Rare Host CMLA Posted May 19, 2005 #101 Share Posted May 19, 2005 "....and life is not about just you."I was just thinking this exact same thing! Although not as profoundly as some of you. :o I was thinking that when I'm on a cruise I'm not the only one on vacation. There are 2000 other people on the ship and they're expecting things from their vacation too. My vacation isn't more important than theirs. In a cruise ship setting you have to know that the cruise line is trying to satisfy everyone's different expectations and sometimes it's not perfect. It's not just about me and my vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanB Posted May 19, 2005 #102 Share Posted May 19, 2005 I always thought crying children upset their parents much more than they upset others - why let it bother you, you don't need to act on it. Just be glad they belong to some else! Tune them out like you do the Muzak in elevators. Muzak is intended to be unobtrusive musical background filler, whereas a screaming child five feet away is neither unobtrusive nor in the background. There is no comparison between the two. A better comparative example would be an air-raid siren. Also, I take little comfort in the fact that the screamers belong to someone else when the "someone else" is utterly oblivious to the effect his/her child is having on everyone within earshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts01854 Posted May 19, 2005 #103 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Muzak is intended to be unobtrusive musical background filler, whereas a screaming child five feet away is neither unobtrusive nor in the background.There is no comparison between the two. A better comparative example would be an air-raid siren. Also, I take little comfort in the fact that the screamers belong to someone else when the "someone else" is utterly oblivious to the effect his/her child is having on everyone within earshot. Children belong on cruises just as much as you, If people don't like it cruise a "No Kids" line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsBoo Posted May 19, 2005 #104 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Please check the cabin number before you start knocking - especially when people might be asleep (note Do Not Disturb sign on door). Some woman wouldn't give up knocking so I got up to answer the door & broke my toe on the way there on the morning of first port of call:mad: :mad: :mad:, ruined the entire rest of the cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumeroll Posted May 19, 2005 #105 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Children belong on cruises just as much as you, If people don't like it cruise a "No Kids" line. Please post your cruise bookings so I can avoid the attitude and your children which I can only assume from your postings must be just "Charming". Thanks for the assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DroopySails Posted May 19, 2005 #106 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Children belong on cruises just as much as you, If people don't like it cruise a "No Kids" line. Given that the poster to whom you are responding was talking about screaming children whose parents are oblivious, not about children in general, your post seems a little overwrought. One could just as easily say, "Loud, sloppy drunks belong on a cruise as much as you; if you don't like it, cruise an alcohol-free cruise!" If I'm not mistaken, no one here has complained about having kids on a cruise; they're remarking on the children who are unsupervised and badly behaved and the parents who don't respect people around them...and are by extension teaching their kids not to respect others. If you're doing your job as a parent and you're not letting your children scream in the dining room, run up and down the halls or otherwise bug other people, why so defensive? This is only about having a little regard for others' peace, safety and enjoyment. Why is that an unreasonable request? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professor Posted May 20, 2005 #107 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Children belong on cruises just as much as you, If people don't like it cruise a "No Kids" line. The problem seems not to be "children" as a category, but rather, the parents who abdicate their parental responsibilies by allowing the children for whom they are responsible to run amuck. On a cruise ship, thousands of people are confined in relatively small spaces, making it doubly important that adults (and the children they supervise) contribute to a civilized and harmonious atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregandamy Posted May 20, 2005 #108 Share Posted May 20, 2005 If I'm not mistaken, no one here has complained about having kids on a cruise... Not true, Dolphins would rather there be no kids on her cruises, look at her post history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinsel57 Posted May 20, 2005 #109 Share Posted May 20, 2005 That may be so, however, this thread is entitled : Some Suggestions for Polite Crusing - in the Norwegian Cruise Line Which means generally speaking, not specific to one ship. And in that case, I believe the professor has hit the nail on the head. The general public would prefer if adults and kids be considerate, that's all. Amazing to me that people feel so threatened by this thread and come unglued over it. The stress is making me NEED a cruise to relax!~~ :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenie Posted May 20, 2005 #110 Share Posted May 20, 2005 That may be so, however, this thread is entitled : Some Suggestions for Polite Crusing - in the Norwegian Cruise Line Which means generally speaking, not specific to one ship. And in that case, I believe the professor has hit the nail on the head. The general public would prefer if adults and kids be considerate, that's all. Amazing to me that people feel so threatened by this thread and come unglued over it. The stress is making me NEED a cruise to relax!~~ :) That's as good a reason as any, I'm with you Tinsel! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host CMLA Posted May 20, 2005 #111 Share Posted May 20, 2005 If you'd like to debate whether or not kids should be on cruises, please do it on the appropriate forum: Family Cruising Forum This thread is an informative discussion about different things people can do to make the cruising experience more enjoyable. If this thread continues to be a debate about kids, I'm sorry to say that it will be closed. Let's not get to that point, OK? Thanks for your cooperation. