Scratchrat

My point is that you're acting as if there's no risks normally.

When we travel, there are 1000's of things that can potentially go wrong and we can't predict them.

All we can do is find suitable insurance and hope for the best.

5 minutes ago, wowzz said:

The issue I would have is that whilst I would be getting a cruise, I couid also be getting 14 days sitting isolated in my cabin as well, should a case of CV19 be discovered.

You could have that any cruise with a case of Norovirus. 

On 7/7/2020 at 12:46 PM, Nic6318 said:

 

Hi there

 

I was just pointing out that fact, and it is hard to ignore, that many people still seem to be more than willing to actually pay for an unknown product. If that were not the case, threads like this would not be popping up every day. Would you buy anything else with so many unknowns? This is not normal.

 

I am sorry if you feel so easily insulted. I can't do anything to fix that.

 

Good luck to you, if you do get to sail. If and when you write your review, I will indeed be reading. That's what I do. There are many of us that are very hopeful for you, after all if those early sailings don't go without incident, I may not get to go on another cruise for many years. 

I don't really see it as paying for the unknown.

We're paying for a cruise. We will in fact be getting...a cruise.

Yes, we don't know how food will be served or if we need masks, but let's just assume the worst and plan for that and then any improvement is a bonus.

A socially distanced cruise with face masks is a damn site better than sitting at my work desk I tell you...

16 hours ago, Harry Peterson said:

I’d go along with that. Much more of a problem if you wear spectacles. They do steam up. Fine for a few minutes, but more than is not good.

 

There is an answer though - the right type of mask with a metal piece in enabling a close fit around the nose. The exhalation doesn’t then steam up the glasses. 

Contact lenses also help.

17 hours ago, grapau27 said:

 

Those arent the ones being retired, read the whole article.

Just now, terrierjohn said:

You forget that I am a Yorkshireman, with short arms and deep pockets.

Haha, you get the point though 😛

4 minutes ago, terrierjohn said:

But any such a comment is very much their personal decision, you just have to decide whether you feel you have similar views to them, and might therefore feel the same.

It's exactly how I feel.

"Worth" is personal.

Art is the best example.

A splash of red paint on a canvas with no real structure could to me be worthless, but if terrierjohn thinks it's amazing and pays £15,000 for it, then it's WORTH that to him.

Sounds really good! Good job Costa 🙂

I've ordered funky face masks so that not only is it effective against the virus, it's fashionable, fun and an accessory!

Exciting.

13 minutes ago, Denarius said:

Not what I would call fun.

On the question of whose bookings would be cancelled, logic dictates that these would be those who had paid the lowest fares. Operating with reduced capacity, they will need to maximise revenue per passenger. On the other hand, they could well ask for volunteers. I suspect that there may well be many people who would prefer not to cruise under these conditions!

I think it would be inside cabins first as if there is a need for people to quarantine themselves, access to balconies is essential.

15 hours ago, Vampiress88 said:

Tonights menu

 

sindhu- I know some of you don’t like this. But would you have anything from this even if it was free?

 

 

I would have 

 

soft shell crab

Tandoori half chicken

mango and passion fruit parfait

 

hubby is too busy in the garage to play my game 

Starter

Kozhi Sukka

Main Course

Navrattan Kofta Korma

Dessert

Kulfi

20 minutes ago, Harry Peterson said:

I think you might be in a fairly small minority.  I doubt the cruise industry would attract enough customers to survive on that basis.

I may well be in the minority but as people are learning more and more, ignoring minorities is silly!

Lots of people book Carnival's "cruise to nowhere" options with no ports and my family LOVE their transatlantics

10 minutes ago, wowzz said:

Changing a port is not that easy, especially when other cruise lines will be experiencing the same issue. And if a cruise only has 2 ports of call, rather than 5 or 6, many people will be disappointed.

Let them be!

I cruise for the ship and the sea, not the ports.

1 hour ago, jake 26 said:

 

I don't believe cruising will recommence until the WHO declares the end of the pandemic, which probably be March at the earliest given the massive surge in cases in Latin America.

