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Correct, and from what I see some of the itineraries are dull,dull,dull, and I certainly don't think they will attract the so called sophisticated travellers they are aimed at.
Agreed. Nice choice of word 'sophisticated' - "having, revealing, or involving a great deal of worldly experience and knowledge of fashion and culture.". The word as per the Google dictionary.
We are only in our fourth year of cruising but we have travelled a lot on land before realising the advantages of the former. Already we are starting to struggle to find new places to experience by ship and which are not excessively demanding for fit but elderly people.
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Just disembarked from the Wind yesterday.
My Silversea reservation said "Open-Seating Dining Options - dine when and with whomever you please"
True but not the flexibility we have experienced in the past. The Grill and the Terrazza now have to be pre-booked. I can see the advantage over first come first served as both have limited capacity.
However, you can no longer expect to turn up at the MDR and get a solus table for two instantly. In their defence the wait is never too long - but it does need noting.
On Amazara and Seabourn the equivalent of the Terrazza has been themed evenings and these we prefer. As Londoners, who (a) holiday in Italy and (b have a surfeit of Italian restaurants we find the Americanised Italian food in the Terrazza boring. Themed evenings with food from different cultures work better for us.
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It’s interesting looking at the Seabourn final docs, the elegant photos of the “well to do” in their white dress shirts, sleeved rolled up and the dresses that would be fit in at the spring racing carnival. Then in the background are the t-shirt and shorts of those that perhaps are not paid models!
Three cheers for what Seabourn are seeking to achieve. The market for the "t-shirt and short obsessed" is well supplied. There may not be many people around these days who love a touch of elegance - but thank goodness there are still businesses providing those environments. Setting the example are the Seabourn crew who, with all their changes of outfit, manage to look smart and stylish - with pride.
But let's not get into one of those I'm not going to be told what to wear flames. Leave your lycra for the gym and feel cool and comfortable in the gear the western Mediterranians wear. Why you may even get mistaken for a native!
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Visiting the western Med in August where it will be delightfully hot.
Would a gym polyester shirt (which also acts as a sunblock); shorts and compression Lycra leggings stand out too much? Or be appropriate? It would otherwise be cool and practical and stop us getting sunburnt
In the western Med the clothes would stand out as it is not the way the locals dress to be cool. They tend to wear loose fitting and absorbent clothing and you have chosen the total opposite. If your choice is the habit of a lifetime why not take the holiday as a chance to try what the people in the west Med wear? You might even find it is better!
But if you are reluctant to change be prepared for some odd looks - and certainly in the more conservative places mentioned by the previous poster.
Tony - EU citizen for the moment anyway.
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Don't you love it when some posters keep citing the rules, but then make up their own ones.
Wrong poster notjaded. I was not citing a rule but citing how a gentleman would wear that style of shirt.
Surely the polo shirt poster has the message now?
Move on time?
Tony
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If in actual casual-night, recent SB cruises half the MDR is polo shirts/nice hawaiian/silk short sleeve shirts then yes i'd feel comfortable wearing same, regardless of the text of the dress code.
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If in actual casual-night, recent SB cruises the entire MDR is is suit-slacks and a starched long-sleeved collared dress shirt (essentially a nice suit with no tie and jacket optional) - then i'd like to know that as well.
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Hawaiian style short sleeve shirts
I wasn't commenting on their common useage.
Tony
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Not sure that's local authorities trying to push business but environmental concerns that Seabourn has addressed because the zodiac tours appear to be active this year.....
Again I need confirmation from someone who was on the cruise last year but my recollection is that the zodiacs were in the tour brochure and the announcement about the change was in our room when we boarded..
Tony
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Technically only #2 would be acceptable in MDR for non-formal nights,
But pressed and tucked in.
, but would the others be out of place or commonly seen also? Out of place in the MDR.
Likewise short sleeves are the wrong look for the MDR.
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I seem to remember that last year (2017) the local authorities were clamping down on the zodiac trips to force business to the catamarin operators. Someone hinted this a little earlier in the thread.
This seems pretty relevant to this discussion IMHO.
Tony
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You have my sympathy. 960 expert opinions to wade through. "Light touch paper and stand back" was the instruction on fireworks in the days kids could buy them.
Your polo shirt would not look out of place in the brasserie (whatever it is called these days) or at the grill on the deck. You would look out of place in the MDR or whatever speciality fine-dining restaurants there are on your vessel. I am not saying you would be turned away..
Polo neck sweaters, which I assume are not what you are suggesting, are different and look more in keeping with what others are wearing in the smarter dining areas.
Tony - a Brit for reference.
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In four years of cruising I have never seen any marina deployed as you see in the brochures.
