Another Craps Question???

How much money do I have to lay to have a chance in the game?

 

When I was just starting and had no clue and just trying my luck, I was only laying $50. Some times I stayed in the game for a while and made some money, other times I went down in flames.

 

On average, if your playing minimum bets, how much do you lay out to get in the game? Thanks

You can start with the minimum...if you're losing, you'll lose...no matter HOW much money you put up!

If you're on a winning streak, you can up the bet, but there's no guarantee you'll stay on that streak....that's why it's called "gambling"!

How much money do I have to lay to have a chance in the game?

 

When I was just starting and had no clue and just trying my luck, I was only laying $50. Some times I stayed in the game for a while and made some money, other times I went down in flames.

 

On average, if your playing minimum bets, how much do you lay out to get in the game? Thanks

You need to start with at least 30 times your average bet to give yourself a chance

11 years as a craps dealer in Las Vegas. There is NO one correct answer to this question. I have seen people start with $10 and walk away with $1,000 and I have seen people start with $1,000 and walk away with $10.

 

Played today, bought in $100, bet $5 on pass line and $26 across on a point of 6. Turned my bets off after the shooter made two points and then she 7'ed out. Next shooter made a few points and I turned my bets off when they changed sticks, 3 rolls later shooter 7'ed out. I got the dice and rolled 6 or 7 times before I 7'ed out. Left with $260 after tipping dealers. I could have bought in for $40 and not needed all of this.

 

$100 on a $5 minimum table will allow you to bet on 3 bad shooters or several mediocre shooters.

 

Great thing about Craps is if you only win half your bets, you'll make $$.

11 years as a craps dealer in Las Vegas. There is NO one correct answer to this question. I have seen people start with $10 and walk away with $1,000 and I have seen people start with $1,000 and walk away with $10.

 

Played today, bought in $100, bet $5 on pass line and $26 across on a point of 6. Turned my bets off after the shooter made two points and then she 7'ed out. Next shooter made a few points and I turned my bets off when they changed sticks, 3 rolls later shooter 7'ed out. I got the dice and rolled 6 or 7 times before I 7'ed out. Left with $260 after tipping dealers. I could have bought in for $40 and not needed all of this.

 

$100 on a $5 minimum table will allow you to bet on 3 bad shooters or several mediocre shooters.

 

Great thing about Craps is if you only win half your bets, you'll make $$.

A bankroll that only allows you to bet on 3 bad shooters or several mediocre shooters, will not give you a chance to survive long enough to win unless the first few shooters have good rolls. I've played for over 30 years and have seen the dice go around the table with no shooter rolling more than 4 rolls many many times more than I have seen monster or even decent rolls.

Yea, if you walk up to hot table $10 might win you some money.I saw a lady buy in with $80 and walk away with well over $5,000, but this is rare. have a big enough bankroll to ride out the bad shooters if you want to win

You need to start with at least 30 times your average bet to give yourself a chance

So, if I plan on betting $26 or $27 across with $5 on the pass line and $10 odds I need to show up at the table with $1260??? No thanks, I'll stick with my $100 and $200 buy-ins and take my chances on 3-6 shooters. If one of them can't roll the dice 10-15 times it's not going to happen for me.

 

 

The ONLY good part about hitting your head against a wall is stopping.

 

You can double your bankroll in 6 rolls with the following system:

 

$12 on the 6 and 8, $10 on the 5 and $6 in the field. Unless all 6 rolls are in the field and none are a 2 or 12 you'll double your money in 6 rolls. This is for a $40 bankroll, the units can be multiplied to fit any size bankroll you choose. For a $1,000 bankroll use $300 each on the 6 and 8, $250 on the 5 and $150 in the field.

So, if I plan on betting $26 or $27 across with $5 on the pass line and $10 odds I need to show up at the table with $1260??? No thanks, I'll stick with my $100 and $200 buy-ins and take my chances on 3-6 shooters. If one of them can't roll the dice 10-15 times it's not going to happen for me.

 

 

The ONLY good part about hitting your head against a wall is stopping.