People move around the world and spread the virus, as demonstrated this week by two women from the UK flying to NZ and testing positive, the first new cases in NZ for 24 days.

It would be folly to start cruising if there is a risk of another outbreak as on the Princess ships. It would wreck the industry.

 

WHO can make recommendations true but they aren't a law making organisation.

Individual countries can decide their own rules and the UK government have already pledged support to the cruise industry, ports are already reopening and many lines are due to set sail in the next 6 weeks.

Disney World is reopening on 11th July, Universal Studios theme park resort is already back open.

If a cruise port decides not to open due to the virus, P&O can just cancel the port/change it.

Just now, kalos said:

 

Now we're talking 

 

I love the mini fish deal meals  ..Chips ,mini fish and sausage ,covered in mushy peas and to spoil myself 

I would ask for a chip shop curry over it as well.

Sometimes I have been known to have mushy peas with chicken supreme instead of curry .

 

Can you imagine the queue's if they had a real chippy onboard P&O ships.

Now I want it 😄 Yummo!

31 minutes ago, wowzz said:

Personally I think quarantine restrictions will be lifted by then.

If they are still in force, I would have thought that the FCO advice against foreign travel would also be in force, in which case, P&O would have to cancel, as everyone's insurance policy would be invalid.

If quarantine restrictions are still in force, but the advice against travel has been lifted, it is entirely possible that the cruuse may go ahead, and you will not have the option to cancel.

My own thoughts are that the issues around quarantine and restrictions on foreign travel will have been removed by the time of your cruise. The real deciding factor will then be if the cruise lines have persuaded the government that the measures they have taken  on board are sufficient,  mean that cruising is declared  "safe".  

My theory is this:

Up until Christmas, there will be changes on the ships for sure, but they will sail.

Capacity will be cut, most likely from the cheaper cabins (evidently), self-service buffet will instead be served to you, cafeteria style. 

Water fountains will be removed/turned off with water accessible only for filling bottles.

Hand washing/sanitiser areas through out the ships.

Perspex screens to protect staff and food.

Limited capacity for tenders/shows etc and spaced out seating.

22 minutes ago, wowzz said:

Does that mean you've never eaten a take away from a fish and chip shop ! 

I'm the same,

I order battered sausage from a chip shop!

1 minute ago, mercury7289 said:

Well done indeed interesting!

well done? lol

I didn't write it, I just read it on Facebook lol

1 minute ago, mercury7289 said:

Iteresting! where did you see that!

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/plans-brits-holiday-abroad-announced-4230794

Just saw the government are hoping to allow international holidays to happen in time for summer!

Just now, wowzz said:

Indeed. I'm always amazed how people can afford to take three or 4 cruises a year, all in suites. But, if they can afford it, why not. Nothing snobby about it.

I see it as less for the younger crowd but more for the family fun kinda crowd. P&O is more subtle. It's for those who want to dine and relax, rather than party!

Just now, wowzz said:

I was always of the opinion that Carnival, in the US at least, was aimed very much at the younger party crowd, especially at Spring Break, and the pricing was geared to match that socio-economic demographic. 

 

Is that a snobby way of saying it's for people on a budget? Haha

2 minutes ago, wowzz said:

They have a different image in the US, hence the pricing structure.

It's not that in my opinion.

Their market is americans so when they have European cruises, most passengers are flying to Europe to sail. This means it's customers with more money so Carnival up the price. Also it's an exclusive limited run itinerary and they need to get the costs covered.

1 minute ago, Vampiress88 said:

oh gosh yes. I want a Disney cruise too but so priced out of that. 
 

its £1250 for 4 nights on carnival that we were looking at for May. 
 

only paid £950 for a week last year on p&o in May. 
 

don’t like to part with any more money than I need to but will have to do a cruise over there one day 

Carnival is expensive in Europe, cheap in the US. That's how i see it.

Just now, Vampiress88 said:

never been on carnival but have looked at going a few time’s from Florida. They aren’t very cheap though. 

I find them much cheaper than competitors. Depends on the cruise though I suppose.

We always wanted to a Disney Cruise but that is expensive!

Just checked mine and it covers cruises and safaris as standard.