clive and anne Posted June 13, 2014 #6301 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Just found this, http://www.pazzoperilmare.it/blog/2014/06/13/genova-come-verra-smantellata-concordia/ Over to our knowing ones to tell us whether it is feasible or a load of rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisrp Posted June 13, 2014 #6302 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I notice that Conquest has repositioned 90 degrees from its normal position, what would be the purpose of that please. Probably to install S3 without interfering with port traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted June 13, 2014 #6303 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Clive .... Sounds like a lot of moving around for the ship to be cut up in Genoa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Engineer Posted June 13, 2014 #6304 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Probably to install S3 without interfering with port traffic. S3 is floating out a bit off the port side in the cam view. I wonder if they are going to hook the crane onto it today. It's getting late there and I don't think they have ever made a lift after dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Engineer Posted June 13, 2014 #6305 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Clive .... Sounds like a lot of moving around for the ship to be cut up in Genoa. And they also have to remove the sponsons and use air bags to float the ship into the dry dock for the final stage because it would be too wide with the sponsons attached. That is like a complete salvage project all by itself. I'm sure if the whole world was not watching Costa would much rather have had the ship winched up on the beach at Alang and turned 1000 guys in sandals and shorts loose on it with cutting torches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted June 13, 2014 #6306 Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) That makes sense! I didn't realize they only update the site once a week.Thanks :rolleyes: The weekly report I mentioned is the one Giglio website publishes. The parbuckle site varies on how often we get updates. As you'll see in this link S15 shows in green now and S4 shows in yellow tho as I type this I believe a tweet has said it's completed. (They do seem to be noting info a little quicker now.) http://www.theparbucklingproject.com/ Edited June 13, 2014 by SomeBeach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted June 14, 2014 #6307 Share Posted June 14, 2014 On a close up camera view earlier i noticed that they have cut away the wind deflector/balcony front that is above the Bridge on the Starboard side of the ship. Anyone have any idea why this might have been done? is it possible they are removing the Bridge prior to re float ? though no idea why they would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken711 Posted June 15, 2014 #6308 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Weekly report: http://www.giglionews.it/wp-content/uploads/rel_sett_osservatorio150614.pdf S3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken711 Posted June 15, 2014 #6309 Share Posted June 15, 2014 From the Parbucking website, the new date for the DECISION (we hope) is June 26. The Italian Council of Ministers, upon proposal from the Commissioner for the Concordia Emergency, has identified June 26th (instead of June 16th as previously decided) as the date for the conclusion of the decision-making meeting of the "Conferenza dei Servizi", the committee composed of representatives of all competent authorities that will evaluate projects for the transportation of the Concordia wreck to an appropriate port for dismantling. In the meantine at Giglio Island over 370 technicians are working 24/7 to complete the sponsons installation phase. Currently 12 sponsons have been positioned on the starboard side of the Concordia; 3 more are left to install on this side and 4 on the port side to reach the total of 30 needed for the refloating phase. In parallel to engineering operations, environmental monitoring is also in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telken22 Posted June 16, 2014 #6310 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Photo I hadn't seen before showing the bumpers being welded in place. Great pic, thanks for sharing. What are the bumpers being welded to? Surely more than just the floors of the cabins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted June 16, 2014 #6311 Share Posted June 16, 2014 On a close up camera view earlier i noticed that they have cut away the wind deflector/balcony front that is above the Bridge on the Starboard side of the ship. Anyone have any idea why this might have been done? is it possible they are removing the Bridge prior to re float ? though no idea why they would do that. Sidari, is it possible they were cut away to make for easier placement of the sponsons that will go in that area? Only thing I can come up with. From the parbuckle website, posted 2 hrs ago: Parbuckling Project @InfoParbuckling Global project completion 90.5% #parbuckling Still think the project will be completed with no place to take the ship. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken711 Posted June 16, 2014 #6312 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Great pic, thanks for sharing. What are the bumpers being welded to? Surely more than just the floors of the cabins? Looks like beams run inside to tie-in with some substantial internal frame structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telken22 Posted June 17, 2014 #6313 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Sidari, is it possible they were cut away to make for easier placement of the sponsons that will go in that area? Only thing I can come up with. From the parbuckle website, posted 2 hrs ago: Parbuckling Project @InfoParbuckling Global project completion 90.5% #parbuckling Still think the project will be completed with no place to take the ship. ;) I can't see the thing you are talking about? All I have noticed is the bridge wings have been cut away. Looks like beams run inside to tie-in with some substantial internal frame structure. I'd love to see piccies of that but doubt there is any for public viewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken711 Posted June 17, 2014 #6314 Share Posted June 17, 2014 