Last TA for QM2 as British registered 10th Nov

[southwestie]

November 10th see,s QM2 sail to New york , British registered for the last time

 

Bon Voyage, I will still sail on her what ever happens:)

[bobby1119]

November 10th see,s QM2 sail to New york , British registered for the last time

 

Bon Voyage, I will still sail on her what ever happens:)

 

I am sailing January 3rd and was hoping that the re-flagging didn't happen until after the world cruise. While the re-flagging was inevitable in terms of the company's obligation to turn the highest profits possible, I lament the loss of the British registry, especially for the line's flagship, and all that goes with it. I always thought there was something special about RMS rather than MV.

 

Bobby

[edgeoftheworld]

souvenirs!

 

are you after one of those floaty-ring things to stick on the wall at home? :D

[Salacia]

Rob, don't forget to mail postcards from the ship...ask for the ship's postmark. Send a few to yourself too ;)

 

A bitter-sweet voyage - but nonetheless, Bon Voyage! Cheers, -Salacia

[southwestie]

Sadly I wont be on this one, we have a months trip to Australia not far away.

 

I would love a ring, maybe I shall ask someone one board to get me one, although as I understand they are to painted over

[missfrankiecat]

I'll be there. Very sad about the change.

[southwestie]

I'll be there. Very sad about the change.

 

 

Bon Voyage, have a wonderful time

[missfrankiecat]

Bon Voyage, have a wonderful time

 

Thank you. I surely will. Hope the doggies are well!

[Whitemarsh]

I always thought there was something special about RMS rather than MV.

 

Bobby

 

Yes, so did I. That is a big loss.

[southwestie]

I am sailing January 3rd and was hoping that the re-flagging didn't happen until after the world cruise. While the re-flagging was inevitable in terms of the company's obligation to turn the highest profits possible, I lament the loss of the British registry, especially for the line's flagship, and all that goes with it. I always thought there was something special about RMS rather than MV.

 

Bobby

 

I agree it is sad, but will the letters RMS or MV make any difference in the long run

[bobby1119]

I agree it is sad, but will the letters RMS or MV make any difference in the long run

 

It has the same feel as a demotion.

[guernseyguy]

I agree it is sad, but will the letters RMS or MV make any difference in the long run

Only if "tradition" or "heritage" is part of your proposition....

[southwestie]

I at one time would have said yes it was important to me, now as I get older and as I see so much change in the world I dont know that I am so worried, I love Cunard, QM2 and QE and QV, I dont see that what they offer to me or any other passenger will change just because they are re registering the ships.

 

When I board the ship it will the same, in fact after the refit of QM2 it will I think be better, so better beds, carpets, etc will outshine the RMS

[Salacia]

I agree it is sad, but will the letters RMS or MV make any difference in the long run

 

What? Was that the sound of Samuel Cunard turning over in his grave?:eek:

 

I guess only time will tell if it makes any difference or not, but in the meantime, my sympathy goes out to the staff of Cunard ships who were most immediately effected by this sudden change of registry. What a shame that the big rush to "offer weddings at sea" couldn't have been better handled. -S

[southwestie]

What? Was that the sound of Samuel Cunard turning over in his grave?:eek:

 

I guess only time will tell if it makes any difference or not, but in the meantime, my sympathy goes out to the staff of Cunard ships who were most immediately effected by this sudden change of registry. What a shame that the big rush to "offer weddings at sea" couldn't have been better handled. -S

 

 

I agree with you, but what difference will it make to passengers who sail in the future, what will they find different

[Salacia]

I agree with you, but what difference will it make to passengers who sail in the future, what will they find different

 

Rob, that is the 50 Million Dollar question!

 

But I think all (well, most of us anyway) are hoping for the best.

Cheers, -S.

[Nick&Simon]

So I guess this will be the last voyage of a British Registered Cunard vessel. Somehow I don't think I will get back to my room to find a certificate or souvenir on the bed.

[Salacia]

I don't think the 10November Crossing is the last voyage QM2 voyage under British Registry, but please correct me if I am mistaken. Thanks. -S.

[southwestie]

I think she sails to NYC and changes the name etc on ropute and in port, returning Non british

[capnpugwash]

I think she sails to NYC and changes the name etc on ropute and in port, returning Non british

 

You could be correct but my understanding is that she is British registered until Hamburg and the name change will take place during the upcoming refit. As a matter of interest, does the re-flagging not take place officially until the name is changed or not? I would have thought that it is re-flagged when the registration documents are signed and the legal process is complete, the name on the ship just being window dressing or that could be the crucial element. Doesn't matter of course, que sera, sera.

[Nick&Simon]

According to the Bermuda Ships Registry, the QM2 actually changes on 1st December.

[Ray66]

I've read that the QM2 date is 1st December which as you say is during the re-fit.

[southwestie]

You could be correct but my understanding is that she is British registered until Hamburg and the name change will take place during the upcoming refit. As a matter of interest, does the re-flagging not take place officially until the name is changed or not? I would have thought that it is re-flagged when the registration documents are signed and the legal process is complete, the name on the ship just being window dressing or that could be the crucial element. Doesn't matter of course, que sera, sera.

 

 

I think it is just the paint job, it says end of November now.

 

This was a message from Cunard sent via Facebook, and can I find it now, no, I will look again later, check it out on your return next week

[pkpon]

Just got off QM2 today and was told the paint job would be done during her refit.

 

Managed to get some nice photos in Maderia with the going to be much missed 'Southampton'.

 

If you want to get some photos on her return to Southampton on the 24th, don't forget the QM2 sails for Hamburg at noon.

[stowaway2k]

will the letters RMS or MV make any difference in the long run

 

 

Probably not... afterall QE2 was never (officially) RMS.

 

Although QE2 was frequently refered to as RMS; in the press, on souvenirs and sometimes onboard such as on stationery, the fact is that Cunard never pursued the RMS designation for QE2 (even when she was still "job number 736" and when she was supposed to be just "QE") and the Royal Mail never granted it.