southwestie Posted November 9, 2011 #1 Share Posted November 9, 2011 November 10th see,s QM2 sail to New york , British registered for the last time Bon Voyage, I will still sail on her what ever happens:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby1119 Posted November 9, 2011 #2 Share Posted November 9, 2011 November 10th see,s QM2 sail to New york , British registered for the last time Bon Voyage, I will still sail on her what ever happens:) I am sailing January 3rd and was hoping that the re-flagging didn't happen until after the world cruise. While the re-flagging was inevitable in terms of the company's obligation to turn the highest profits possible, I lament the loss of the British registry, especially for the line's flagship, and all that goes with it. I always thought there was something special about RMS rather than MV. Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgeoftheworld Posted November 9, 2011 #3 Share Posted November 9, 2011 souvenirs! are you after one of those floaty-ring things to stick on the wall at home? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacia Posted November 9, 2011 #4 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Rob, don't forget to mail postcards from the ship...ask for the ship's postmark. Send a few to yourself too ;) A bitter-sweet voyage - but nonetheless, Bon Voyage! Cheers, -Salacia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwestie Posted November 9, 2011 Author #5 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Sadly I wont be on this one, we have a months trip to Australia not far away. I would love a ring, maybe I shall ask someone one board to get me one, although as I understand they are to painted over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missfrankiecat Posted November 9, 2011 #6 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I'll be there. Very sad about the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwestie Posted November 9, 2011 Author #7 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I'll be there. Very sad about the change. Bon Voyage, have a wonderful time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missfrankiecat Posted November 9, 2011 #8 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Bon Voyage, have a wonderful time Thank you. I surely will. Hope the doggies are well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitemarsh Posted November 9, 2011 #9 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I always thought there was something special about RMS rather than MV. Bobby Yes, so did I. That is a big loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwestie Posted November 9, 2011 Author #10 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I am sailing January 3rd and was hoping that the re-flagging didn't happen until after the world cruise. While the re-flagging was inevitable in terms of the company's obligation to turn the highest profits possible, I lament the loss of the British registry, especially for the line's flagship, and all that goes with it. I always thought there was something special about RMS rather than MV. Bobby I agree it is sad, but will the letters RMS or MV make any difference in the long run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby1119 Posted November 9, 2011 #11 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I agree it is sad, but will the letters RMS or MV make any difference in the long run It has the same feel as a demotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted November 9, 2011 #12 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I agree it is sad, but will the letters RMS or MV make any difference in the long run Only if "tradition" or "heritage" is part of your proposition.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwestie Posted November 9, 2011 Author #13 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I at one time would have said yes it was important to me, now as I get older and as I see so much change in the world I dont know that I am so worried, I love Cunard, QM2 and QE and QV, I dont see that what they offer to me or any other passenger will change just because they are re registering the ships. When I board the ship it will the same, in fact after the refit of QM2 it will I think be better, so better beds, carpets, etc will outshine the RMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacia Posted November 10, 2011 #14 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I agree it is sad, but will the letters RMS or MV make any difference in the long run What? Was that the sound of Samuel Cunard turning over in his grave?:eek: I guess only time will tell if it makes any difference or not, but in the meantime, my sympathy goes out to the staff of Cunard ships who were most immediately effected by this sudden change of registry. What a shame that the big rush to "offer weddings at sea" couldn't have been better handled. -S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwestie Posted November 10, 2011 Author #15 Share Posted November 10, 2011 What? Was that the sound of Samuel Cunard turning over in his grave?:eek: I guess only time will tell if it makes any difference or not, but in the meantime, my sympathy goes out to the staff of Cunard ships who were most immediately effected by this sudden change of registry. What a shame that the big rush to "offer weddings at sea" couldn't have been better handled. -S I agree with you, but what difference will it make to passengers who sail in the future, what will they find different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacia Posted November 10, 2011 #16 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I agree with you, but what difference will it make to passengers who sail in the future, what will they find different Rob, that is the 50 Million Dollar question! But I think all (well, most of us anyway) are hoping for the best. Cheers, -S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick&Simon Posted November 10, 2011 #17 Share Posted November 10, 2011 So I guess this will be the last voyage of a British Registered Cunard vessel. Somehow I don't think I will get back to my room to find a certificate or souvenir on the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacia Posted November 10, 2011 #18 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I don't think the 10November Crossing is the last voyage QM2 voyage under British Registry, but please correct me if I am mistaken. Thanks. -S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwestie Posted November 10, 2011 Author #19 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think she sails to NYC and changes the name etc on ropute and in port, returning Non british Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnpugwash Posted November 10, 2011 #20 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think she sails to NYC and changes the name etc on ropute and in port, returning Non british You could be correct but my understanding is that she is British registered until Hamburg and the name change will take place during the upcoming refit. As a matter of interest, does the re-flagging not take place officially until the name is changed or not? I would have thought that it is re-flagged when the registration documents are signed and the legal process is complete, the name on the ship just being window dressing or that could be the crucial element. Doesn't matter of course, que sera, sera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick&Simon Posted November 10, 2011 #21 Share Posted November 10, 2011 According to the Bermuda Ships Registry, the QM2 actually changes on 1st December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray66 Posted November 10, 2011 #22 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I've read that the QM2 date is 1st December which as you say is during the re-fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwestie Posted November 10, 2011 Author #23 Share Posted November 10, 2011 You could be correct but my understanding is that she is British registered until Hamburg and the name change will take place during the upcoming refit. As a matter of interest, does the re-flagging not take place officially until the name is changed or not? I would have thought that it is re-flagged when the registration documents are signed and the legal process is complete, the name on the ship just being window dressing or that could be the crucial element. Doesn't matter of course, que sera, sera. I think it is just the paint job, it says end of November now. This was a message from Cunard sent via Facebook, and can I find it now, no, I will look again later, check it out on your return next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkpon Posted November 10, 2011 #24 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Just got off QM2 today and was told the paint job would be done during her refit. Managed to get some nice photos in Maderia with the going to be much missed 'Southampton'. If you want to get some photos on her return to Southampton on the 24th, don't forget the QM2 sails for Hamburg at noon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stowaway2k Posted November 10, 2011 #25 Share Posted November 10, 2011 will the letters RMS or MV make any difference in the long run Probably not... afterall QE2 was never (officially) RMS. Although QE2 was frequently refered to as RMS; in the press, on souvenirs and sometimes onboard such as on stationery, the fact is that Cunard never pursued the RMS designation for QE2 (even when she was still "job number 736" and when she was supposed to be just "QE") and the Royal Mail never granted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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