TNCruzer56

except to go diving???

Visited Bonaire on my last cruise and it is officially now my favorite... I cannot imagine anything else topping Bonaire ;)

Just got an email from CCL indicating the change to Bonaire.

We loved Curacao.

What is so special about Bonaire? TIA

They are no longer looking for the same guest. One wants to attract guests with the wow factor and charge more for it. The other one wants to attract guests with a more budget minded experience and by charging less for it. And both approaches are successful in their own way.

Holly Sh__ In 10 years of following this dopey thread, I have never read a more lucid, thought-out and spot-on comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IMHO, they used to be more direct competitors back when Royal launched the Sovereign and Vision class, and Carnival launched the Fantasy class. But today, these cruise lines are on diverging paths. Their newest ships couldn't be any more different. The regions of the world they cover, their marketing, itineraries, quality and quantity of onboard entertainment, loyalty programs, kids programs and facilities, alternative dining venues, suites and suite perks, are all very different these days.

 

Yes, there are some markets where they overlap (most notably in the Caribbean and the Bahamas), but Royal's global reach is vastly different than Carnival's more domestic reach (and before someone mentions the other cruise lines under Carnival CORP, I'm limiting my observations to Carnival Cruise Lines versus Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines individually).

 

They are no longer looking for the same guest. One wants to attract guests with the wow factor and charge more for it. The other one wants to attract guests by charging less.

 

 

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Could not agree more. We did Allure OS after 15 CCL cruzes. The food was close to un-edible but the entertainment blew CCL out of the water. Live music everywhere, production #`s~Spectacular! We paid for Jonnie Rockets and it was not even close to Guys. The buffet burgs would choke a hungry mule.

So decide what YOU want!

We, like you, have cruised Carnival exclusively the last 15 times. I did want to try the Allure because of all the toys aboard and see for myself if that big monster really floats.

Agreed, that the entertainment blows away CCL. There`s also usually some live music playing somewhere.

Two things we did not enjoy. The mere size of the boat makes you feel like you`re (in) a hotel, not (on) a ship.

The buffet food and even MDR food was mediocre to terrible. 1st time I ever had a ¼” thick prime rib.

The NHL would turn down the regular burgers as being too hard. We did Jonnie Rockets (upcharge) and got a pretty good burg(not even close to Guys though!).

Everybody should try it once…waverider, zipline, carousel and 1st class shows. The interactive mapfinder was great for getting where you wished to go.

BTW, we`ve sailed both the Breeze and Dream and this thing felt twice as big! JMHO

It has been reported on here. During a galley tour the list was seen posted on a bulletin board. Another reported that while walking past the cabin stewarts cart in the hallway the list was in plain sight.

I think you`re referring to a Carnival post:

1st time RCI cruising. On Carnival, we always carry a clear bag with 2 bottles of wine, a 2 liter bottle of C.F. Diet Pepsi and 2-3 bottles of water. They once shook the water, but normally just run it through.

We`ll be on the Allure out of FLL.

Can we expect any problems with the soda and H2O? Thanks in advance!

Bring your defib with you and enjoy!:

CCL did not close at $32.88; it was almost $36.

Last/Change / % ChangeDividend YieldVolume

35.88 up 0.13..... 0.36%.... 2.80%...... 3,888,044

This thing is a dog scratchin fleas an has been for a few years. Wait till the Costa refloat #s come out...........Yikes:

Buy the airlines right now and forget about the stinkin Ben of OBC. Take some real $$$

I give up!

I was trying to advise all, that this is not a game of skill, but a rigged machine that has calculated pay-outs.

If you watch the players...they are leaning left or right, up & down...really trying to line the key up to the hole. To me, they are believing in skill and patience.

Thought I was helping my fellow cruzers $$$ by exposing this scam.

It's a casino game, they set the payout just like they do on slot machines and video poker. Those machines are all adjustable. there is no skill in a slot machine, you can put in $1000,or $1 if it's ready to pay out it will

The point that you are missing is that: The machine is set up like a skill/hand/eye coordination game when, in fact it`s a #s racket.

We all know the odds of the slots (pretty poor)

yes, included. I like the potato sticks at the condiment bar :)

Have to agree-A great burg-artery clogging yes-but, you`re on vaca!

Skip the fries (you could lube the joints on a 57 chevy with the grease from these) and get the PS as michelle said above. JMHO!

An earlier thread today started me checking out this machine. I found some interesting facts.

While CC is supposed to be happy and positive, I`m compelled to shout out a WARNING that the odds of winning at this:

Are VERY SLIM to None:

The Sega Key Master game is rigged. Paul Hull posted the manual on Google+ that, if you take a few minutes to read and understand, makes it very clear how the system is set up for you to fail.

There are two key settings on this machine that determine how the game is rigged. The first is called "compulsory upper deviation." The default setting is 1.6 mm. I believe this means that the key will purposefully go anywhere between 1.6mm higher and 1.6 mm lower than where you tell it to go.

The second setting is called "Payout rate," a unique value for each line of prizes. The default value here is 1 prize/700 credits. This means that the machine is set to ensure only 1/700 plays is a winner.

Link to Paul Hull's post:

https://plus.google.com/108982867061...ts/9boMUQjxyaw

Link to Key Master manual:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3Sm...hl=en_US&pli=1

You have at BEST 1 in 700 chances of winning the 1st, 2nd or 3rd rows

Look at the machines control panel settings:

Be fun to find the control panel and set it to pay out 1 in every 5 times

As opposed to slot machines, where one goes into the play process knowing that the machine is programmed to pay out x number of times, The Key Master makes one think it is hand eye coordination.

A quick search found this:

The Sega Key Master game is rigged. Paul Hull posted the manual on Google+ that, if you take a few minutes to read and understand, makes it very clear how the system is set up for you to fail.

There are two key settings on this machine that determine how the game is rigged. The first is called "compulsory upper deviation." The default setting is 1.6 mm. I believe this means that the key will purposefully go anywhere between 1.6mm higher and 1.6 mm lower than where you tell it to go.

The second setting is called "Payout rate," a unique value for each line of prizes. The default value here is 1 prize/700 credits. This means that the machine is set to ensure only 1/700 plays is a winner.

Link to Paul Hull's post:

Link to Key Master manual:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3SmqkZkICgvOGU5NjQ0MDktMmEyNy00MjE5LWFlNzYtOTMxNGY0M2ZlNjE1/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1

I watched people pour dollar bills in for a combined 2-3 hours out of sick fascination. From the most agile young adult to veterans, I`ve Never seen anybody win.

It`s a carny rip off. JMHO

While we enjoyed the Dream and Breeze, it always seemed to have that crowded feel. Now they`re gonna add more pax-No thanks...

Did a Cove Balc on The Dream and just back from the Breeze. Lov em, but did hear from neighbors that you do NOT want to be under the galley. 2272 had no lifeboats overhead to maybe 2280-no further back until stern of the galley. Same on starboard.

2272 was fantastic

Great place to visit, just wish that the ship left later so we had more time.

No reason to stay there longer when you can get 3 more hours in at...Nassau

The mods might feel that this belongs on the destination page, but I`d like to get as much info out on this Best Stop in The Wilde Caribe. Like all ports we had backpacks towels, mutiple cameras shoes, masks fins, snorkel, change of clothes etc.

To Maxify you experience here, May I suggest only taking

waterwallet/id & cash

lube up on ship

wear good pair of watershoes

decent camera in pouch or waterproof

THAT`s ALL!

I wish sombody told me this before.

We had way too much junk and missed out on GREAT lit`l spots.

This may be the best stop ever and take as lit`l as possible for MAX FUN-JMHO.