

Would you stay in your cabin when your neighbor's door is posted COVID ISOLATION and delivers are being made by fully encased staff/doctors? 

Nope, they need to be moved. That's why I was asking if and where people would be moved. I also would not want to be near an area where some cabins are roped off.

6 minutes ago, GeezerCouple said:

 

I'm pretty sure those HAL passengers were in a Neptune suite on their current "quarantine cruise".

Their reference to their stay in a Pinnacle suite was from a previous cruise (a few months ago, IIRC).

 

And unfortunately, they did not continue their cruise quarantined in a Neptune suite, but at least they had a smaller suite with a balcony.  (Why do medium-sized cabins that are all "one area" get labeled as "suites" in cruise parlance?  I've never understood that, but I digress...)

I'm not quite sure, but it seemed like they had paid for an upgrade to that Neptune suite, and the upgrade fee was refunded.

 

One thing I'd like to know is:  If someone is downgraded to a category cabin/suite lower/less expensive than one originally paid for,  do they get a pro-rated refund for the difference?  It doesn't make any sense otherwise.  And that doesn't help situations where someone would absolutely *not* sail in some lesser accommodation; they'd skip a cruise rather than take something they didn't want.  So "refunding the difference" still isn't really satisfactory.  But these are not normal times (and I hope they don't become normal times!).  I would hope that they would try to keep "similar accommodations" available in "quarantine" sections, but obviously this can't be guaranteed.  And for someone who IS in some relatively unique cabin/suite (such as HAL Pinnacle, or an OS in some other line, etc.), there just wouldn't be "something similar" available.

 

Mostly, I would hope that someone who had a balcony would not get quarantined in a cabin without a balcony;  a window "with a nice view" doesn't at all match a balcony with fresh air.

However, those who purposefully booked something like an inside cabin... well, they presumably expected to have plenty of time "in fresh air" elsewhere on the ship and probably on excursions!

 

Way back in spring, 2020, there were ships that were stranded, but at least some (one?) of them seemed to allow passengers to have short times walking around on an outside deck, carefully spaced, for exercise and fresh air.

 

This gets very tricky, and I wonder to what extent the cruise lines are truly doing their best to be equitable.  The more people who need quarantining, the more difficult this will be, of course, and with how quickly/easily Omicron spreads... not so good, and especially with somewhat longer trips.

 

GC

 

That's what is concerning me. We book a balcony for my claustrophobia and the ability to get fresh air. Someone said earlier that the Jewel class is quarantining on deck 4 where there are no balcony cabins. We are booked on the Jewel, so they wouldn't be able to give us a balcony. 

1 minute ago, ontheweb said:

Do they have proof of this? Is there any account of a passenger (or even a crew member) being quarantined into anything other than a balcony? 

 

From what I have read, areas are being roped off so no others can go there. How would you rope off the area by the medical center since there would be a need for it to be used other than just for those who test positive for Covid?

Hmmm. Do you have proof of your claim? And ask them, not me. They are the ones that stated it. Go back and find the posts, and then read them for yourself if you want. 

1 minute ago, ontheweb said:

I actually instead of using the word conjecture about being moved into an inside for quarantine should have used the word FEAR.

You need to read correctly. ONCE AGAIN, an inside cabin was not mentioned in my original post.

Just now, ontheweb said:

Have you seen or read any account of someone being actually quarantined in an inside cabin? As I previously wrote even crew members quarantined are put in balconies, not the less expensive inside cabins.

Again, no, that is not the question I asked. I did not mention moving to an INSIDE cabin in my original post. I said a cabin that you cannot step outside. And yes, SOME may go to balcony cabins, but for those being sent to quarantine near the medical center, which many times may be on a deck with only portholes and inside cabins, is my concern. Like a poster said above, Jewel class are quarantined on deck 4, therefore, no BALCONY. Please read my original post again. SHEESH!

21 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

I never said people were not moved. What I did say was there are not passengers being quarantined to INSIDE cabins. That was the question asked. I have seen no proof of that happening.

 

The blog I posted gave someone's experience. I thought it would be helpful. And the passengers were sent to a BALCONY cabin.

No, that is not the question I asked. I did not mention moving to an INSIDE cabin in my original post. I said a cabin that you cannot step outside. Please read it again. And yes, SOME may go to balcony cabins, but for those being sent to quarantine near the medical center, which many times may be on a deck with only portholes and inside cabins, is my concern. Like a poster said above, Jewel class are quarantined on deck 4, therefore, no BALCONY.

4 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

 

Totally understand that piece of the puzzle. On the Jewel class ships it seems they are quarantining on deck 4 which has no balconies. It's all very complex.

Great. We are booked on the Jewel. 😟

24 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

 

I don't think that solves the problem because you can be confined to a quarantine room just because of a close contact. That is the part that sticks me. If I test positive, or if I am sick, I have no issue quarantining. But I'm not comfortable with the risk of being quarantined just because I sat next to the wrong person in a bar.

 

As far as inside cabin quarantine: There have been reports of being quarantined in an inside cabin. There have been reports of being quarantined in an outside cabin, and there have been reports  of being quarantined in a balcony cabin.

 

What would solve this debate is if NCL would publish a policy. In the case of the article above, the HAL passenger was in the Pinnacle Suite which is the best cabin on the entire ship. They quarantined in a balcony cabin (half the size, but it was a balcony). Does the level you booked have any relationship to the cabin type you quarantine in? These are all questions NCL could answer. I know that for me, if I knew that if I booked a balcony room, I would be quarantined in a balcony room I would feel better about the risk. 

That does make a lot of sense. It would be nice if they would publicly address this. Unfortunately it has been said on here that they quarantine near the medical center, which is understandable for actively sick patients. For most of my cruises the medical center is way down on one of the lowest decks without balcony cabins, only portholes and inside cabins. 

5 minutes ago, TNcruising02 said:

I think a solution would be that if a person in your cabin has a headache, sore throat, or a cough, just isolate in your balcony cabin and order room service unless the symptoms are severe.  I would not go to the medical center for a sore throat.  But I also would not go out and about with a sore throat either.  I understand how claustrophobia is an issue with inside cabins when a person can't even leave it for a break.  That is a real issue.

Thank you.

3 hours ago, ontheweb said:

I also think they are making it up.

 

Anyway, here is a real account of someone quarantined on a ship. It is not an NCL ship, rather a HAL ship.

 

What Happens When You Get COVID on a Luxury Cruise? - Mark McElroy

Why do you think it's made up when others here have posted that it has happened to them, especially when you post the link that you did of it actually happening on another line? I was simply asking if anyone knew of this happening on an NCL ship. I wasn't asking for horror stories. I was asking about them moving people out of their own cabin to possibly an inside cabin. Can you please explain what the problem is?

8 hours ago, ChiefMateJRK said:

🤣  Yeah, that's exactly what I thought...  I'm guessing that you're Sharon and not Steve.

You poor thing! You've got a problem with women too. Moving on.

14 minutes ago, ChiefMateJRK said:

What does that have to do with anything?  Threads on other sites can also be linked.  I'm suspecting that this is a tall tale.  If you can provide evidence otherwise, I'll gladly retract my "contributions."  🤣

Well if it's a tall tale, I didn't start it. It's too bad you can't get past your paranoia of tall tales, but there are others on here that have made valid contributions to this thread with their experiences and concerns. Claustrophobia is a valid concern to many of us. Even if I could go back and find the proof you so badly seem to need, too bad, I wouldn't for you. Get over yourself.