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Personally, I don’t think the TA was clumsy. Since there’s no handle he probably needed to push the cabinet door in to release it, not pull on it. 😉

There is a channel-shaped aluminum profile on the edge of that cabinet door - this is your handle :)

We don' t face the same way ...

This is way too funny, good thing I wasn't chewing anything when read your post - otherwise my dentures would've gone airborne :'):'):'):'):')

I´m still missing some wider shelf space for folded T-shirts. That cabinet is way too narrow. It´s just for small stuff.

What about the chest of drawers along the side wall, next to the fridge? ;)

Wow, it is a bit of a mystery but what else could it be? Part of the Eden walk?

This is the gym; this picture is definitely made on the bow, not Eden - look, there is no open space above it, it's clearly either 14th or 15th deck. But it is not the spa, just check the framework around the entrance - it could only be the gym because in the spa the entrance (per plans) will be a bit more fancy :D

Not only it shows the extra storage space for small thingies, it also shows that in the reverse bed setting (not at the balcony) the curved nightstand now goes next to the bed closer to the bathroom. Mystery solved!!!

Don't know if this photo has already been posted.

 

Hot diggity, Lloyd, this is awesome!!! THANKS!!!

Looks very nice, and yes darker than the rest of the ship. A nice contrast.

 

I know the restrooms you're talking about on the S-Class as the Ensemble Lounge is a favorite. I don't remember the sayings though. I wonder if all the ships of the class have them, as I haven't sailed on REFLECTION yet? It's nice that designers are even taking smaller spaces like public restrooms and foyers/corridors into account these days.

Every public restroom on S class ships in men's section has these stainless steel plates with eternal wisdom sayings by the greats. I like them a lot. Beats many of the loos in Maryland bars, btw.

(Ladies, I am not going to the public restrooms to get a word of wisdom, trust me. But it is a nice thing to have - regardless of the purpose of your visit...)

Thanks to those people who have posted great photos and information regarding the Edge. Getting very excited for May next year! I have not seen any photos or seen any descriptions of the lifts. ( Did I miss anything?) We love the open glass lifts on the Solstice class ships. Will the Edge lifts be glass? Thank you if anyone has information on these.

Based on the renderings and on the deck plans - no.

S class ships have a huge opening from top to bottom in the center of the elevator bundle, where the trees are hanging; they are inverted (elevator doors are facing outward, to the sides of the ship), and thus it is convenient for them to have glass walls facing the drop - and designers used this opportunity to the fullest, with all the nice decor of the library, game room etc.). Edge has a traditional setting - if you look on the deck plans, there are only 2-3 decks where you could potentially see anything outside the elevator shaft. The rest of the decks are just the stateroom decks. So in a way the Edge elevators all will be like the S class forward elevators.

You are so smart! Here is the deck plan of the hallway with the ridges seen in the construction pictures. :D

 

:D:D:D you beat me!

The only two decks that have such square windows are 4 and 5, and since on deck 4 there are no long walkways along the windows, this is it:

this hallway intrigues me. Any ideas where it might be?

 

 

art gallery - deck 5

Looking at the pictures of retreat area (pool deck), I feel like a kid who just got robbed of its toy.

The renderings in brochure have fooled a lot of people, showing the retreat pool that big... I personally laughed when saw this "art craft" for the first time - there is NO SPLASHGUARD on that drawing, more so, the shallow area surrounding the pool is way to wide = if this would have gone to reality, there would be multiple SAF (slip and fall) - the width of the shallow edge per rendering is about 5-6 ft! :'):'):')The actual "pool" is laughable, and the design of the splashguard/bench around it came out from the liners of the 60-s - see the cutouts:

The solarium pool begs to be bigger, because if there will be just lounge chairs around it (dozens - per rendering), and not much shade or greenery, it will be crammed and stuffy, like Mediterranean beach in July. Hope they would have something to make that area more inviting. A few trees perhaps...

On the account of heavily discussed location of beds in S1-S2-S3, I stand corrected - on RENDERINGS, the entrance to the suite defines the position of the bathroom door (from the corridor or from the cabin) and thus defines the positioning of the bed. That said, I looked at the deck plans and found NO S1-S2-S3 SUITES where the entrance door is shown from the longer side, as in renderings... All are shown having doorway in standard layout, from the narrow side. Time will tell, that's correct.

Yes, the reason that the beds can't be facing the ocean in these S1 and S3 layouts is because the bathroom door is where the bed would be to face the ocean. These aren't from the X website, but have been on a cruise deck plan website for over a year - maybe they are drafts that ended up in the waste basket. X only shows the bed facing the ocean pictures on their website and all of their literature and reps I have spoken to on the phone say the beds will face the ocean so we will see! It doesn't really matter to me, but it would be cool if it is true. :D

Adding to that, IF the entrance doors to S1 and S3 will be as they are currently shown, i.e. from the "bottom" in your posted layout, there is no way that the doors to the bathroom will be favoring 'sea-face" bed locations. For the bed being placed with headboard to the bathroom wall, the bathroom door has to be on the side of it, which means that it will be DIRECTLY across from the entrance doors in S1 and S3. No one in the industry would design doors in the staterooms like that, hence they had to move the bathroom doors sidewise...