From Giglio News: BETWEEN 13 JULY AND TRANSFER OF CONCORDIA August 9 The Concordia could leave the island of Giglio in the direction of Genoa between 13 July and 8 August, based on statistics compiled by ISPRA in fact this is the period in which there is less likely to have significant waves higher than two meters, the maximum value specified by the project to transfer the Coast. The 'window' for the last voyage of the ship wrecked two and half years ago at Giglio has been suggested today during the Services Conference which was held in Rome, and after the resolution of the CDM on 13 June, will take a final decision on the port of disposal by 26 June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive and anne Posted June 17, 2014 #6315 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I notice that Green Salina has made a rare appearance on the webcam. Although she has rarely left the area she normally keeps out of shot. Do I remember correctly that Green Salina acts as the "environment" ship. She is tied up to Conquest so I wonder if there is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisrp Posted June 17, 2014 #6316 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) I can't see the thing you are talking about? All I have noticed is the bridge wings have been cut away. Look for any images where the front of the ship is seen, the deck right above the bridge. The starboard third of the railing on that deck is missing. In the front of the ship the railing is actually a sort of wind shield. The top arrows are pointing to the wind shield/railing on deck 10 for reference and the lower ones on deck 9 showing that it is missing on that deck. The bridge is deck 8 right underneath. On this picture captured from the Circolo Nautico webcam it can be seen that the entire wind shield in this deck is now gone, not just the starboard portion. Edited June 17, 2014 by luisrp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightman1984 Posted June 17, 2014 #6317 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Great pic, thanks for sharing. What are the bumpers being welded to? Surely more than just the floors of the cabins? Actually no. I found the weekly report from back in March that included a picture - the bumpers are just welded to the floors of the cabins, & the cabins were removed. http://www.giglionews.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/rel_sett_osservatorio020314.pdf On a close up camera view earlier i noticed that they have cut away the wind deflector/balcony front that is above the Bridge on the Starboard side of the ship. Anyone have any idea why this might have been done? is it possible they are removing the Bridge prior to re float ? though no idea why they would do that. An update on the parbuckling project a couple weeks back had a rendering of the bow of the ship with the 1st and 2nd sponsons attached and there was a cable system with several anchor points above the bridge. My guess is it's just for balancing the tops of the sponsons since they're to be pinned to the Blister tank and won't have anchor points at the tops of them. http://www.theparbucklingproject.com./article/74/_Installation_of_sponson_S7_has_been_completed,_the_sixth_of_15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted June 17, 2014 #6318 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Lightman .... Thanks for the link ... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive and anne Posted June 18, 2014 #6319 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Sponsons S! & S2 have arrived. These should be interesting as we should have the best view of the fitting process as they are at the bow end and with Conquest having turned 90 degrees a few days ago we can see whats going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightman1984 Posted June 18, 2014 #6320 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) The workers are getting good at this Sponson process. They had S2 off the barge at 8AM, in the water, linked to the blister, ballasted, and off the crane by 3pm. NEXT! edit - I thought Mario B had these 2 but it looks like it was Red Wolf Edited June 18, 2014 by lightman1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive and anne Posted June 18, 2014 #6321 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I think you were right Lighthouse. Mario B brought the two sponsons down and when S2 had been lifted Red Wolf and Voe Earl took S1 for a paddle down the coast, then Voe Earl broke away and went back to CC. Doesn't the P!,P2,P14,P15,S1,S2,S14 & S15 have a different method of fixing than the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightman1984 Posted June 18, 2014 #6322 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I believe P/S1 & P/S2 are pinned onto the blister tank - appears they have no strand jacks on them either. 14 and 15 would have to be different; it appears S14 and S15 have inboard strand jacks to chains under CC that were welded to the hull last year while she was on her side. I'm not sure how P14 and P15 come into play. S14 is also higher than S15 so that one seems like it will need adjusted eventually. perhaps they couldn't sink it the whole way due to the sea bed. Edited June 18, 2014 by lightman1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Engineer Posted June 18, 2014 #6323 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Red Wolf must have returned the barge with S1 to Mario B. Red Wolf is now tied up to the Conquest. Also, they must be expecting a storm. Mario B and Voe Earl have moved all the way to the lee side of Elba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Engineer Posted June 19, 2014 #6324 Share Posted June 19, 2014 This morning Voe Earl has returned to the wreck site and Mario B is doing laps off the coast of Elba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisrp Posted June 19, 2014 #6325 Share Posted June 19, 2014 This morning Voe Earl has returned to the wreck site and Mario B is doing laps off the coast of Elba. What is the point of keeping these things doing loops for days on end? Mario B spent probably 3 days doing that with S1 and S2 prior to delivering S2 and now it is back to doing this. Why not moor at some place nearby while the site is ready for the next sponson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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