18 year old senior in teen club?

[Name Of The Game]

On Survivor, there's a mother on the show now with her 20 year old daughter. The mother said sometimes the daughter acts like she's 30 and other times she acts like she's 10.

[Domino D]

You know, they gotta' draw the line somewhere. And I wonder how many folks would be in favor of 18 year olds in the teen club if some 18 year old boy (or girl) was caught taking advantage of some 16 year girl (or boy).

 

Legally, you're a minor the day before your 18th birthday and an adult the next day.

 

I agree. Also some don't graduate until 19. With 15 year olds there, any 19 year old boy having sex with a girl that age could be charged with statutory rape. And yes, it does happen.

 

I agree that you have to draw a line, but I think it is important that people remember when you are on a cruise ship you are NOT under United States law. You are under the very murky world of Maritime law, which in many instances looks to the where a ship is registered. Carnival ships are (as far as I know) registered in Panama. In Panama the legal age for consent is 12 for girls and 14 for boys. I AM NOT AGREEING WITH THIS, but simply think people need to remain always aware of the fact that you can not apply any US legal standard to a cruise ship outside of US waters.

 

Isn't the problem really that Carnival does not evenly enforce their own policies?

 

Why should it matter how many people are on the cruise? or Who the counselor is?

 

Can you wear shorts in the main dining room? Do men need suit coats on formal night? Do you really have to wait before ordering a second drink on the cheers program? etc.

 

We might not always like the answer, but it would be easier for people to set their expectations if Carnival would simply enforce the rules equally.

[Martini Mom]

We are taking a family cruise to celebrate my son's 18th birthday in December. He'll turn 18 during the cruise. He plans on hanging out with us and his 15 yr old brother as well as maybe meeting some new friends. He didn't like the kids club when he was 12, so I doubt he'd like it now. That said, it's nice to know that he can participate a little if they're dancing or doing something he's interested in. It's nice to have options for this difficult age. :)

[snowskier]

18-20 yeast olds can do everything on board that a non drinking adult does.

 

I agree. I don't understand this 18 - 20 gap. Life isn't just about drinking. Since I don't drink, I guess I am in the 18 - 65 gap.

[ASchaff]

When I was 18, even with high school ID I was not allowed into the teen clubs. That was on the Glory in 2007.

[Martini Mom]

The kids clubs, no matter the age group, are usually handled at the discretion of that crew. I remember my son being on the verge of an age group (his birthday was the following week) and we had to wait to see if they'd let him into the older group.

 

I'm going with the idea that he might not get in. If he does, it'll be a bonus. :)

[Manatee Mom]

Question? So those of you who believe the day a child turns 18 they should no longer be hanging around anyone younger...So in your states do they have a separate high school that your kids transfer to on their 18th birthday till they graduate? Or did you just make them drop out because they can't be around anyone younger because of what ifs? And if that's the case then how can you consider that 18 year old responsible if they can't be trusted around someone a day younger than them?

 

Please help me out here I'd love to know where your from and how they do it there

[CheckersMidwest]

Love this Manatee mom !

 

For my daughter, the kids club is about a place to meet.....a congregation place. She does participate in the 3 on 3 basketball, pizza party, etc.

 

She'll turn 18 on the ship right after graduation. She is hoping she can go again - too young for the bars (she doesn't drink anyway), doesn't want to blow a bunch of money in the casino, and needs a 'place'. Once she is in college, and her interests and maturity change (she is extremely responsible), she'll move onto something/somewhere else I'm sure. But for now, she is use to hanging out with high school kids.

 

Interesting about 18 yr olds & 15 yr olds mixing. In a lot of schools (ours included) you have freshman through seniors in clubs, sports teams, and even in some classes. A mix of boys & girls. They ride the same bus to track meets, basketball games, etc.

 

Yes, things happen, but not always. Those of you who are afraid for 18 yr olds and younger to be in the same place must worry about everything.

 

The idea of the club is to give kids a place to go. That's why they split them up ....little kids....middle school....high school. If my child has not yet attended college , I still consider them a high school one.

[jma624]

The idea of the club is to give kids a place to go. That's why they split them up ....little kids....middle school....high school. If my child has not yet attended college , I still consider them a high school one.

 

 

The reason for the kids clubs, from the cruise lines' perspective, is to give kids a plact to go so their parents are free to spend $ in the bars and casinos. This is the reason there is so little attention spent on the 18-20 yo group - they dont spend alot of $ on board, but they also dont require parental supervision.

[fuddrules]

Question? So those of you who believe the day a child turns 18 they should no longer be hanging around anyone younger...So in your states do they have a separate high school that your kids transfer to on their 18th birthday till they graduate? Or did you just make them drop out because they can't be around anyone younger because of what ifs? And if that's the case then how can you consider that 18 year old responsible if they can't be trusted around someone a day younger than them?

 

Please help me out here I'd love to know where your from and how they do it there

 

Manatee Mom - I didn't read this whole thread but I'm guessing it was a grand total of 1 poster causing this fuss. Pay no attention to the "fun" one, he/she is just trying to ruffle feathers.

 

You're in good company with what you believe.

[familycruzinnewbie]

Our first cruise DD just turned 12 and DS wasn't quite 10. DS didn't like being in with the 9-11 year olds as they were often mixed with the 6-8 year olds and activities were crafts and such. Our 2nd cruise he wasn't quite 12 but I had requested him in Circle C, which was no problem. A few days in, 14 year old DD said she was joining O2. A bunch or the circle C kids had said that so the councillor said that those 14 could move up but 13 year olds had to stay in Circle C. It ended up working out better for DS with DD moved up. There was a girl that my daughter said was 18, who actually turned 19 on the cruise that was allowed in. But most of the kids that went were around the 15 year old end.