Holders3 Posted November 21, 2012 #26 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Yes they are winnable......if you happen to be the player when it's time for the machine to pay out. Small amount of skill, large amount of being the lucky one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarnivalPlatCruiser Posted November 21, 2012 #27 Share Posted November 21, 2012 lol is it were easy, and everyone won, they wouldnt be able to give out 1000 dollars or an 699 dollar Ipad on your 1 dollar try... The machine is there to MAKE money, not loose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almost Packed Posted November 22, 2012 #28 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I figure my odds are better at winning with the Vault than winning on a slot machine. There are usually several winners throughout the cruise. Rarely do I hear of winners on the ship with the slots lol...so I'll play my Hold Em and the vault lol. I think my chances/odds are better that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdy Posted November 22, 2012 #29 Share Posted November 22, 2012 My nephew won a pair of Beats on the Fascination in Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted November 22, 2012 #30 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I figure my odds are better at winning with the Vault than winning on a slot machine. There are usually several winners throughout the cruise. Rarely do I hear of winners on the ship with the slots lol...so I'll play my Hold Em and the vault lol. I think my chances/odds are better that way. Probably not. This is NOT a game of skill, but rather a game of CHANCE. As such, it is contolled by a random number generator, much like a slot machine. Carnival will set the expected payout return, say 80%. The computer will go through millions of random outcomes but in the long run for every $10,000 put in, only $8,000 will be returned. Do some people "win?" Sure, but most do not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misguidedangel Posted November 22, 2012 #31 Share Posted November 22, 2012 The game is winable! It happened on the sailing (3rd sailing out of Galveston) last year. Three Ipads+500 were won and a lot of the other cash prizes were won too... It takes skill..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizinman Posted November 22, 2012 #32 Share Posted November 22, 2012 The game is winable! It happened on the sailing (3rd sailing out of Galveston) last year. Three Ipads+500 were won and a lot of the other cash prizes were won too... It takes skill..... OP states ,Well on the second to last day someone finally got the key to pass thru the window. To the surprise of the entire crowd it didn't have the strength to unseat the prize. A casino employee was called, and he said Sorry it has to fall. A manager was called and said the same. Everyone complained that this is a game of skill to control the mechanical arm not a game of faith to hope that the prize is not tied so tight that the game is UNwinable. But to no avail, there was NO pay out. Beware! Looks to be the skill factor worked but the product failed to drop ?:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E6bflyer Posted November 22, 2012 #33 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I am on Magic right now and I can assure you it is equal parts luck and skill. My daughter had it pass through in the kids arcade (she had several witnesses) and the prize didn't drop. She complained and was told that they hear the same thing all the time and that there is nothing they can do. I chalked that one up to a valuable life lesson. Someone posted a while back that they knew someone who sold these types of machines and they are on a scheduled payout, much like slots. Still fun to play, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veryhotred Posted November 22, 2012 #34 Share Posted November 22, 2012 ok in January on the Paradise I will be peeking to see if anyone wins ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moobaby214 Posted November 22, 2012 #35 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Do a google search for the vaults owners manual. It tells you exactly how to set up the wins. Essentially, you set up an in amount (i.e. $1000) for it to pay out. The game will help with your skill part when it is time for a winner. Btw, its been suggested that casino staff removes items to make it appear a win has happened. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL2LAS Posted November 22, 2012 #36 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Saw a few people win on the Imagination over Halloween. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted November 22, 2012 #37 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It takes skill..... And that is precisely what they want you to think! It's a great psychological ploy. As I said before, it may look like a game of skill, but is purely chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetcurves Posted November 22, 2012 #38 Share Posted November 22, 2012 The slots do pay...I won over $200 on 2 cent slots on Freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campdaan Posted November 22, 2012 #39 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It's a re-branded game called SEGA KEY MASTER. ( you can google it ) It has programmable payout settings. The Sega website says: THE KEY TO HIGH EARNINGS... Key Master will test your player’s skills as they try to unlock prizes by putting the key in “just” the right spot! Easy to understand and fun to play! It’s the perfect prize vending game for all ages! Some skill is required, but it is built to make money for it's owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcraig Posted November 22, 2012 #40 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Ofcourse it's rigged but also requires skill at the right time. The owner of the machine can program it for every 20 to 500 dollars in put to be winnable if you have the skill at the right timing to line it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travler27 Posted November 22, 2012 #41 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Cash Vault, just like a slot machine, is a game of chance and not a game of skill. It gives the appearance of a game of skill in order to lure the unsuspecting into believing they have some control over the outcome. They do not. Pure luck. If it was a game of skill, a person with the appropriate skill, would simply clean out the entire machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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