On the Seabourn caviar in the surf days they sometimes take some of the kit to the beach. However it will be weather dependent. The first one we did could not start until lunchtime because of storms. The second had to be abandonned after lunch so we could get back the boat safely.
Again. Ignore the repeated pictures of flat calm sandy bays in the brochures. Yes it can be like that - sometimes.
Tony
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We did the trip last year.
http://www.tonygamble.uk/Alaska_1/index.html
http://www.tonygamble.uk/Alaska_2/index.html
Ask if the shots prompt any questions.
Generally we found whale watching a waste of (our) time as we did not see many.
The Grizzly Bear trip we did not do (in error) and it was the one that most people raved about.
We did not do the helicopter trips, but only because they are a bit above our price bracket.
Final comment. Despite my images do not assume you will get good weather. Look at the first two shots in my second folder. On some cruises it is like that every day!
Tony
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We did the trip this time last year. Here are two folders of pictures. The second ends with trips to SaltSpring Island and Whistler.
http://www.tonygamble.uk/Alaska_1/index.html
http://www.tonygamble.uk/Alaska_2/index.html
I don't remember any must-do trips. Probably the folk who went out on kayaks got more memorable experiences than us less adventurous folk on catmarans.
You can see how few whales we got to watch. All the crew on these excursions were enthusiastic and informative. Maybe we were just unlucky in seeing so little.
We did not do the Grizzly Bear trip (nothing more than our error) and from reports that is a must-do.
Despite what you see on my photographs reports from people on cruises before and after hours experienced somewhat grim cloudy weather. After one such day we were blessed with non stop sunshine - but we were told that was quite unusual.
If you see anything in my photos that interests you and I will see if we can remember which trip it relates to. As a totality the cruise was brilliant - but obsessive whale watchers might feel they were given short measure.
Tony and Christine - Fulham London
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In my experience the ones in the cabins are pretty low standard.
If having a pair is important you are far better off buying a small pair that you can also put in your pocket to take ashore. They are not expensive and even less so if you buy once used. However I would advise buying from a shop where you can test them. Not all suit every taste.
Tony
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Isklaar,
I don't think you are misunderstaning anything now I see your later posts.
Tony
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And what is confusing about casual elegant - if that was the poster's problem.
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What is confusing to you then?
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Sorry. One hour on that sounds a bit unkind to the poster who was too exhausted to change. I apologise. I was not intending to be rude.
But my point is that indoors you'd not notice any difference when comparing with a hot weather cruise. And outdoors my experience is that it only needs one request for an extra table to be set up and it will happen.
Looking back on our trip I do remember a couple that wore their freebie Seabourn overjackets for breakfast and lunch indoors - and everywhere else until 6.00 pm. We wondered if someone had told them they were compulsary !! NO, they did not wear them for dinner in the MDR !!
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Do people dress as nicely for dinner on an Alaska cruise as they do for a Mediterranean cruise, for instance?
Yes. We were on the trip this time last year and there was no difference to the Seabourn cruises we have taken in hot climates.
In any case the rooms are the same temperature and for those few going out in kayacs and zodiacs it is a relief to change into different clothes no matter how exhausted they feel.
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In my experience the success of such a move, as in the above, is to get the message across by one of the staff and not to do it yourself as a guest.
Most people will be prepared to toe the line. We have it at our local Club where the use of cellphones is forbidden. If I told someone they were breaking the rules I would expect to get an insult back and be told it was none of my business. If one of our porters tells them they accept the censure without challenge.
Yes, you will find a few of the "I am not going to be told what to wear" brigade on Cruise Critic but on a cruise most dress inappropriately out of ignorance. That includes those who mooch around in their dressing gowns. Ignorance rather than a misconceived desire to prove a point.
Tony
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There's far more ado about the dress codes on these boards than you'll ever see on the ship.
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27 posts in twelve hours - about not changing into formal clothes to go to and from the gym!
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Thanks Silver,
I'll read what they can do.
Tony
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Well said, Tarwood.
I hope I bump into you on one of our cruises.
When I retired I changed the heading on the simple spreadsheet I maintain from Holidays to Travel. We like our Travel to be as varied as our aging limbs permit.
I look to systems like the Cruise Critic forums for ideas. If you want to precipiate a rant make a post on the Dress Code topic.
You are right about how boring it would be if all vessels were the same.
Well said.
Tony - London UK
Counting down to the Wind!
in Silversea
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Ditto. Though good the Food and Beverage was not flawless. It would have been re-assuring to have a chance to chat rathr than rely on the 'comments' forms.
A lovely trip blessed by unusually lovely weather - except Bergen.
Tony and Christine