 

You can double your bankroll in 6 rolls with the following system:

 

$12 on the 6 and 8, $10 on the 5 and $6 in the field. Unless all 6 rolls are in the field and none are a 2 or 12 you'll double your money in 6 rolls. This is for a $40 bankroll, the units can be multiplied to fit any size bankroll you choose. For a $1,000 bankroll use $300 each on the 6 and 8, $250 on the 5 and $150 in the field.

What happens if a second roll 7 occurs? $40 loss....No collections:rolleyes:

MrCo9

What's the advantage of the $6 bet on the field over a $5 bet ?

thanks.

What happens if a second roll 7 occurs? $40 loss....No collections:rolleyes:

Exactly. the 7 on a second or even third roll and you're a loser.

MrCo9

What's the advantage of the $6 bet on the field over a $5 bet ?

thanks.

$1 more each time a field number rolls and $1 less every time the 5, 6 or 8 rolls. I use $6 as you are using ALL of the $40.

 

As for the 7 rolling, yeah, you lose, just like any other system. Unless you're on the Don't Pass and the Come, then you win both places on a second roll 7.

 

I'm not saying that you're guaranteed to win with that system, but if you have another system where you double your bankroll in 6 rolls or less, I'd LOVE to hear about it.

$1 more each time a field number rolls and $1 less every time the 5, 6 or 8 rolls. I use $6 as you are using ALL of the $40.

 

As for the 7 rolling, yeah, you lose, just like any other system. Unless you're on the Don't Pass and the Come, then you win both places on a second roll 7.

 

I'm not saying that you're guaranteed to win with that system, but if you have another system where you double your bankroll in 6 rolls or less, I'd LOVE to hear about it.

simply put, there is no system that can overcome the house edge.

Thanks for the non-answer.

Thanks for the non-answer.

You're welcome. It WAS an answer. Your question "if you have another system where you double your bankroll in six rolls or less I'd LOVE to hear about it".

Craps is a great casino game. It is unique in that you can lower the house's advantage more that any other casino game IF you know how to bet making "Free Odds" bets. I would advise anyone who is intrigued by Craps to buy one of the many available books on the subject. One you understand a few SIMPLE principles, you will be able to play wisely and enjoy the game much more.

You're welcome. It WAS an answer. Your question "if you have another system where you double your bankroll in six rolls or less I'd LOVE to hear about it".

No, it was not an answer and I didn't ask a question. A question is followed by one of these (?). Mine was a stamement, it was followed by a (.) Are you sure you know how to play craps?

The best craps book I read was something called Budget Gambling. The author recommended starting with $45, if you lose twice in a row, you are out (walking away with $15). If you win, there is an escalator on how you increase your bet (playing with the casino's money). I have modified that system to between $60 to $80. with that system, I have had some big nights in the casino, and other nights where I walked away with my shirt. On the last cruise (with single odds), I was up at the table, it suddenly went cold, I went back to conservative play calling and went with the two in a row I am out play. I then watched the table for a little longer. If I would have continued playing, I would have lost my entire bankroll with how cold the table got. Everyone left the table in the next 10-15 minutes because of the cold streak.

 

There are a number of theories about treating the game as grinding it out while others will say its a control game with discipline betting. IMHO, craps is no different than any other part of your life, you got to do what you feel comfortable with.

MrCo9

Why the 5 and not the 9 ????? Or, the 5 and 9 ?????:confused:

A couple of comments about some of the things I've been seeing in this thread.

 

One: IIRC, the Captain;s famous 5-count strategy is based on the fact that in the first 5 throws by a player coming out, 7 will appear 57% of the time (straight probability calculation)! So, sure you'll double your money in six throws, but you'll only get that far in 43% of the comeouts. In other words, the odds are 4-3 against getting as far as five rolls without sevening out, let alone six. (Sigh.)

 

Two: The concept of "playing with their money" is balderdash! True, it's money you didn't have when you walked in, but once you win it, it is YOUR oney. Actually, I once read somewhere (don't remember where) that when the chips are on the table, you should look at them as NOBODY's money - they become yours when you pick tthem up and leave! Look, I play a progressive betting strategy in Blackjack not because after two wins it is THEIR money, but because Blackjack is a streaky game (the cards DO have a small memory in a single deck game - whether or not you are counting them, and a plus deck is in your favor!)

 

Both these points are my opinion.

 

Shalom. Andy.

