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  1. YES! Randomness with a majority MIA.................. : /
  2. This is exactly what is so frustrating.......you and DaveOKC get prompt refunds (luck of the draw?) and we cancelled on March 11 for 25% refund and crickets ever since. There is no rhyme or reason to how HAL is managing their offers. I wouldn't believe anything they are saying at this point, or in the past for that matter.
  3. UGH! We cancelled on March 11 at 25% refund rate on an April 3 sailing. Still no refund. Today we received an email where we were offered a higher FCC with the statement that is what people are receiving now. Very confusing email since it did not discuss our refund only the FCC---and honestly, it felt very manipulative. I don't think this is a case of being overwhelmed........I think it is purposeful behavior by HAL to benefit financially at the expense of 'guests' rights under their policies............
  4. Just wondering..........can a condition be made that HAL pays the port charge for the opportunity to transfer people to a land based location in the spirit of a land/cruise combination trip? All land based services --- transfer, lodging, food, medical costs, quarantine costs and further repatriation (when Covid is proven negative in guests and crew)..........EVERYTHING would be ARRANGED AND PAID FOR BY HAL. On the humanitarian side......this would get all guests and crew off both ships while being isolated, quarantined as well as treated and HAL would be doing all the negotiating with the final approval by the Port in this case FLL. It seems that part of the problem is that HAL is no longer responsible once they discharge guests during a time of crisis.........this would keep them in the game until people are as 'whole' as possible. Am I making sense? Not sure I'm describing this clearly other than to say..........the cruise is now a Land/Cruise combo compliments of HAL. I wish it was a pleasure combo, but this addresses a lot of the needs and puts the responsibility on HAL to "do the right thing".............
  5. All the "new" hospitals are simply replacing the hospital beds being used for Covid in existing hospitals---they are not exposing anyone that doesn't need to be in the area to this virus. The field hospitals will serve regular services for ongoing medical needs (ER's, heart attacks, accidents, etc......) all elective procedures have been cancelled/postponed. My regular appt with a doctor was a phone call today..........I suspect Texas does not have the same procedures in place...............
  6. Stay safe in Chicago!! : )
  7. We feel your pain and are in the same blinking boat. To us it seems that a cancellation on a cruise that is later cancelled by HAL is basically a change in the contract since they did not sail. Our cancellation was based on them actually sailing......which they chose not to do. I know they take great joy in blaming the 'guest' but this is my POV and reflects poorly on HAL's business practices.
  8. I agree with the "common sense" of your comments...........However, I believe HAL bears the brunt of responsibility for these catastrophe's.........Any business owes something to it's consumers.......in these cases HAL made the decision to continue business as usual until March 13 which was a profit motive, not a consumer maintenance motive.....and that decision is affecting passengers. Some of them have lost their live's........that's solely on HAL. Also, we made the decision not to go on our cruise when we were told by HAL it was going to happen. 24 hours later they cancelled all cruises. It's very apparent to us that HAL has manipulated their cruise information to consumers.....and continues to do so at this time. It's not only unethical........it's far worse. Passengers, staff and crew get all my sympathy.......corporate gets all the responsibility for this mess. Also just saw the 'notice' to Rotterdam staff...........I'll say it again.....HAL corporate gets all responsibility for anything that happens on that ship. One has to wonder if they have clearance to get off in the NW? Seattle is overwhelmed already.....I can't imagine Astoria or Portland being "open" either..........
  9. My understanding is the hospital ships will only treat non Covid patients.......they will provide back up for routine medical needs to allow existing medical beds on land to be used for Covid patients.
  10. At this point we are looking at our cruise payment in full, floating away in their ocean of debt, despite all their guess-timate's for refunds or FCC's. Hal has lost all credibility................
  11. Of course, everyone wishes we were not fighting this battle........it's not "fun", it's not normal, it requires us all to dig deeper than many have been challenged in their entire lifetime. To believe things would be better if we were not fighting this and just let people die.............is a sad commentary on the author. I disagree.........there are no guarantee's this virus will bow down. Holding our breath and hoping all will pass is not an option. You can die that way too..............
  12. WHY Covid-19 IS NOT "LIKE THE FLU"................read and repeat until it's understood! This is from an immunologist at Johns Hopkins University: Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand... It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics. Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot. Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off. Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be.. H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too. Fast forward. Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery” This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it. And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs.. That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery! And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine. We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu. Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation... And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next. Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not sexy right now.
  13. How many people that are saying things will turn around and stock cannot possibly LOSE $$$ if you wait long enough?? Have any of you experienced stock loss such as Washington Mutual stock and the subsequent buy up by Chase............... stockholders were left with Bubkiss. (spelling, but you know what I'm saying..............) and Chase purchased holdings for pennies on the dollar.........it was a thrashing for stockholders so while not common, it does happen and CCL appears to be tee'd up for such action given the disparity between what they say on any given day....................... IMO
  14. Agree with the observation above............ As far as cruise lines, I believe this will not be the only bio threat we face going forward. Covid-19 and Ebola both jumped to humans after being in their mammals for who knows how long. With that in mind I would feel reassured if the cruise lines refit/rebuild their ventilation systems during the downtime. Make every cabin a safe zone with HEPA filtration for all air exchanged---heating and cooling. Make sure all mold and other contaminates have been removed (HVAC) and are part of routine cleaning as in rooms. And while they're at it, they may as well deep clean all rooms between occupants....rather than a few hours turn around (which is profit driven, not passenger driven).........have 24 hours to do a thorough job. Flame on........................... : /
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