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanB Posted May 20, 2005 #112 Share Posted May 20, 2005 If you'd like to debate whether or not kids should be on cruises, please do it on the appropriate forum Cecilia, dear -- this is not a debate about whether kids should be on cruises. The Thread is titled "Some Suggestions for Polite Crusing" and, prominent among those suggestions is that kids, who are always welcome on cruises, should behave in a way that constitutes "Polite Cruising." Pay attention to context as well as content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeyer418 Posted May 20, 2005 #113 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Cecilia, dear -- this is not a debate about whether kids should be on cruises.The Thread is titled "Some Suggestions for Polite Crusing" and, prominent among those suggestions is that kids, who are always welcome on cruises, should behave in a way that constitutes "Polite Cruising." Pay attention to context as well as content. That's exactly the point. It should not be about children cruising. Personally I get enjoyment about seeing kids on cruises...since I don't have to change them at least. Please don't ask me to change your kid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphins Posted May 20, 2005 #114 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Not true, Dolphins would rather there be no kids on her cruises, look at her post history. Dolphins has no objection to pre-school children being on any cruise. I object to school age children being on a cruise when they should be in school. Finally, Dolphins is a he, not a she. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host CMLA Posted May 20, 2005 #115 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Cecilia, dear -- this is not a debate about whether kids should be on cruises.The Thread is titled "Some Suggestions for Polite Crusing" and, prominent among those suggestions is that kids, who are always welcome on cruises, should behave in a way that constitutes "Polite Cruising." Pay attention to context as well as content. Joan, dear...per the board guidelines I've asked that the discussion stay focused on the original topic and not be a debate about kids on cruises. I have paid attention to the context as well as the content which is what lead me to ask that everyone stop debating kids on cruising. Please go back and read for yourself and you will see this. So once again, I'm asking for the topic to not focus on kids and cruising. There is a forum where that specific discussion is more appropriate. I can direct you there if you'd like me to. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregandamy Posted May 20, 2005 #116 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Finally, Dolphins is a he, not a she. I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House_Atreides Posted May 20, 2005 #117 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Again, good manners, in public (like on these boards!) or at home with your friends and family, or wherever you are......you will be welcomed......I have to agree with Ceclia on this one folks; gone way off topic with the kids........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claudie Posted May 20, 2005 #118 Share Posted May 20, 2005 I thought of something else that bothered me. When in the spa please respect the signs that say this is a quiet zone. Some of us are in there to relax and sort of escape from the crowd. Carry on conversations while next to the person not from across the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenie Posted May 20, 2005 #119 Share Posted May 20, 2005 I thought of something else that bothered me. When in the spa please respect the signs that say this is a quiet zone. Some of us are in there to relax and sort of escape from the crowd. Carry on conversations while next to the person not from across the room. I agree ... when we were in there one afternoon, there were 2 people in one of the Jacuzzis ... they must have yakked for over a half an hour in pretty loud voices (sitting across from each other and obviously didn't know each other). Another thing for the spa, might already have been said, but bears repeating: do not "save" loungechairs! There is room for only around 8 chairs and when we were there always anywhere from 1 to 3 of them had the requisite "towel & a book" on them and no one in sight. In the pool or anywhere in sight. We dragged up 2 little "regular" chairs but it wasn't real comfy. One of the women next to one of the empty chairs eventually said to us "I haven't seen anyone here at all and I've been here about 45 minutes." So we took it over, were there 30-45 minutes and the "owner" never showed. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE. That is SO selfish and rude! EIGHT chairs and you have to try and "reserve" one just for yourself in case you decide to drop by at some point?? :mad: Needed to vent about that. A true pet peeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts01854 Posted May 20, 2005 #120 Share Posted May 20, 2005 New Rule: If people leave chairs unattended for 10 minutes, throw there stuff overboard.:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoreguy Posted May 20, 2005 #121 Share Posted May 20, 2005 New Rule: If people leave chairs unattended for 10 minutes, throw there stuff overboard.:p Well that's not very polite :eek: But I like the idea perhaps we could be polite and give them 20 minutes :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alabama_cruisin Posted May 20, 2005 #122 Share Posted May 20, 2005 What a wonderful thread !! (but let's not have negativity) Just found this thread and (not to be off subject or anything) wanted to point out that the stuff we're mentioning (saving seats, leaving children unattended, loud drunks ...) is all common courtesy. When is it appropriate to leave your child unattended? Never. They should always be attended to (even at Chucky Cheese) When should they go around loud and drunk? Never. (even at Chucky Cheese) When should they save seats? Never.(well, I don't mind if they save seats at Chucky Cheese) The people who do these things are just plain rude. But the problem is that these same people would probably not be on this web site. If they were on this web site, they would never read this thread, and if they did read this thread they would say to themselves "Boy, I'm glad I'm not like that!!" I have learned that the hardest people to tolerate are inconsiderate people. I'm 6'6", and weigh 280 pounds, and it would be so much fun to just squash them all. I think if I did that, though, I might be considered inconsiderate, also. Oh well. How bout if I just "bump" them overboard (can an accident be considered inconsiderate ?):) Or how bout dropping them off somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahorse Posted May 20, 2005 #123 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Ya know, I have been reading a lot lately about pax. "falling" overboard. Have you been on any of "these" cruises:D Would it be inconsiderate if I got drunk......but I was quiet:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts01854 Posted May 20, 2005 #124 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Ya know, I have been reading a lot lately about pax. "falling" overboard. Have you been on any of "these" cruises:D Would it be inconsiderate if I got drunk......but I was quiet:o Only if you hogged a hammock or lounge chair :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenie Posted May 20, 2005 #125 Share Posted May 20, 2005 ... and it would be so much fun to just squash them all. LOL! And it might even be fun to watch! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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