I don't think we'll know until November, but these layouts (not from X site) make me wonder if at least the S2's and port/starboard S1's (the S1 layout is for the aft S1's) have a bed that faces the ocean. Who knows? I'm not betting anything on this one...:D

 

 

If you look closer at the layout as it is presented on your cutouts, it seems that ONLY S2 will have the bed facing the window. S3 and S1 (in this configuration) will have no way of placing the bed to face the sea, because the bathroom entrance - as it shown - is located on the wall against the window...

I was on a ship with the Haven earlier this year and this looks the same size. I find both to be small. You really couldn’t do much swimming in the Haven pool especially if other people were in the pool at the same time.

 

The pool size that really looks disappointing is the Solarium. It looks much smaller than the S and M class ships. I guess since they made the main pool bigger they felt they had to shrink something back. I guess it makes sense since the main pool is always busier than the Solarium except on bad weather days. I just prefer the Solarium even on sunny days as there’s a more relaxed vibe in there.

Edge brochure states the pool size for The Retreat to be 16.8 by 10.9 ft; this looks about right on that photo with worker sitting on the decked bank. Whatever rendering showed is a nice gimmick, nothing else.

Ditto on your comment about the Solarium. Spacing seems to be less adequate than with M or S ships - not only because the poo is much smaller, but also there seems to be a lot more decking available (yes, there will be more chairs but I'd rather have more pool...)

There is a weird thing about the Solariums everywhere: suffocating smell of chlorine... I am a chemist with decades of working in the lab, and even I cough every now and then, passing through these venues. I hope the Edge would be the first ship that will use nature-based antiseptics in Solarium!

One fact from the Edge brochure cracked me up big time:

" The eco-friendly, 100% recyclable Solarium roof..."

Are they gonna replace it after each cruise and throw it into the dumpster?! lololol

If no manual override is true and you have a jam up- why not just call maintenance? Why fret over this now? How are you coming up with China-made? Derogatory?

Dear Sir/Madam,

I assume - and I hope - you have never had a really serious issue with your suite/stateroom on the ship.

I did.

I am referring not to a faulty plug or burned bulb. I mean something like a flood from the bathroom that instantly fills your carpet with sewage, or something like that. Trust me, maintenance comes and goes, but sewer smell stays...

When the sash in IV glass (God forbid) gets stuck half way down, that's when the maintenance won't fix as fast as a burned bulb. Believe me.

But this is not the reason I wrote the post that obviously irritated you.

I am very excited to see the new ship, and at the same time I am curious - as any engineer would be - to see if all things are done right with it.

That's why I write about things that could have been done better, from my point of view. If it makes you feel upset, just skip my posts, I won't be offended.

As to "derogatory" statements about things made in China, I take it you don't have IKEA furniture in your home :) Good for you.

For your amusement, here's something similar to the Edge closet corner supports shown in the pictures posted earlier by Lloyd:

Check Alibaba website, there are hundreds of furniture fittings of this kind there. If you believe that for the Edge they used something made in the USA or even EU (and the same goes regarding particle boards, and actually any plastic/composite material within the ship...) - I don't know what else to say, I apologize in advance. I also apologize profoundly if I sound disrespectful - this was the last thing I wanted.

Business is business, and what is available at a fraction of a cost in China vs US/EU - believe me, the pendulum will swing to the East, Actually, I am not derogatory, I am just realistic.

I - personally - will just be extra careful not to put much weight on those shelves/walls .... And as someone just posted, I will always keep my MB ("magic box", with outlets) open - just in case.

However, when things go bad, I will be the first one to give you a hand, as an engineer, as a scientist, as a good Samaritan.

Enjoy your cruise. I know I will, even if I fret now.

@Mcampo:

Thanks for the link, it's nice to see how things are shaping up.

I found this segment to be quite interesting:

the shade seems to be adequately thick; I am wondering though if one could stop it at any given height.

Then another interesting thought came to me.

Like any other motor-driven gadget, this thing could get broken, or jammed in the rails. There is no manual override, as far as I can see in multiple pictures/videos. That's why the good old drapes would have been a good idea... because statistically among several hundred of IV staterooms there will be a fairly good chance for some of those shades to get jammed or broken. (Yes I am a cynic, especially when I look at the cabinet photos and see those cheap China-made white plastic brackets holding China-made paper-thin particle boards :'):'):')).

And while a failure of the motor operating the shade may not be a big deal, a failure of the motor operating the sash (upper part of the IV glass) WILL BE for sure, so I hope that they have a manual override at least to close the gap... and that the Edge will have a few "full size spare tires" for situations like that - back-up cabins :D

Can't wait to get onboard!

I truly hope you were not serious about this. Any leaky or wet bottle especially over the 220 Volt outlet will cause a french fried passenger:rolleyes:

...and that's why there are no (and will not be any) standard voltage outlets in the bathroom, so folks do not hold your breath on that extra socket there.