No, it was not an answer and I didn't ask a question. A question is followed by one of these (?). Mine was a stamement, it was followed by a (.) Are you sure you know how to play craps?

apparently your knowledge of grammar does not not equal your knowledge of craps." if you know a system that doubles your bankroll in six rolls or less I'd love to hear about it " is an INDERECT QUESTION, not needing a ? And yes I Know how to play craps, but I don't waste my time with minimum bets. I play to win or lose big. No doubt I tip more than you bet.

MrCo9

Why the 5 and not the 9 ????? Or, the 5 and 9 ?????:confused:

Because the 9 is in the field and the 5 is not. What that system you get paid on any roll that is not a 7. The numbers that are not in the field are the 5, 6, 7 and 8. So, if you bet on the 5, 6 and 8 and put less in the field than what you get paid when those numbers roll you make money on every roll that is not a 7. The trick is to get 6 rolls without the 7 rolling.

 

Remember at Craps, you can turn your bets off at anytime. This is done by telling the dealer that your bets are off. Everyone craps player has their own superstion as to when the 7 is going to roll. Common ones are when a new player buys in while there is a point. A craps number rolling. The coctail waitress coming around. A craps number rolling. All sorts of things bring out the evil 7. The only thing I know of that brings it out EVERY time is the top of one die matching the bottom of the other ;)

apparently your knowledge of grammar does not not equal your knowledge of craps." if you know a system that doubles your bankroll in six rolls or less I'd love to hear about it " is an INDERECT QUESTION, not needing a ? And yes I Know how to play craps, but I don't waste my time with minimum bets. I play to win or lose big. No doubt I tip more than you bet.

You're still not providing any insight other than to your personality and I'm not interested in that.

 

Nor are you providing any insight to a system that can help anyone win any $$.

 

As for my betting style, I was providing the $40 version of the Iron Cross as an example that can be played. When I bet it, multiply the amounts to equal $200-$500 in action and that is how I play. But to tell a newbie to place the 6 and 8 for $60 or $150 and they will NEVER play craps.

 

If you still think you tip more than I bet, please come play on my tables anytime. I can be found at Sam's Town.

A couple of comments about some of the things I've been seeing in this thread.

 

One: IIRC, the Captain;s famous 5-count strategy is based on the fact that in the first 5 throws by a player coming out, 7 will appear 57% of the time (straight probability calculation)! So, sure you'll double your money in six throws, but you'll only get that far in 43% of the comeouts. In other words, the odds are 4-3 against getting as far as five rolls without sevening out, let alone six. (Sigh.)

 

Two: The concept of "playing with their money" is balderdash! True, it's money you didn't have when you walked in, but once you win it, it is YOUR oney. Actually, I once read somewhere (don't remember where) that when the chips are on the table, you should look at them as NOBODY's money - they become yours when you pick tthem up and leave! Look, I play a progressive betting strategy in Blackjack not because after two wins it is THEIR money, but because Blackjack is a streaky game (the cards DO have a small memory in a single deck game - whether or not you are counting them, and a plus deck is in your favor!)

 

Both these points are my opinion.

 

Shalom. Andy.

 

I completely agree. The minute I buy in to a game I consider myself down that amount. I used this strategy in poker too and it really helped my game. I stopped thinking about it as money and instead viewed them as little clay chips with numbers on them. That allowed me to bet and play smarter because I was no longer afraid of "losing money"

You're still not providing any insight other than to your personality and I'm not interested in that.

 

Nor are you providing any insight to a system that can help anyone win any $$.

 

As for my betting style, I was providing the $40 version of the Iron Cross as an example that can be played. When I bet it, multiply the amounts to equal $200-$500 in action and that is how I play. But to tell a newbie to place the 6 and 8 for $60 or $150 and they will NEVER play craps.

 

If you still think you tip more than I bet, please come play on my tables anytime. I can be found at Sam's Town.

 

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO MrCo9: Do you play at Sam's Town in Las Vegas? It is one of the nicer places I played at. They also have very good food there. I loved to go there when I lived in Las Vegas.

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO MrCo9: Do you play at Sam's Town in Las Vegas? It is one of the nicer places I played at. They also have very good food there. I loved to go there when I lived in Las Vegas.

No, I work there. Try and keep up, ok? ;)

What a nice change, it's not me fighting with people :D