Those who are physically and (pardon me for saying that!) psychologically fit to move the bed around the room in the search of an extra outlet behind it - don't do that, because once the stateroom attendant finds your neatly taped (duck-taped) extension cord, it is a fire hazard and it will be treated as such :p;p:loudcry:

Are you sure that the 'gaps' are really worth being upset by? Especially if/when one can shut the verandah windows as added protection against noise and wind?

 

Would you normally keep your balcony doors open on a M or S class ship in X's fleet? I would think not.

 

I Am sure we will have reports, soon, about how much of an issue the gaps are...

 

Minor, I Am sure, at worst...

 

bon voyage

@Bo: I don't know why partly negative, partly sarcastic comments like the one you have replied are being considered in a way that I am upset over something ))))

I cruised a lot, and have seen many ships, so the minor details that I notice are just a matter of helping others to be aware of something that potentially could be useful or to be ready for. I am telling you Sir that on each and every of my cruises I thoroughly enjoy myself - even on that dreadful one on Infinity, when on the second day of 14 day cruise to Hawaii I have learned that I lost my job - AND MY DW AS WELL! Even then I had fun and loved the Infinity...

Small things, details, yes.

Like this one:

There is no clothes drying thread in the bathroom on S class (there is one on M class, on Millie at least); so in the Caribbean cruise it is essential to have one - for drying bathing suites after the beach. Thus, on half a dozen of Caribbean cruises on S ships I managed to improv and to tie a thread between the hook on the shower wall and shower head. When weather allowed, I use balcony chairs for drying.

On the Edge IV, there will be no chance to dry clothes after beach outside, like on the standard balcony... But since there is a rod in the shower and - I assume - the hook on the opposite wall, I will take a piece of rope to connect those two...

Sorry for my lengthy reply.

Again, I can't wait til January, when I set sail on Edge - rest assured!

In terms of the nightstands, the "curved" one seems to be an odd piece on the picture posted by Lloyd, from several angles.

This rounded cabin corner called the stand to follow the curve, but the only place this stand could be used is right there (in the cabin layout with bed next to balcony).

When the bed is next to closet, only two rectangular ones will be used, like this one:

Someone asked how this curved stand could be used in cabins with separated beds; the answer is they will swap those, using two rectangular.

While I was looking at these recent IV pictures, I found an interesting detail.

The alternate bed placement actually affects the a/c outlet positioning, and - I believe - will affect the airflow in the room.

In all cabins, the a/c outlet is positioned on the wall right next to the closet, regardless of the bed position. It means that in rooms where the bed is closer to the closet, the a/c duct will be above the bed, blowing in the wall across the room and bouncing back to bed; also - as some of you may have noticed - in humid climate the a/c duct tends to accumulate moisture and sometimes drip a bit, so the drops would fall on the bed :)

However, when the bed is at the french door, the outlet is above the couch, like here:

Not that it is a big deal, but just an observation. I am sure it is a quirk of the marriage between interior design and tech design, but as you remember, on S ships the a/c duct is located above the closet and the position of the bed is not affected by that.

To sum on, if I would choose now the IV cabin, I'd take the one with bed near the balcony.

Bigger nightstand, less airflow from a/c.

I am still dumbfounded by the french doors...

The purpose of any door is to partition rooms, spaces, for one. It usually serves the purpose by light, air, and sound insulation, right?

We pretty much established that for IV (picture above) the french doors will not separate the rest of the cabin from the light.

Now it appears that they won't be either airtight or soundproof - look at the gaps...

So what's the point of having those?

Some are swearing to bring the curtains with rods. Now duct tape seems to be appropriate to seal those edge gaps...

Thanks, Lloyd!

Interesting that when closed, the french doors have sizable gaps along the edges - you can see it clearly. This makes it not airtight - I thought that was the purpose to have them in the first place? When one sits on the balcony with the glass sash down, the cabin can be insulated from the wind - in case it is cold outside. But this appears to be not the case...

The closet space is nowhere near the M and even the S class. Basically, it is about half of a size that is on S class closet for hanging clothes, and there is almost no space on the bottom, for shoes/shoe boxes.

(Younger clientele wears jeans, sweaters and tees, these don't need hangers? That's the idea? lol)

One night stand - at the french door - is reasonably sized, but the other one is twice less in volume.

Pack light, guys. I am dusting off Levi's Strauss circa 1974.

You might contact Celebrity directly and ask. If it will not fit, perhaps Celebrity could provide approved extension cords to those who have this issue. Someplace in this thread there is a close up photo of the box.. perhaps you can eyeball it to get an idea if you think it will fit.

Kearney, what are the "approved extension cords"? Are these approved by Celebrity? :D Or are these some mason society made, with secret signs that allow them to pass through security?

(But seriously, I've never used extension cord on any of S class ships, and I am afraid I have to get one now, particularly since all my appliances/chargers do have a dreadful three prong Singapore/UK plug that eats ton of space...)

Marylander2, a published writer in Singapore, now turned sounds interesting!

" But wait! There's more!..." :cool::p

I hate autocorrect as well :) no issues, Kearney

One of the luxuries I enjoy is that I can usurp this thread while you are sleeping :)

I live in Singapore, and the time difference is exactly 12 hours, hence don't be surprised to see my posts coming in bunches!